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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
Whenever it does go on sale, I'll be happy, whatever the date happens to be. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
Empire for example was pretty much unplayable when it came out (naval invasions anyone?) and it took modders like Darth Vader almost 3 years to make it somewhat playable because of the stupid modding limitations. I recently played a campaign with the latest DarthMod and for the first time i enjoyed a campaign in that game. So what i'm saying to myself is basically that i shouldn't be as hyped as i am right now for Rome 2 because Creative Assembly hasn't actually created a deeply awesome game since Medieval Total War: Viking Invasion and 10 years of underperforming are a long time in video game time. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
Then you play the game and realize it's just a buggy piece of crap with shiny wrapping and shallow as hell gameplay. After Medieval 1, I've yet to find myself fighting interesting or strategic battles. It's usually just some variation of standing there shooting arrows at each other and charging with cavalry when one side is whittled down enough. I rarely get the feeling of being a general commanding an army and using clever tactics or strategy to get ahead. Plus, the load times are horrendous, even on top of the line PCs, and there are so many random crashes. Shogun 2 was nearly unplayable for me for over a year due to the bugs. And because the load time was so long, it totally killed my immersion. Sitting there for 10 minutes while your game reloaded, usually another 10 min autosaved from where you actually crashed, is a pretty crappy way to play a game. Anybody who thinks Rome 2 will be any different needs to buy some swampland from me. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On January 23 2013 14:57 DannyJ wrote: Yeah Total Wars fall short often, but I think the potential the series has is why I always keep getting hyped. If they can hit a home run just one time... Rome Total War I was really good, and a big home run. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On January 23 2013 15:07 superstartran wrote: Rome Total War I was really good, and a big home run. Oh well yeah, I meant their more recent generation of games. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
I'm curious when they'll be have the guts to make a new game, instead of churning out remakes. Napoleon was just empire redone, Shogun 2 is shogun redone and Rome 2 is rome redone. There are plenty of other interesting time periods and continents out there! China's history alone spans 3000 years, why not do something on that? Or something on the Aztec and Mayan cultures? | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On January 23 2013 20:09 maartendq wrote: The thing that usually disappoints me most about the Total War series is how boring and unresponsive the real time battles are. It usually takes ages for a unit to go stand into the desired stance, not something you'd expect from trained soldiers. I'm curious when they'll be having the guts to make a new game, instead of churning out remakes. Napoleon was just empire redone, Shogun 2 is shogun redone and Rome 2 is rome redone. There are plenty of other interesting time periods and continents out there! China's history alone spans 3000 years, why not do something on that? Or something on the Aztec and Mayan cultures? Maybe more China stuff or all of asia might be neat but the problem with concentrating is you limit the amount of weapons used. Rome and Empire encompass the world (mostly) the only focused game has been Shogan and people only like that because Samurais' kick ass. I don't think a game like Mayan Total War or something would do well just very little variety. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
especially fall of the samurai, where all i do is wait for black bear spammers to walk in range of my red bears and i proceed to charge them with a spear levy in front to tank the first volley. i do this shit wellington style also iirc they are doing a warhammer fantasy total war next. which would be bloody awesome. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On January 23 2013 21:53 Caller wrote: shogun 2 is pretty funny especially fall of the samurai, where all i do is wait for black bear spammers to walk in range of my red bears and i proceed to charge them with a spear levy in front to tank the first volley. i do this shit wellington style also iirc they are doing a warhammer fantasy total war next. which would be bloody awesome. The bought the rights, as far as i know, so a Warhammer game seems possible and might be really cool. Every Total War game adds a few features that are really cool, but the games have their flaws deep inside, which is sad. Rome1 brought us the free to move campaign map, but the AI was never able to handle it properly. Medieval 2 brought different types of cities, but this cool feature was dropped afterwards Empire brought (unrealistic and unbalanced) Naval battles, different World Theatres, Technology Research, the Napoleon Addon gave us the cool Unit regeneration feature. Shogun 2 was the first game without undefined rebel factions, tons of minor factions (who had no character and since diplomacy was broken turned out worse than rebel factions) All these games added something cool to the series, but weren't made enjoyable until modders worked on them. In the case of Shogun 2, the modders haven't yet made the game cool, due to the ridiculous limitations. I guess Rome will add the combined Land&Sea battles, minor factions with destinct characteristics and probably other small innovations, but if the game itself works remains to be seen, i'd be endlessly happy if they'd succeed for the first since Medieval 1. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
My favourite thing about bugs is working out how to abuse them. It makes you able to pull off ludicrous victories to save your fledgling empire when, by all rights, you should be defeated. It gives me a buzz to escape from certain death by abusing bugs far more than pretty much any other feeling in video games!! I remember when I discovered in Rome 1 that you could siege a town with 3 armies then flee with whichever army is attacked and you could hold the town under siege with only 3 units of peasants until it fell...that was hilarious and epic lol. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On January 23 2013 20:12 CajunMan wrote: Maybe more China stuff or all of asia might be neat but the problem with concentrating is you limit the amount of weapons used. Rome and Empire encompass the world (mostly) the only focused game has been Shogan and people only like that because Samurais' kick ass. I don't think a game like Mayan Total War or something would do well just very little variety. This has to be one of the flimsiest, historically ignorant, and just plain nonsensical arguments I've ever heard for why the TW franchise should not do a game set in China. Or Central and South America for that matter. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On January 23 2013 23:42 sc4k wrote: I am not even remotely bothered by bugs in games if they do something that no other game in the world does (no game even comes close to total war...in terms of epic battles every other game is just pathetic and a complete fail). I am used to it, I just look past the bugs. I have ploughed 100+ hours into every total war game and they are all of them special to me. Each game is gorgeous and epic. But Rome stands out head and shoulders above all. I have played maybe 300 hours in that game with many different civs on different sides of the Imperial story. The settings are the most exciting, going from the desert dunes to the snowy mountains to the lush verdant countryside and the dense forest. It's just incredible and awesome. With some of the things they have come up with in the previous 3 games I just can't get over how excited I am. Rome 2...my mouth is watering. My favourite thing about bugs is working out how to abuse them. It makes you able to pull off ludicrous victories to save your fledgling empire when, by all rights, you should be defeated. It gives me a buzz to escape from certain death by abusing bugs far more than pretty much any other feeling in video games!! I remember when I discovered in Rome 1 that you could siege a town with 3 armies then flee with whichever army is attacked and you could hold the town under siege with only 3 units of peasants until it fell...that was hilarious and epic lol. Got sieged by the AI once as the Seleucids. Had far fewer troops (like, on the range of 1:5) and it was really early game, so only a basic palisade for defense. Just placed a phalanx or two at each spot at the wall that the AI was ramming. Once those sections fell, they "a-moved" into my spears and never stopped rushing. Easiest Heroic Victory ever. Again, phalanx OP.  (Actually, that's more an example of AI far, far underpowered, lol.) | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On January 23 2013 19:11 SamsungStar wrote: I thought Rome 1 was okay, but the physics of how the troops interacted was really strange. Like the cavalry all move around like they're on ice skates, and the impact of their charges are often really odd as well. But Rome 1 was a decent game all in all. I still agree with the other guy though that once free movement was added, the AI turned really strange. IMO Medieval 1 was the best one. Rome wasn't bad, mostly because I loved the setting, but there were some big flaws with the engine. Medieval 1 was the best for me as well. It was also the most logical in terms of units performing to expectations according to their stats. Later games in the series had all sorts of hidden mechanics that the unit stats feel meaningless. That said, I did enjoy Shogun 2. The setting decreased replayability since the factions are very similar but it also resulted in a more fine-tuned game in terms of the usefulness of various units. So far, Rome 2 is looking good. There's a level of detail that wasn't there in Rome 1, which was a fairy tale loosely based on history. Rome 2 looks like it has actual history in it. | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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hpty603
United States262 Posts
On January 24 2013 06:51 3772 wrote: I suggest you guys go play Europa Barbarorum while waiting for Rome 2. It's a mod for Rome which is actually historically accurate and with some extra things like more traits for characters and much more detailed "barbarians". Or Roma Surrectum (Should be Surrecta >_<) 2. It's another great mod | ||
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