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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21703 Posts
September 05 2013 17:26 GMT
#1081
To whoever was wondering what the other family's actually do. It depends a lot of what faction your playing. As Rome they actually do assassinations and rumors against you but if your playing one of the other solo family factions they are pretty much a non-factor. You start with so much influence compared to the "other family's" that there is pretty much no danger.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 17:28:59
September 05 2013 17:28 GMT
#1082
Wait. It's already out. I was so hyped for it then I forgot!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
September 05 2013 18:26 GMT
#1083
hey bros I discovered something that you might not know which is really useful, if you left click hold on a unit you can then move it in any direction. Works really nicely for groups of troops, to edge them forward!!
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#1084
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 18:59:42
September 05 2013 18:58 GMT
#1085
On September 06 2013 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?

The way they made Spartans made it pretty hard to get any kind of numbers in their army. I'm surprised that they get 20 of them anyway.

Man breaking formation as a phalanx is fucking murder. I got pwned by basic mobs and levy spearman beacuse I got cocky and had them attack different units. I think the sucessor kingdoms are either broken mechanicaly or ultra high skill cap difficulty factions.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
September 05 2013 19:05 GMT
#1086
On September 05 2013 21:11 SCkad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 20:55 sc4k wrote:
On September 05 2013 19:16 MotherOfRunes wrote:
On September 05 2013 19:07 sc4k wrote:
On September 05 2013 18:35 MotherOfRunes wrote:
every fucking TW game the ai was shit at the beginning. in some it got bettr after patches like in medieval 2 (still the best tw game of all, BY FAR)


By far? Stopped reading there, and then went back to the earlier stuff in your post and erased it from my mind.

plz tell me more


You are welcome to have your opinion about which you prefer but there is no way m2tw was *far* better than Rome. It is madness.


Rome 1, Medieval 2 and shogun 2 are the best of the series but though an argument can be made for each of them you can't say "this game is the best of the series by far" because the other two are just as good i'd say

still undecided on Rome 2, its fun but i'll wait till i complete a campaign


you probably never played mtw1, the older games also had better ai. i remember being so captivated by mtw1 when i first played it, and rome1 too. i never had it with any other game tho i did play a bit of mtw2. i skipped shogun after NTW was kinda a let down, a solid game but too little variation. perhaps i shouldnt have...

but this rome is a bit dissapointing so far. the campaign takes ages but turns are 1 a year which doesnt work in this setting (it worked fine in the original mtw). the battles are going way too fast... while in every other tw game i played i could pull of defenses against 1 to 2 odds (even on the hardest mode), and sometimes even 1 to 10 in walled cities here i cant even do 1-1... and not because the ai is so brilliant.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 05 2013 19:06 GMT
#1087
On September 06 2013 03:58 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?

The way they made Spartans made it pretty hard to get any kind of numbers in their army. I'm surprised that they get 20 of them anyway.

Man breaking formation as a phalanx is fucking murder. I got pwned by basic mobs and levy spearman beacuse I got cocky and had them attack different units. I think the sucessor kingdoms are either broken mechanicaly or ultra high skill cap difficulty factions.

broken mechanically.

CA should move away from this 'you can play any faction' towards just locking you into play Rome and then spending their time streaminlining the Romans. The amount of anger I feel when I try to play as Macedon or Epirus is disproportionate to what anyone should feel about any game.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 05 2013 19:08 GMT
#1088
On September 06 2013 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?

Because CA feels guilty about making a ridiculously unrealistic Sparta?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21703 Posts
September 05 2013 19:09 GMT
#1089
Trying legendary, total war achievement (always war with everyone) and holy crap cavalry is OP.
Playing as Parthia i just build a few of there initial melee cavalry and they just murder everything they get a charge on. It can be a little tricky if you somehow get bogged down but so long as your charging they break everything in 10 seconds or less.
Really much worse then i had in previous plays as Rome/Sparta
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
September 05 2013 19:10 GMT
#1090
On September 05 2013 22:53 ChunderBoy wrote:
Disappointing but fun, I've played every single TW starting with Shogun 1, I have to say Rome 2 feels absolutely retarded.
Playing Parthia. After early experimentation I came to the conclusion that missle units are useless. My armies consist of Cataphracts only, every single battle lasts 2 minutes in total. And this is how they go:

Put your 12+ Cataphract units in a single line.
Charge enemies.
70% of enemy army dies from the first charge impact, the rest rout.
Never lost a battle, never lost more than 100 units even against 3K armies.
If its a Capital siege, you just dismount, flame gates, and charge your 1K horses through that one gate and win.

Money is useless, I'm currently at 100K+ gold and earning 20K per turn. No guard mode, no loose formation, spear phalanx is bugged, families don't do anything, hitpoints?! why did they ever introduce hitpoints, shields are useless against arrows eventually you'll die to them, buggy graphics, 1 turn per year, no seasons, random capture points in open fields, naval combat is really buggy, and lots of other stupid stuff... I bet this game was made to be playable on console as well.
etc... etc...

Atleast it's really fun. I still enjoy watching whole enemy armies die to a single Cataphract charge.
I have hope for patches/expansions to fix this game.


oh lol... this sounds alot like the cataphract general unit of the sassanids in the Rome: Barbarian invasion expensian. that was so funny, u could defeat entire armies with 2 family members... in fact i conquered half the world with just 2 family members and some cheap merc infantry to storm the walls and open the doors XD

but ya combat... way too fast. battle last like 6 minutes and thousands are dead :S
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
September 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#1091
On September 06 2013 01:38 Incognoto wrote:
Are there any good rome total war 1 mods that some of you might recommend?

This one is pretty good: http://www.rometotalrealism.org/
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
September 05 2013 19:22 GMT
#1092
Well units need a lot of balancing that's no news.

By the way... character leveling just suck imo. Shogun 2 had a way clearer and more interesting system of leveling. This... it just sucks.

So far after having put more hours into the game... I sadly feel I was more impressed with Shogun 2 (as for release state), it was more polished and just better put together in my opinion despite shit AI and other stuff (that are still aweful in R2). So far the only thing R2 has over S2 in my opinion is the scope of the campaign and unit diversity...
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
September 05 2013 19:23 GMT
#1093
On September 06 2013 04:15 CoughingHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:38 Incognoto wrote:
Are there any good rome total war 1 mods that some of you might recommend?

This one is pretty good: http://www.rometotalrealism.org/


there is no comparison to this one in scope, attention to detail, and historical correctness. if thats your thing, www.europabarbarorum.com/ is the one to play. RTR was a rival at first, but imo got outclassed in the end.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#1094
On September 06 2013 04:08 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?

Because CA feels guilty about making a ridiculously unrealistic Sparta?


Did they actually do any historical research or just watched the movie 300? That movie is 99% inaccurate but it's where most of the Sparta fans got their historical knowledge from.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
September 05 2013 19:39 GMT
#1095
On September 06 2013 04:23 TSORG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 04:15 CoughingHydra wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:38 Incognoto wrote:
Are there any good rome total war 1 mods that some of you might recommend?

This one is pretty good: http://www.rometotalrealism.org/


there is no comparison to this one in scope, attention to detail, and historical correctness. if thats your thing, www.europabarbarorum.com/ is the one to play. RTR was a rival at first, but imo got outclassed in the end.


can you recommend any other realistic mods like this one for the other games? namely shogun 2 and empires.
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
September 05 2013 19:40 GMT
#1096
what about post-marian reform type legionaires and auxilia troops in 260 bc... 12 turns after i started lol.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
September 05 2013 19:43 GMT
#1097
On September 06 2013 04:06 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 03:58 Sermokala wrote:
On September 06 2013 03:46 xDaunt wrote:
Alright, wtf. Why are Spartan hoplites arbitrarily capped at 20 for the whole game? What's the point when the rest of their units blow?

The way they made Spartans made it pretty hard to get any kind of numbers in their army. I'm surprised that they get 20 of them anyway.

Man breaking formation as a phalanx is fucking murder. I got pwned by basic mobs and levy spearman beacuse I got cocky and had them attack different units. I think the sucessor kingdoms are either broken mechanicaly or ultra high skill cap difficulty factions.

broken mechanically.

CA should move away from this 'you can play any faction' towards just locking you into play Rome and then spending their time streaminlining the Romans. The amount of anger I feel when I try to play as Macedon or Epirus is disproportionate to what anyone should feel about any game.

That sounds like an utterly shite game that has no multiplayer, modability, or multiplayer. Please stop posting dumb ideas.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 19:45:20
September 05 2013 19:43 GMT
#1098
On September 06 2013 04:39 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 04:23 TSORG wrote:
On September 06 2013 04:15 CoughingHydra wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:38 Incognoto wrote:
Are there any good rome total war 1 mods that some of you might recommend?

This one is pretty good: http://www.rometotalrealism.org/


there is no comparison to this one in scope, attention to detail, and historical correctness. if thats your thing, www.europabarbarorum.com/ is the one to play. RTR was a rival at first, but imo got outclassed in the end.


can you recommend any other realistic mods like this one for the other games? namely shogun 2 and empires.


i cant im sorry :S the games you ask for are exactly the games that came after a TW game i was dissapointed in so i never bought them. (i did get empire recently but couldnt really play it due to graphical problems)

i know about Stainless Steel for MTW2, which is supposed to be pretty good!

but if you want to find out, sign up at totalwar.org or twcenter.net and ask your question, if there are any good historical mods out for these games, then those are the forums where the people working on the mods were coordinating their work (or atleast started to do so.) EB came from totalwar.org, Rome Total Realism from TWcenter.net. any similar mods for other titles in the series are probably found there too, or people would know about it atleast.

gl
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9654 Posts
September 05 2013 20:47 GMT
#1099
I'm really quite embarrassed to say that i haven't even played this game since Tuesday. I just don't want to play it.

I wish i did,
RIP Meatloaf <3
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
September 05 2013 20:57 GMT
#1100
On September 06 2013 05:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm really quite embarrassed to say that i haven't even played this game since Tuesday. I just don't want to play it.

I wish i did,

Kinda in the same boat.
Just played a few turns in campaign and a few custom battles. Saw a shitload of gameplay bugs and weird stuff, so I read other people reactions, same for everyone. Now I'm just waiting for the patches (right now the game really needs BIG one).
Sad, since the game have a lot of potential.
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