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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#241


Quite an exciting trailer/map!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 21 2013 06:47 GMT
#242
Relevant.

altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 06:49:01
August 25 2013 06:47 GMT
#243
Symthic interview with Daniel Matros (z1ntho/DICE assistant producer) and a list of all confirmed weapons, attachments and vehicle perks in BF4:

Symthic Thread
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 25 2013 09:52 GMT
#244
• PC specs are similar to the specs of BF3. No official specs list has been released.


Whoop
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 25 2013 10:06 GMT
#245
That's lame D: I thought they'd improve the graphics
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plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
August 25 2013 10:38 GMT
#246
You just got maxed out in all classes and bought all DLC for BF3? How bad it´s obsolete now and you have to start all over again with BF4, wich has the same gameplay, the same engine, but "new maps" and new skins.

Thats how EA makes money :D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 10:51:20
August 25 2013 10:50 GMT
#247
On August 25 2013 19:38 plgElwood wrote:
You just got maxed out in all classes and bought all DLC for BF3? How bad it´s obsolete now and you have to start all over again with BF4, wich has the same gameplay, the same engine, but "new maps" and new skins.

Thats how EA makes money :D


Different engine.
New maps
New weapons, attachments
new features on maps
classes are rearranged
Commander mode
VOIP in-game
&more

Can you shut the fuck up?
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 25 2013 13:02 GMT
#248
On August 25 2013 19:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 19:38 plgElwood wrote:
You just got maxed out in all classes and bought all DLC for BF3? How bad it´s obsolete now and you have to start all over again with BF4, wich has the same gameplay, the same engine, but "new maps" and new skins.

Thats how EA makes money :D


Different engine.
New maps
New weapons, attachments
new features on maps
classes are rearranged
Commander mode
VOIP in-game
&more

Can you shut the fuck up?


You're pretty fucking blind if you can't see that BF is going the way of CoD.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 13:12:14
August 25 2013 13:08 GMT
#249
I'm not saying that it isn't following the suit of most popular items (iPhone, Call of Duty, Samsung Galaxy S, etc.), but he's clearly downplaying the adjustments and additions made to fit his cynical perception. Yes, it's coming out on a nearly annual basis (what? 2 years about) and yes; its pay-model is identical to Call of Duty - it worked business-wise for Activsion, naturally competitors are going to imitate similar business models. You're not saying anything fucking new, doesn't take Battlefield 4 for anyone here to notice rofl, everyone knew when they announced Premium.

So please, spare this entire topic the obvious; I think everyone sees the similarities, but also enjoy the changes and additions that enhance the game. He didn't even mention Call of Duty, you did and spitefully because you think you're surprising everyone here with this incredible insight of major gaming publisher taking note of other gaming publishers!

The guy above is just lying saying it's the same engine and just new maps, come on... give credit where it is due. I'm not even a huge Battlefield fan.
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Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 13:23:08
August 25 2013 13:21 GMT
#250
are you sure its a different gfx engine? to me it look exactly the same as BF3...
+ i agree on the cash cow thing, EA really trying to milk every possible drop out of this franchise. too bad, i used to play bf1942 and remember when DICE was actually scared of becoming a part of EA for exactly that reason.
rawr
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 13:23:41
August 25 2013 13:23 GMT
#251
The next generation of the engine, Frostbite 2, debuted with the release of Battlefield 3.[1] The creation of Frostbite 2 started the first usage of the Frostbite engine by other EA studios other than DICE. Some notable Frostbite 2 powered games include Need for Speed: The Run,[2] Medal of Honor: Warfighter,[3] and Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel.[4] A new version, Frostbite 3, will debut with Battlefield 4.[5]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frostbite_(game_engine)

It's an improved engine from FB2 to FB3:




What I'm hoping is that there is a higher PC spec demand for BF4.
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Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
August 25 2013 14:37 GMT
#252
I totally get both points here. It's not as if Dice/EA haven't failed to deliver a humongous list of promised features, or that they haven't blatantly lied to the community on numerous occasions. I for one have for a long time been a big sceptic and hater of the modern day of handling games myself. I abolutely hate the fact that products are so quickly abandoned support wise and rarely get the chance to properly mature. Instead its increasingly obvious that we're all getting thrown a bunch of beta-like products that lack in features, optimization or anything of the sort. All of this so that it can be followed up next year by something similarly unfinished.

It's honestly a goddamn travesty, but if they sincerely believe this is how business is best run it's hard to do much about it barring a fundamental change of consumer culture.

However, it is also fairly obvious to me at this point that the main issues, of which there are many, in BF3 just aren't solvable unless you were to massively overhaul a bunch of engine mechanics and coding issues. Basically, halfways making a new game.

There's obviously a stupidly huge amount of fluff and overexaggeration of features that likely won't have anywhere near the effect on gameplay they want people to believe. This is a given, but it gives us the option of hoping they can correct some of the utterly terrible decisions they made in the creation of BF3, and possibly add some of the features they couldn't deliver.

What is then left is for us to be mad and bitch consistently about how their terrible business practice then became an excuse to leave out the majority of the marketed main features for the BF4 early Alpha(BF3), only to then introduce them as new and exciting features once again.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 17:52:37
August 25 2013 17:51 GMT
#253
I was an avid Battlefield gamer before but after Battlefield 2 EA/Dice went in a totally wrong direction. Instead of pursuing a realistic direction they went into more of a arcade shooter, and this was at the same time as Call of Duty series gain huge popularity. So they went in the same direction as they did only in large scale with vehicles.

Other than that its a pure arcade shooter. Its not fun to shoot and do combat in this game since its so simplistic. You spawn, you run and shoot. There is no sitting down to take a breather to reduce weapon sway or carefully aiming to land a perfect shot like in the Arma games. Although Arma games have other issues, they do combat 100x better than what Battlefield 4 offers.
There is also no tactical approach in this game, the maps are too small for that. So everyone is just charging points without ANY thought behind it. Thats not how warfare is guys ..........

This is the first time i am staying clear from a Battlefield game, pretty crazy as ive been playing them since BF1942. Having 5 expansions ready at launch, marketing premium package to play them first, then already having planned a 6th possible expansion giving you only capture the flag mode ? This should not be an insult to you as a gamer, but as a human beeing. Please let this game fail.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
August 25 2013 19:59 GMT
#254
Uh, I don't remember Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam being very realistic at all.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
August 25 2013 20:14 GMT
#255
On August 26 2013 02:51 Avean wrote:
I was an avid Battlefield gamer before but after Battlefield 2 EA/Dice went in a totally wrong direction. Instead of pursuing a realistic direction they went into more of a arcade shooter, and this was at the same time as Call of Duty series gain huge popularity. So they went in the same direction as they did only in large scale with vehicles.

Other than that its a pure arcade shooter. Its not fun to shoot and do combat in this game since its so simplistic. You spawn, you run and shoot. There is no sitting down to take a breather to reduce weapon sway or carefully aiming to land a perfect shot like in the Arma games. Although Arma games have other issues, they do combat 100x better than what Battlefield 4 offers.
There is also no tactical approach in this game, the maps are too small for that. So everyone is just charging points without ANY thought behind it. Thats not how warfare is guys ..........

This is the first time i am staying clear from a Battlefield game, pretty crazy as ive been playing them since BF1942. Having 5 expansions ready at launch, marketing premium package to play them first, then already having planned a 6th possible expansion giving you only capture the flag mode ? This should not be an insult to you as a gamer, but as a human beeing. Please let this game fail.

In warfare, you only live once. Just imagine how fun BF3 or BF4 would be if every player could not respawn, à la counter-strike. It would make for a horribly boring game.

Personally, I find Bad Company 2 by far the best DICE game.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 19 2013 02:41 GMT
#256
Beta starts october 1st and new gameplay video:



Looks way more fun then BF3 imo
When I think of something else, something will go here
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 19 2013 05:54 GMT
#257
Buying a whole new PC just for this! Still gotta figure out the parts, so I'm hoping the beta will be able to tell me what I need.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 19 2013 06:04 GMT
#258
On August 26 2013 05:14 maartendq wrote:
In warfare, you only live once. Just imagine how fun BF3 or BF4 would be if every player could not respawn, à la counter-strike. It would make for a horribly boring game.


I actually think that would be a decent game mode, one bombsite/hostage area.
One side pushes in, one defends etc.

In like, an office map or something? And for Battlefields sake, you could have interactive stuff like rappelling through a window instead of taking a stairs (turtle avoidance), and even have like a chopper spawn outside or on roof or something that you could circle the building with, marking targets and taking shots.

Obviously it wouldnt work for other modes, but I would actually enjoy that
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
September 19 2013 07:40 GMT
#259
On September 19 2013 14:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Buying a whole new PC just for this! Still gotta figure out the parts, so I'm hoping the beta will be able to tell me what I need.

Actually if that PC can run BF3, it can run BF4. It's stated by EA/Dice about this.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 19 2013 08:06 GMT
#260
On September 19 2013 16:40 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 14:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Buying a whole new PC just for this! Still gotta figure out the parts, so I'm hoping the beta will be able to tell me what I need.

Actually if that PC can run BF3, it can run BF4. It's stated by EA/Dice about this.


I no longer have that PC ): I'll be able to ask others about it though who have the beta
and I want near-max settings :D
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