Wrong Mr. Ubisoft PR-Guy. It is just pressing Q to disable/enable stuff.
Alright, no reason to hate on a game without giving sufficient arguments to do so, especially on a game that isn't officially out yet, but I think it's cool that you can blow stuff up, create cover, hover around an area using cameras and being sneaky (something which other open world games like GTA/SR certainly lack). And that's not just mindlessly pressing Q.
On May 27 2014 01:51 Ethenielle wrote: Whereas you're praising a game that isn't out yet...
I'm basing it on what I've seen and read from reputable sources and players, and I like what I'm seeing. You don't need to ''play'' a game to know what features it has and how cool those features are. How they play out, sure, but to know of their existance, you don't need to play at all.
Bought the game and so far i feel its a great game in every aspect except as a "car" driving game. The premise of alot of missions require you to outrun something in the streets of fake Chicago and the roads are extremly bumpy and makes your car go airborne at even modest speeds and not to mention the fact that you have to drive the cars realisticly (so no speeds in corners at all, unless you want to murder three people, a lamp post and two cars everytime you do it) and that just makes it a very frustrating experience overall.
There is the option of going with motorcycles that just ignores all of that and handles like a car straight out of an arcade game but you cant allways do that as missions dictate you to drive different cars.
Everything else is super fun.
Oh and one more thing that is just extremly dumb.. is that you can raise guard rails to smash chasing police cars and such but doing so spins the camera around to look at the carnage in slow motion all the while the entire world is continuing (it isnt paused) so if this happens in a corner or.. your not dead straight on the road.. your mowing down people, hitting lampposts or smashing into cars before the camera returns to its regular position and you can actualy see where your going.
TL:DR: Wicked sick game, everything that sets it apart from GTA is awsome as all hell everything it has in common is very lacking (aka the city layout, the cars)
[got my copy a day early from gamestop pre'order if someone is confused]
@above: I think most of what you're mentioning is more of a controls issue. The "look back in slow motion" for example is a non-issue when using a controller, if you let go of the right stick it turns back quickly enough. If using a mouse what happens is if you make any motion at all it pretends you put the camera there on purpose and now have to turn it back (aka crash into shit).
Also speed in corners and stuff like that feels like an almost impossible challenge with m+kb but then is possible reasonably with a controller.
This is the one thing that annoys the hell out of me with this game. Compared to e.g. Batman or Assassins Creed controller feels crappy for lots of situations (shooting, swapping between cameras and stuff) but on the other hand keyboard feels crappy when driving. Hell, I end up stuck in cover when I don't want to with kb+m all the time but it never seems to happen with a controller.
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote: SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.
The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?
It's not amazing, it's not trash either.
It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA. GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.
In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.
Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.
sounds like Assasins Creed. Getting somewhere, unlock the map, do all the quests which are always pretty similar etc.
yes i got that impression too from tuning into a twitch stream. The entire UI feels so much like assassins creed that it already killed my entire desire to try out. Im just so very sick of the same old assassins creed concept that i want to throw up.
Really looks like it was a mod for assassins creed
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote: SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.
The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?
It's not amazing, it's not trash either.
It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA. GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.
In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.
Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.
sounds like Assasins Creed. Getting somewhere, unlock the map, do all the quests which are always pretty similar etc.
yes i got that impression too from tuning into a twitch stream. The entire UI feels so much like assassins creed that it already killed my entire desire to try out. Im just so very sick of the same old assassins creed concept that i want to throw up.
Really looks like it was a mod for assassins creed
It honestly doesn't feel like that for me. The features that feel similar are very few (hacking a new CTOS site = eaaaaaaaaaaglevision) and different enough to only be around for a short chuckle here and there. Your average fight against stationary installation is doing as much damage as you can without being seen and then trying to finish off the rest with guns or melee (which is rather scary since you basically die in 2-3 hits on hard difficulty). I think you can do most things without ever being noticed but that can get kind of hard.
people expect this game to be like some kinda classic masterpiece when it comes out and are dissapointed when its not perfect. after playing this game id give it about a 7/10 its a fun open world game and so far i find the storyline interesting enough.
just play the game and enjoy it, stop worrying about every flaw
On May 27 2014 09:24 Kojak21 wrote: people expect this game to be like some kinda classic masterpiece when it comes out and are dissapointed when its not perfect. after playing this game id give it about a 7/10 its a fun open world game and so far i find the storyline interesting enough.
just play the game and enjoy it, stop worrying about every flaw
Yeah, pretty much agree here. If your expectations are too high, it can make the game feel worse than it really is. Its a fun game, that's all there is to it for me, its not the show stopper some of us may have wanted, but that doesn't diminish the fact that I am still having fun playing this game.
I'm enjoying it so far. Its VERY Ubisoft, which is not necessarily a bad thing, Far Cry 3 is awesome, and I haven't really played much of AC so i'm not too bored of that style yet. Some of the design decisions are way off, but its fun. I expected more of a serious game than this, but its really just a playground, and a pretty fun one at that.
edit: 29:30 for TB using framerate as an excuse for terrible aim
My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.
On May 27 2014 18:33 rebuffering wrote: My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.
Yeah its designed for gamepad. I'm gonna have to work on my gamepad aim, which right now is fucking awful.
On May 27 2014 18:33 rebuffering wrote: My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.
Yeah its designed for gamepad. I'm gonna have to work on my gamepad aim, which right now is fucking awful.
Lol same here, upgrading the Slow-Mo shit is pretty useful because of that, im definitely not as good at aiming compared to my Halo 3 days. God i miss halo...
On May 27 2014 18:18 Jockmcplop wrote:Far Cry 3 is awesome
How would you compare WatchDog and Farcry 3 (real question)? Because i played 10minutes of FarCry 3 and uninstalled. An exploration game where you can't save where you want and when you can finally save, puts you at a checkpoint when you load is NOT acceptable. Imagine everytime you load your Skyrim save you get back to whiterun. (Also the menu were the worst of a console port).
Are people enjoying watch dog playing on console or PC ? (real question).
So you have to play with a gamepad on PC ? What the holy motherfucking fuck is that ?
On May 27 2014 18:18 Jockmcplop wrote:Far Cry 3 is awesome
How would you compare WatchDog and Farcry 3 (real question)? Because i played 10minutes of FarCry 3 and uninstalled. An exploration game where you can't save where you want and when you can finally save, puts you at a checkpoint when you load is NOT acceptable. Imagine everytime you load your Skyrim save you get back to whiterun. (Also the menu were the worst of a console port).
Are people enjoying watch dog playing on console or PC ? (real question).
So you have to play with a gamepad on PC ? What the holy motherfucking fuck is that ?
So i guess no buy for me
Watch Dogs is checkpoint saving i'm afraid. The concept is similar to both AC and Far Cry, an open world where you go around doing what you want (within very strict categories - interrupting crimes, hacking phones for money, pissing off cops or doing the story), packed with content but quite limited gamplay.
And you don't have to play with gamepad, but the controls are alot smoother and make more sense. The game is designed for gamepad and ported to m/kbd for sure.
The graphics are really nice, good level of detail, but as TB says in the review, the pop in is ridiculous. I can't believe they think that's ok on a PC.
Another plus point is the city itself, which feels really alive and responsive.
And yes, the menus are fucking horrible. Console port all the way.
I still really enjoy it, but it isn't half the game i thought it would be.
The main character is too serious. At least in Far Cry 3 there was some acknowledgement of how psychopathic your actions are, and that the main character was going through it just having a a laugh at how fun explosions, flamethrower and fields full of weed are. In watch dogs, you do some equally horrific stuff, but the vigliante angle is much harder to swallow.
There's alot of stuff you have to ignore to enjoy this game luckily for me i'm good at selectively ignoring stuff.
If you look around at reviews, they vary from very low to very high scores, and i don't believe that's just because some reviewers are paid off. Jim Sterling, my favourite reviewer from the Escapist, gave it 9/10, but Eurogamer gave it a horrible review, as did RockPaperShotgun. I wouldn't advise you to buy it if you aren't into the whole sandbox gameplay experience ala AC/Farcry though, because its definitely that crossed with GTA.
Well FarCry 3 story is decent (i couldn't play but as everyone said he was the most awesome game i watched a let's play).
Thanks a lot for your input. I'll wait a little, watch some gameplay and the TB vid and i'll advise. Thanks for you constructive response, i thought i was maybe a little flammy That's my inner french i have to critisize (Why why can't i prevent myself to do that ?!)
But i think i'll pass. Checkpoint in 2014 just makes me wanna pukes depending on how they are handled (Checkpoints in Tomb Raider was pretty nice handled).
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