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On May 11 2013 19:00 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 17:35 Skilledblob wrote:On May 11 2013 11:38 sc4k wrote:On May 11 2013 08:36 hpty603 wrote:On May 11 2013 08:21 sc4k wrote:On May 11 2013 06:58 Skilledblob wrote:On May 11 2013 06:49 Chocolate wrote:
I refuse to buy this game if they only release a very small amount of factions along with a bunch of DLC factions. Complete and utter bull. DLCs should be things like unit expansions, map expansions, or other important changes (like a different battle screen), not things that should come with the game on the first day and which can't even take that long to create.
At the very list, if they're going to do the DLC scam they should release the vanilla game for free. no idea why you are angry about those three greek cities being DLC. You can play Macedonia which is another greek kingdom and I bet those three city states will just play the same. There might be some differences in the style of rulership between them but the units are the same. You have no idea? No idea at all? I mean, they've never done anything like this with Total War and you have NO idea?! Especially for factions so central to the game. I mean, Ikko Ikki...yeah okay don't really need them. But the Greek States o.O jeez, that's something serious to ship the game with that can't be used if you don't spend £15 ($23). They originally planned on having only the 8 factions. This was locked in development well before they decided to add the Greek States. They're including them as DLC for free because the dev team decided to include them but as an addon so it wouldn't interfere with ship dates, deadlines, etc. Also, they made a point that regardless of retailer, all preorders would get the preorder bonus and the dlc. Just use the cd-key that your game has to register it on Steam. Well I'm flabbergasted they didn't think to include the Greek States from the get-go o.O. I mean come on, they are at the very centre of the action! If anything, a race like Pontus is far less significant in the general scheme of things. Greeks were one of the most enjoyable factions to play in Rome 1. the greek city states were a piece of shit when the romans came. They were conquered by Macedon and with the death of Alexander they started infighting again. There was nothing great about the greek city states anymore when the romans appeared. While I bow to you guys' knowledge of actual history, I would point out that this is a game where you aren't necessarily playing a role so much as making your side as badass as possible. It would be standard fare in TW to be able to take the Greek States and make them great again rather than let them slide into obscurity. Although I do like the idea of them being split up like the brutii scipii and julii were in Rome 1. In terms of fame, Pontus is still way less known and, I would venture without actually knowing the facts, way less culturally relevant than Greece, at least to the majority of Europeans. Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 17:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On May 11 2013 16:50 Capped wrote:
Mad about DLC but love total war and want to support it?
Pirate the DLC and buy the game.
There, now your doing both. I wont buy it and write an email to the publisher. People have to vote with their wallet or we will get fucked over and over again. e:grammar It seems like you can pre order it anywhere and get the 'DLC'. For a £30 pre order from Amazon or even apparently a £25 pre order I read about from Xavvi, there's no reason to be particularly upset. It's just a stupid price point for Steam and GMG and the CA website. I'm kinda shocked, I guess they value the difference between having to wait for a game to be shipped and being able to download it (or even pre download it) at £15!!!! I actually wonder if it's a method of testing how far customers can be pushed into making online purchases, even when the other options are far more sensible. I did write an email to CA but I suppose an email to the publisher makes more sense.
I've heard that the publishers set the price on Steam. It is set high because they shift a significant number of copies from other retailers, and do not want to upset them by having Steam undercut them.
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SPARTANS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN ROME!
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All right 45$ for pre-order and with DLCs is a deal for me.
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paid the 45$ for game +DLC also. was worth it.
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I guess GMG sends the key for steam later this year right ?
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Awesome deal, man. Thanks for sharing 
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Steam also says september 2013... seems damn early with so little footage right now :X
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On May 13 2013 20:20 djukger wrote:
55€ for germans -.-
Have you checked Amazon?
I pre ordered on Amazon for £30. Got no problem spending that amount when I trust CA to produce a quality game that gives me at least 100 hours of enjoyment.
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Is there any description of what they have done to the strategic gameplay out there? Looking at the faction descriptions, it is very apparent that this game is not strictly about building armies and conquering neighbors. It's going to be a very different animal than Rome.
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I see no reason why it would deviate majorly from any of the other titles, they are all basically the same game with a few improvements and changes every time.
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I expect the game to be similar to Shogun 2 to be honest, just with some differences obviously but the "feeling" should be the same for combat and campaign.
Just with more variety etc. of course.
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On May 14 2013 11:36 rezoacken wrote:
I expect the game to be similar to Shogun 2 to be honest, just with some differences obviously but the "feeling" should be the same for combat and campaign.
Just with more variety etc. of course.
Yup. The game play really hasn't changed much since medieval 2, it's still turnbased campaign map and RTS battles. I guess the "big" difference with this game will be the amphibious assaults... doubt I will even see many of them in the grand scheme of things.
Reason I'm buying Rome 2 over Shogun 2 though, is more about the details, rather than the game mechanics. Rome 2 will cover a far greater scope than Shogun did and will feature much more diversity in units and environments. The environments in particular pique my interest, because the design team claims to have made enough variations and unique battlefields such as the Carthage one, to not run into the problem of having to play the same castle siege for the 15th time in the same campaign.
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On May 14 2013 11:36 rezoacken wrote:
I expect the game to be similar to Shogun 2 to be honest, just with some differences obviously but the "feeling" should be the same for combat and campaign.
Just with more variety etc. of course.
The game will be nothing like Shogun 2 in terms of combat.
They purposely made Shogun 2 have lightning fast battles because they wanted to accurately portray warfare in Japan for basically all of their history. They did not use shields and too complicated maneuvers. Everyone had Yari and some bows and a backup sword and you charged the fuck out of each other. Now don't take this as "Japan had no tactics!", but it's a fact their battles were lightning fast compared to European ones and they accurately portrayed that with units that routed faster, moved faster, and made charges much more effective.
Each unit has an individual healthbar -- that's the biggest change so far I believe. Shields are returning, and the devs have stated once or twice that they intend to drastically slow down combat in this game because of such. The "feel" for combat will be less shock-and-awe lightning war (which is fun, I don't want to give off the impression that's not fun -- Shogun is my 2nd favorite Total War) and more defensive tactical maneuvering waiting for a precise moment to strike. In many ways Shogun 2 is you're striking the entire game and Rome II you're setting up a single strike that will win you a battle, or at least that's the impression the devs are giving us. Combine this with a huge unit choice compared to S2 Vanilla or even FotS and I don't think it's a fair statement to say this game will have more than just "some differences"
The Campaign map will 'feel' generally the same true, but considering Shogun 2 covers Japan which is like having a game that is covered only in North Africa and we're getting all of Europe, some of Scandanavia and Britain and Russia and Persia and the entire Middle East, the sheer scope of the new map will give an entirely different feel.
That said, I can't wait for some Roman Era naval battles mang. I'm so pumped and I'm such a fanboy you dont even. That tactical map is basically giving me a chub thinking of how many AAR's I can do now with that. That and sieges. We haven't had a proper siege mechanic since Medieval 2.
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So excited for this. Total War is a sick series and Rome 2 looks like its going to be on a whole other level
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Not the right game, but I figure I'll get people who are actually interested in this series to see... I have two 75% off Shogun 2 coupons on steam (so does everyone else who own Empire I think..). As I already own Shogun 2, anyone who wants one just PM me and I can send a coupon over. They expire May 23rd I think.
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The awesome thing about Rome is that each faction was unique and offered a different gameplay experience....Rome was more about legions, greek/macedonians had phalanx, egyptians chariots, carthage elephants, etc. My main issue with other entries like Shogun 2 is that every faction was basically the same...no diversity. Long as Rome 2 follows the Rome model it should be solid
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On May 11 2013 17:35 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 11:38 sc4k wrote:On May 11 2013 08:36 hpty603 wrote:On May 11 2013 08:21 sc4k wrote:On May 11 2013 06:58 Skilledblob wrote:On May 11 2013 06:49 Chocolate wrote:
I refuse to buy this game if they only release a very small amount of factions along with a bunch of DLC factions. Complete and utter bull. DLCs should be things like unit expansions, map expansions, or other important changes (like a different battle screen), not things that should come with the game on the first day and which can't even take that long to create.
At the very list, if they're going to do the DLC scam they should release the vanilla game for free. no idea why you are angry about those three greek cities being DLC. You can play Macedonia which is another greek kingdom and I bet those three city states will just play the same. There might be some differences in the style of rulership between them but the units are the same. You have no idea? No idea at all? I mean, they've never done anything like this with Total War and you have NO idea?! Especially for factions so central to the game. I mean, Ikko Ikki...yeah okay don't really need them. But the Greek States o.O jeez, that's something serious to ship the game with that can't be used if you don't spend £15 ($23). They originally planned on having only the 8 factions. This was locked in development well before they decided to add the Greek States. They're including them as DLC for free because the dev team decided to include them but as an addon so it wouldn't interfere with ship dates, deadlines, etc. Also, they made a point that regardless of retailer, all preorders would get the preorder bonus and the dlc. Just use the cd-key that your game has to register it on Steam. Well I'm flabbergasted they didn't think to include the Greek States from the get-go o.O. I mean come on, they are at the very centre of the action! If anything, a race like Pontus is far less significant in the general scheme of things. Greeks were one of the most enjoyable factions to play in Rome 1. the greek city states were a piece of shit when the romans came. They were conquered by Macedon and with the death of Alexander they started infighting again. There was nothing great about the greek city states anymore when the romans appeared.
Yet from the trailer they've released for the Greek cities we can see Spartans.... Corinthian helms with transverse crests, muscled bronze cuirasses, hoplons and 8 ft spears... That's okay for 490 BC, but isn't the game meant to start in 275 BC?
I'm sure it'll be a good game but it's a shame that for some people it's the only history they'll learn! 
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