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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
So they start slow and introduce you slowly to everything. This includes easy combat at trhe beginning. If you are bored, you can attack lvl 5 mobs as level 1 and have your mortal danger. Also, noone ever is forcing you to do sidequests, especially the level 1 ones that make you run around the city for an hour. You can just not do it. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I'm hoping to do a lot of playing tonight!! | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:29 Vaporeon wrote: You can skip cut scenes, just hit escape. And this children, is why pokemon is awesome. Educating you since 98' | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:30 LaNague wrote: for new people mmos are completely overwhelming. So they start slow and introduce you slowly to everything. This includes easy combat at trhe beginning. If you are bored, you can attack lvl 5 mobs as level 1 and have your mortal danger. Also, noone ever is forcing you to do sidequests, especially the level 1 ones that make you run around the city for an hour. You can just not do it. I found that the story quests included quite a lot of fetchquesting, though I agree that most boring quests can be safely ignored. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
Can't skip the opening cutscenes which is a bummer, but you can skip almost all the other cutscenes in game. Quests are boring, I agree. I'm kinda new to MMOs (only played FFXI for 4 months, and that was at release) so I don't know a lot of what's going on, but so far the entire game has been pretty easy and grindy. Gonna hit 30 on my Archer soon but DPS is boring as hell. I'm sticking to gathering/crafting for now. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On September 06 2013 00:35 Yacobs wrote: infernal_dream, why can't a game have at least a SEMBLANCE of complexity when you start? Why do you equate me wanting some form of complexity with me wanting to be all-powerful? It does take forever to get a decent skill set. Lancer has to wait for lvl 26 to get the oh-so-complex combo of press 1, press 2, press 3... I'm at lvl 36 now and it's getting really fun during boss fights. But getting to this point, wow, just way too simple IMO. So far I've found the leveling/progression aspect much more boring than SWTOR (the only other mmo I played a lot). On the flip side the boss mechanics are much better in FF14. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:46 JonnyBNoHo wrote: It does take forever to get a decent skill set. Lancer has to wait for lvl 26 to get the oh-so-complex combo of press 1, press 2, press 3... I'm at lvl 36 now and it's getting really fun during boss fights. But getting to this point, wow, just way too simple IMO. So far I've found the leveling/progression aspect much more boring than SWTOR (the only other mmo I played a lot). On the flip side the boss mechanics are much better in FF14. This is what worries me the most about the game. I only got to lvl 12-15 or so in the beta as a gladiator, so my only experience is that limited, but it seemed like skill progression was ridiculously slow and there was almost no tactic to skill usage what so ever... use the damage combo as fast as possible, dodge red areas, pop cooldowns at the right times (which is pretty much as soon as possible when solo questing). Obviously use the aggro combo and the taunt if tanking for a group. I realize lvl 15 is nothing, but like you say, it seems that even more than halfway through the levels, it's still just a very small amount of skills and very simple rotations. I'm not saying Wow had amazingly complex rotations, but there was a lot of optimization that could be done which was enjoyable IMO. I loved to play dps warrior because the difference in damage between a lazy rotation and an optimized rotation was massive and required quite a bit of concentration... is there any chance FFXIV has anything like that in the end-game? Also, could someone compare healing between WoW and FFXIV? I've never had as much fun as when I healed heroics at the start of cataclysm on my holy priest... you had to use spells almost perfectly before the heroics were nerfed and better gear was widely available, but I can't imagine healing working like this in FFXIV since it has to be playable on controller.. in Wow, I had the grid mod which allowed me perfect control and overview over the whole party, what buffs I had going where etc... It was hectic as hell, but ridiculously fun. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On September 06 2013 02:38 Tobberoth wrote: This is what worries me the most about the game. I only got to lvl 12-15 or so in the beta as a gladiator, so my only experience is that limited, but it seemed like skill progression was ridiculously slow and there was almost no tactic to skill usage what so ever... use the damage combo as fast as possible, dodge red areas, pop cooldowns at the right times (which is pretty much as soon as possible when solo questing). Obviously use the aggro combo and the taunt if tanking for a group. I realize lvl 15 is nothing, but like you say, it seems that even more than halfway through the levels, it's still just a very small amount of skills and very simple rotations. I'm not saying Wow had amazingly complex rotations, but there was a lot of optimization that could be done which was enjoyable IMO. I loved to play dps warrior because the difference in damage between a lazy rotation and an optimized rotation was massive and required quite a bit of concentration... is there any chance FFXIV has anything like that in the end-game? Also, could someone compare healing between WoW and FFXIV? I've never had as much fun as when I healed heroics at the start of cataclysm on my holy priest... you had to use spells almost perfectly before the heroics were nerfed and better gear was widely available, but I can't imagine healing working like this in FFXIV since it has to be playable on controller.. in Wow, I had the grid mod which allowed me perfect control and overview over the whole party, what buffs I had going where etc... It was hectic as hell, but ridiculously fun. I have heard there is a huge spike in difficulty with level 35 dungeons. So far everything to 30 has just been tank and spank. Hell, I beat Hala-tali as DPS even though I was not in the boss fight since I wanted to watch the cutscene and the tank just ran in the boss chamber. | ||
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
On September 06 2013 02:17 aTnClouD wrote: Titan hard mode went down, it was so hard for my guild with the 800-900 ms delay from Europe. Had like 50 trys or more. We got dem epic weaponz There are no servers in the EU? | ||
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
EU servers are hosted on NA apparently. | ||
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On September 06 2013 03:17 ragz_gt wrote: There are alot EU playing, and the lag is not that bad. Friend mate from Sweden plays with about 250-300 ping, while not ideal, is not impossible to overcome. I have delayed response on a 800 ms average. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On September 06 2013 02:38 Tobberoth wrote: This is what worries me the most about the game. I only got to lvl 12-15 or so in the beta as a gladiator, so my only experience is that limited, but it seemed like skill progression was ridiculously slow and there was almost no tactic to skill usage what so ever... use the damage combo as fast as possible, dodge red areas, pop cooldowns at the right times (which is pretty much as soon as possible when solo questing). Obviously use the aggro combo and the taunt if tanking for a group. I realize lvl 15 is nothing, but like you say, it seems that even more than halfway through the levels, it's still just a very small amount of skills and very simple rotations. I'm not saying Wow had amazingly complex rotations, but there was a lot of optimization that could be done which was enjoyable IMO. I loved to play dps warrior because the difference in damage between a lazy rotation and an optimized rotation was massive and required quite a bit of concentration... is there any chance FFXIV has anything like that in the end-game? Also, could someone compare healing between WoW and FFXIV? I've never had as much fun as when I healed heroics at the start of cataclysm on my holy priest... you had to use spells almost perfectly before the heroics were nerfed and better gear was widely available, but I can't imagine healing working like this in FFXIV since it has to be playable on controller.. in Wow, I had the grid mod which allowed me perfect control and overview over the whole party, what buffs I had going where etc... It was hectic as hell, but ridiculously fun. To be fair, let me expand a bit. At lvl 36 I have my full standard rotation (1,2,3) as well as some other abilities that I have to mix in. Along with the standard rotation, during a boss fight I'll try to keep my DoT (Phlebotomize) up constantly along with my damage buffing attack (Heavy Thrust which requires positioning). Additionally I have a 1 attack buff auto-crit on a 60s CD that I time with no. 3 in my standard rotation, and a 20s buff on a 80s CD. I also have to mix in my Jump attack (ignores global cool down) when availabe and some defensive buffs if needed. Yesterday I beat Titan for the first time and it was quite a bit of fun. There were some good boss mechanics and I had to constantly keep my rotation going, my buffs and DoT up and do a bit of positioning as well. The problem I've had with the game is that you get new skills and abilities so slowly. It does ramp up to more funsies, but the early game is abysmally simple. Edit: While I'm on it, early game quests also suck. "Go to the forest and kill a bunch of lady bugs and squirrels". Fuck you Square!!! | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On September 06 2013 03:19 aTnClouD wrote: I have delayed response on a 800 ms average. It might be due to your IPS routing to particular network >.< Sucks for you but you are still making great progress! | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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ragz_gt
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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