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aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
October 28 2013 10:37 GMT
#1821
On October 28 2013 18:41 Disregard wrote:
Egypt has 2 very secure and prosperous provinces so I don't see why, beyond the threat of weak nomadic tribesmen attacking your flanks from the Red Sea.


I guess you can't .... disregard Egypt ... *puts on sunglasses* ..... Yeaaaaaaaaaah !
Arunu
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands111 Posts
October 28 2013 10:46 GMT
#1822
On October 28 2013 01:51 xDaunt wrote:
The Seleucid campaign is hard, but manageable until you get to the civil war. You need to take out Egypt immediately and make nice with the Greeks and Asia Minor factions. You are going to be at war with everyone east of Media soon enough regardless of what you do, so you have to get ready for it by rapidly expanding your economic base and unlocking tier 3 barracks and tier 4 stables. In fact, don't even bother researching any civil techs until you have those key military techs. Killing off Egypt is easy. Just blitz Cilicia and then go right down into Nabataea once you have killed off Cyprus. Keep going until you take Egypt's last provinces in Libya. After that, make nice with your Arab and African neighbors, and get ready for a long, brutal war in Mesopotamia against everyone. You'll be outnumbered in just about every fight, which is why you need your higher tech.

What I haven't figured out yet is how to deal with the civil war. In my last game, it erupted before I had finished off campaign against the eastern factions, and I was underdeveloped militarily. In my new game, I'm being more deliberate about my expansion so as to maximize my strength before expanding enough to where a civil war becomes possible.



agreed, went for the same setup.
The tier which gives them Hellenic cataphracts doesn't take that long nor does the tier 3 barracks.
You definitely need some strong units early on or you will get stomped by your former satraps and every one who joins them in the fight.
Egypt is pretty weak at the start and can't respond that well yet when you molest Cyprus from the get go.
I have been lucky so far in my campaign not having a civil war yet, seem to be doing ok.

One thing I find a little odd about them is that some of their buildings give eastern influence which makes for another thing to balance in their provinces.

I never build elephants anymore, they can be quite useful but since they get wiped out on just about every auto resolve I gave up on them.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44017 Posts
October 28 2013 10:53 GMT
#1823
On October 27 2013 04:28 xDaunt wrote:
Well, I think my legendary Seleucid campaign is about to go down in flames. I'm only about 70 turns in, and civil war just broke out. Between the Seleucid nobles and all of the other factions that I was already at war with, I'm outnumbered about 5-1 in terms of full stack armies. I'm not sure why the devs would let civil war break out when you are already at war with everyone and just getting by.

You have a lot of learning to do about Roman History :D.
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aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
October 28 2013 11:19 GMT
#1824
On October 28 2013 19:53 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:28 xDaunt wrote:
Well, I think my legendary Seleucid campaign is about to go down in flames. I'm only about 70 turns in, and civil war just broke out. Between the Seleucid nobles and all of the other factions that I was already at war with, I'm outnumbered about 5-1 in terms of full stack armies. I'm not sure why the devs would let civil war break out when you are already at war with everyone and just getting by.

You have a lot of learning to do about Roman History :D.


Roman history doens't count, they closed the doors of the janus temple seven times in 800 years, if you know what I mean.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 12:57:17
October 28 2013 12:54 GMT
#1825
I put an army on the far eastern side of anatolia of thorax pikemen and armored syrian archers. That bottles up the horse lords enough for me to do what I want from my experience.

Speaking of anatolia I think its where you should be warring first instead of egypt. your southern flank can be held by cheap horse skirmishers and you can react to any large eastern incursion pretty fast if your warring in the north.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 28 2013 13:21 GMT
#1826
On October 28 2013 19:53 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:28 xDaunt wrote:
Well, I think my legendary Seleucid campaign is about to go down in flames. I'm only about 70 turns in, and civil war just broke out. Between the Seleucid nobles and all of the other factions that I was already at war with, I'm outnumbered about 5-1 in terms of full stack armies. I'm not sure why the devs would let civil war break out when you are already at war with everyone and just getting by.

You have a lot of learning to do about Roman History :D.

Touche.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 28 2013 13:35 GMT
#1827
On October 28 2013 21:54 Sermokala wrote:
I put an army on the far eastern side of anatolia of thorax pikemen and armored syrian archers. That bottles up the horse lords enough for me to do what I want from my experience.

Speaking of anatolia I think its where you should be warring first instead of egypt. your southern flank can be held by cheap horse skirmishers and you can react to any large eastern incursion pretty fast if your warring in the north.

I thought about conquering Anatolia first, but there's not really much point. If you cut Sardes loose as a satrapy, you will make easy allies of everyone else in Anatolia other than the Armenians. Boom. Your northern border is secure, and your allies up there will help you in the East. That's a pretty good deal, when you consider the alternative to warring in Anatolia -- which is attacking Egypt first. I've started the Seleucid campaign three times (first time I abandoned because I noticed that my unit size was wrong). What I've noticed is that you can kill off Cyprus easily by turn 4. You can kill off Egypt by turn 20 (pushing all the way into Libya). And you have at least until about turn 30 or so until everyone in the East who declared war on you during the first 10 turns actually shows up in Mesopotamia and starts killing Media, which should prompt you to start to getting ready to defend yourself and conquer Mesopotamia for yourself..
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
October 28 2013 18:14 GMT
#1828
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aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 21:48:17
October 28 2013 21:45 GMT
#1829
Started a Seleucid campaign, disolved satrapy with Sardes, made nice with Pontus and its friends, as well as Athen and Sparta. Conquered cyprus on turn 4, egypt asked for peace and gave me 8k in the process. I teched to tier 3 baracks and stable, and now i'm rolling over mesopotamia and arabic peninsul. My initial plan was to go after egypt, but Athen and Sparta allied them, so i did the same, completely securing my western and northern front. No one ever declared war on me, and I have like 7 military alliances. It seems you can be fairly easily at peace as seleucid.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 29 2013 03:56 GMT
#1830
That sounds too easy, I would still go for Egypt. But the war on such a broad front on the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia is pretty tough, relentless stacks of elite cavalry and troops. In my campaign Parthia made very quick expansions allied with Media Atro, with constant harassment by lucky agents it gets pretty annoying, not to mention Media is completely useless just sitting there and waiting to die. I'm still trying to solidify my foothold of Liyba and Egypt, occupying two of my generals. Then the Ma'in in the South launch 3 full stacks across the Red Sea to conquer Ethiopia(They would probably take a town or two before I slaughter them, so no problem). My satrapies are either all dead or went their own way.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
October 29 2013 09:55 GMT
#1831
On October 29 2013 12:56 Disregard wrote:
That sounds too easy, I would still go for Egypt. But the war on such a broad front on the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia is pretty tough, relentless stacks of elite cavalry and troops. In my campaign Parthia made very quick expansions allied with Media Atro, with constant harassment by lucky agents it gets pretty annoying, not to mention Media is completely useless just sitting there and waiting to die. I'm still trying to solidify my foothold of Liyba and Egypt, occupying two of my generals. Then the Ma'in in the South launch 3 full stacks across the Red Sea to conquer Ethiopia(They would probably take a town or two before I slaughter them, so no problem). My satrapies are either all dead or went their own way.


I was really at peace, then suddenly civil war erupts at turn 40, with imperium barely at 3
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 29 2013 14:35 GMT
#1832
On October 29 2013 18:55 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 12:56 Disregard wrote:
That sounds too easy, I would still go for Egypt. But the war on such a broad front on the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia is pretty tough, relentless stacks of elite cavalry and troops. In my campaign Parthia made very quick expansions allied with Media Atro, with constant harassment by lucky agents it gets pretty annoying, not to mention Media is completely useless just sitting there and waiting to die. I'm still trying to solidify my foothold of Liyba and Egypt, occupying two of my generals. Then the Ma'in in the South launch 3 full stacks across the Red Sea to conquer Ethiopia(They would probably take a town or two before I slaughter them, so no problem). My satrapies are either all dead or went their own way.


I was really at peace, then suddenly civil war erupts at turn 40, with imperium barely at 3

Yeah, if the civil war comes too early during your Seleucid campaign, you're totally screwed, which is why you have to be more deliberate about expansion. In my current campaign, I'm about 100 turns in and am in much better shape to withstand a civil war than in my last game. I've more or less flattened all of my old satrapies and everyone else out east. I'm just mopping up what's left in Arachaosia, Baktria, and the stuff that's generally northeast of Parthia. I have 4 (soon to be 5) full-stack armies camping around Syria in preparation for the civil war. I've kept my noble support above 60% fairly consistently, which I think has helped prevent the civil war from breaking out prematurely. It's about time to tank it.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
October 29 2013 15:04 GMT
#1833
On October 29 2013 23:35 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 18:55 aXa wrote:
On October 29 2013 12:56 Disregard wrote:
That sounds too easy, I would still go for Egypt. But the war on such a broad front on the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia is pretty tough, relentless stacks of elite cavalry and troops. In my campaign Parthia made very quick expansions allied with Media Atro, with constant harassment by lucky agents it gets pretty annoying, not to mention Media is completely useless just sitting there and waiting to die. I'm still trying to solidify my foothold of Liyba and Egypt, occupying two of my generals. Then the Ma'in in the South launch 3 full stacks across the Red Sea to conquer Ethiopia(They would probably take a town or two before I slaughter them, so no problem). My satrapies are either all dead or went their own way.


I was really at peace, then suddenly civil war erupts at turn 40, with imperium barely at 3

Yeah, if the civil war comes too early during your Seleucid campaign, you're totally screwed, which is why you have to be more deliberate about expansion. In my current campaign, I'm about 100 turns in and am in much better shape to withstand a civil war than in my last game. I've more or less flattened all of my old satrapies and everyone else out east. I'm just mopping up what's left in Arachaosia, Baktria, and the stuff that's generally northeast of Parthia. I have 4 (soon to be 5) full-stack armies camping around Syria in preparation for the civil war. I've kept my noble support above 60% fairly consistently, which I think has helped prevent the civil war from breaking out prematurely. It's about time to tank it.


I defeated the civil war fairly easily, I had 4 stacks pretty much in the vicinity. I didn't expand much, just sealed a bunch of alliances and retained most of my satrapies. They are pretty powerful and acutally conquer cities when I declare war on someone, like armenia. I think they'll wipe Parthia too. I only have 4 full region worth of cities.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 29 2013 15:08 GMT
#1834
Do other factions really respect alliances? Like, if you're truly pacific towards them, they're buddies?
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aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
October 29 2013 15:44 GMT
#1835
On October 30 2013 00:08 Incognoto wrote:
Do other factions really respect alliances? Like, if you're truly pacific towards them, they're buddies?


So far, so good for me.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 29 2013 17:10 GMT
#1836
One thing to keep in mind that you need to give military access to your allies. Otherwise, they won't send help. Took me a while to figure that out.

In my current game, my Hellenic and Anatolian allies are running wild. I don't think I have seen a game yet where the Greeks don't kick ass. Once I finish my conquests in the East, the only place for me to go will be through Africa and into Sicily, Italy, and Spain.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 30 2013 00:02 GMT
#1837
On October 30 2013 02:10 xDaunt wrote:
One thing to keep in mind that you need to give military access to your allies. Otherwise, they won't send help. Took me a while to figure that out.

In my current game, my Hellenic and Anatolian allies are running wild. I don't think I have seen a game yet where the Greeks don't kick ass. Once I finish my conquests in the East, the only place for me to go will be through Africa and into Sicily, Italy, and Spain.


Hope you don't have to backstab some of your Greek allies if they expand too quickly.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 30 2013 01:19 GMT
#1838
On October 30 2013 09:02 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 02:10 xDaunt wrote:
One thing to keep in mind that you need to give military access to your allies. Otherwise, they won't send help. Took me a while to figure that out.

In my current game, my Hellenic and Anatolian allies are running wild. I don't think I have seen a game yet where the Greeks don't kick ass. Once I finish my conquests in the East, the only place for me to go will be through Africa and into Sicily, Italy, and Spain.


Hope you don't have to backstab some of your Greek allies if they expand too quickly.

Doesn't look like that's going to be a problem. The Norii (or one of those tribes north of Cisalpina) formed a confederation and are beating the piss out of the Greeks. They're probably going to push all the way down to Cicilia if I don't intervene.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
October 30 2013 03:29 GMT
#1839
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 30 2013 03:32 GMT
#1840
Hoplites are insanely strong and resilient. even the militia-grade ones are tough.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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