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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 11 2014 05:01 GMT
#1021
Dang, beta just ended. Played two full weekends of beta, and the game is so fun!!!! ARHGHIAHIGHJDG

Can't wait til it launches.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11510 Posts
February 11 2014 05:16 GMT
#1022
On February 11 2014 12:55 hzflank wrote:
Yeah the worse thing about this game is all the Elder Scrolls fans!

I have never played an Elder Scrolls game so am only judging this as an mmo, and it better than I was expecting.


But people get baited into it by calling the games mmoRPGs, and in the case of WoW having actual RP servers (where noone ever RPs, because noone reacts to people RPing).

As someone who enjoys PnP RPGs, i always found it annoying how noone on the RP server i joined ever RPd. I learned to accept it and simply not do it myself either, but i still think that an MMORPG in which people actually immerse themselves and try to act in character would be simply amazing. Sadly that will never happen, because a lot of people are incapable of grasping the concept of actually playing a character instead of using the ingame character as an extension of yourself, and sadly those same people are also incapable of NOT joining an RP server even when there are 3 RP servers and 50 non-RP servers. And they are incapable of NOT interfering with people who try to RP by jumping around them shouting LOLOLOLOL.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 11 2014 06:08 GMT
#1023
On February 11 2014 14:01 Chairman Ray wrote:
Dang, beta just ended. Played two full weekends of beta, and the game is so fun!!!! ARHGHIAHIGHJDG

Can't wait til it launches.


I know I pre-ordered and am pumped as shit :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
February 11 2014 06:24 GMT
#1024
On February 11 2014 14:16 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 12:55 hzflank wrote:
Yeah the worse thing about this game is all the Elder Scrolls fans!

I have never played an Elder Scrolls game so am only judging this as an mmo, and it better than I was expecting.


But people get baited into it by calling the games mmoRPGs, and in the case of WoW having actual RP servers (where noone ever RPs, because noone reacts to people RPing).

As someone who enjoys PnP RPGs, i always found it annoying how noone on the RP server i joined ever RPd. I learned to accept it and simply not do it myself either, but i still think that an MMORPG in which people actually immerse themselves and try to act in character would be simply amazing. Sadly that will never happen, because a lot of people are incapable of grasping the concept of actually playing a character instead of using the ingame character as an extension of yourself, and sadly those same people are also incapable of NOT joining an RP server even when there are 3 RP servers and 50 non-RP servers. And they are incapable of NOT interfering with people who try to RP by jumping around them shouting LOLOLOLOL.


They just need to have the balls to force people to RP on RP servers and to not break character. Make the disclaimer so huge when joining an RP server that people can't cop out and claim ignorance.

If people don't RP then forcibly remove them from the server and put them on another one of their choice.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 11 2014 08:08 GMT
#1025
DAoC's Rp server was pretty freaking strict and moderated. I mean they made me change my hib elf rangers name Parnthalos(not elfy enoughI dunno..) back in the day. Major props to those guys for giving a damn but at this day and age trying to force people to rp on rp servers is akin to trying to stop a flood with a bucket. Not to mention the types of rp you can find that most would find.. questionable(The things I've read in user profiles on moonguard can turn a mans stomach yo)

I know UO used to have solid rp communities hell even some of the scumbag thieves and pkers on occasion where entertaining in a rp kinda way. Man, people too serious to just say fuck it and play the inner bard khajiit they want to be.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 09:59:08
February 11 2014 09:49 GMT
#1026
As someone who played most of TBC on a RP server, I have to say the rules were enforced quite well by both Blizzard employees and the players themselves. I've had guildies be forced in a namechange and I myself had to come up with a nice explanation for my warlock's name at the time. Not to mention anyone who tried to interrupt roleplaying (even if it was just talking on /2) in a non-RP manner was told to gtfo and ignored if he/she continued. Having a smashed warrior suddenly rush in, get naked and start /yelling at people was all right, and breaking charater had to be done with a good reason.

In the end it mostly comes down to the community. It is no doubt it has gotten worse.

Still ESO has so much potential. The game is really immersive if you know a little of the vast Elder Scrolls background.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4729 Posts
February 11 2014 12:45 GMT
#1027
On February 11 2014 14:16 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 12:55 hzflank wrote:
Yeah the worse thing about this game is all the Elder Scrolls fans!

I have never played an Elder Scrolls game so am only judging this as an mmo, and it better than I was expecting.


But people get baited into it by calling the games mmoRPGs, and in the case of WoW having actual RP servers (where noone ever RPs, because noone reacts to people RPing).

As someone who enjoys PnP RPGs, i always found it annoying how noone on the RP server i joined ever RPd. I learned to accept it and simply not do it myself either, but i still think that an MMORPG in which people actually immerse themselves and try to act in character would be simply amazing. Sadly that will never happen, because a lot of people are incapable of grasping the concept of actually playing a character instead of using the ingame character as an extension of yourself, and sadly those same people are also incapable of NOT joining an RP server even when there are 3 RP servers and 50 non-RP servers. And they are incapable of NOT interfering with people who try to RP by jumping around them shouting LOLOLOLOL.


Role Playing works only on small dedicated servers/games with selected people. Personaly ( i am a guy who plays PnP RPG and LARPs since like 15 years) i dont play MMO for roleplaying part. I play it for pvp for the challange, to be best and beat the shit out of Your enemies. If You want good Role Playing experience big servers are NO NO. Just choose something small where dedicated group of people spends their time that way.
Sad truth is, You have to put a lot of effort in good role playing, effrort that could be put into being better at the game. So its a choice between being competitive and good roleplaying.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
February 11 2014 12:49 GMT
#1028
On February 11 2014 10:34 fmod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 10:32 Manit0u wrote:
Can you play thief in this game like you could in Morrowind? As in, avoid all combat and just go about breaking in, casing, poaching, stealing and stuff?


lol no


Not for me then.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
February 11 2014 22:59 GMT
#1029
Played a bit during the 2nd beta weekend and concluded this game won't be for me. PvE fights are alright if your into that thing. Uninstalled and won't be buying/preordering.

Basically, if you want a cool generic MMO PvE experience in the Elder Scrolls setting then you should have fun! Not suited for anything else.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
February 11 2014 23:11 GMT
#1030
On February 11 2014 17:08 Parnage wrote:
DAoC's Rp server was pretty freaking strict and moderated. I mean they made me change my hib elf rangers name Parnthalos(not elfy enoughI dunno..) back in the day. Major props to those guys for giving a damn but at this day and age trying to force people to rp on rp servers is akin to trying to stop a flood with a bucket. Not to mention the types of rp you can find that most would find.. questionable(The things I've read in user profiles on moonguard can turn a mans stomach yo)

I know UO used to have solid rp communities hell even some of the scumbag thieves and pkers on occasion where entertaining in a rp kinda way. Man, people too serious to just say fuck it and play the inner bard khajiit they want to be.


In UO GMs would often oversee character interactions and reward you with exp and stuff if your RP was good.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 12 2014 00:10 GMT
#1031
I think I will never grasp how people can be serious while RPing. I would just start laughing after 5min
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
February 12 2014 00:30 GMT
#1032
On February 12 2014 09:10 Skilledblob wrote:
I think I will never grasp how people can be serious while RPing. I would just start laughing after 5min


It's like an actor who isn't acting for an audience but with other actors. Terrible thought, can't imagine that either.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11510 Posts
February 12 2014 00:39 GMT
#1033
Probably because you have only seen really bad roleplayers, either the ridiculous power fantasy guys "I am the vampire king of everything anywhere" (Pretty much 90% of the "roleplayers" in MMOs), or the sex fantasy guys who play half naked elf chicks hanging around taverns all day long.

If you have a small amount of creativity, it is pretty easy to immerse yourself into a character, as long as you don't take yourself too serious (which is where this need to start laughing usually originates from, the need to assert yourself that you can obviously not do something as silly as trying to act like a fictional person). True, i am talking mostly about PnP games, but it should also be possible in an MMO especially if that MMO is actually designed in a way that encourages RP instead of going out of its way to avoid it.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 12 2014 01:08 GMT
#1034
On February 12 2014 09:39 Simberto wrote:
or the sex fantasy guys who play half naked elf chicks hanging around taverns all day long.


Don't judge me
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 12 2014 01:11 GMT
#1035
I have a guilty pleasure of ruining people's roleplays.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
February 12 2014 16:36 GMT
#1036
"I killed you with my ninja star."

"No you didn't. I blocked it with my bo."

"No, my ninja star was faster."

"But I was doing the spinning bo move."

Being 7 years old again!
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
February 15 2014 21:41 GMT
#1037
Here are the racial skills of the Imperials, according to ESOHead:

Conditioning - Increases Max Stamina by 4%

Red Diamond - Melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 2 Health

Shield Affinity - Increases experience gained with the One-Handed and Shield Skill Line by 15%

Tough - Increases Max Health by 4%

Doesn't look like anything game-breaking, but well, same old thing applies with the pay wall.
I like words.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 15 2014 21:43 GMT
#1038
They also removed NDA for ESO as well.
When I think of something else, something will go here
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
February 15 2014 21:56 GMT
#1039
On February 11 2014 18:49 akatama wrote:
As someone who played most of TBC on a RP server, I have to say the rules were enforced quite well by both Blizzard employees and the players themselves. I've had guildies be forced in a namechange and I myself had to come up with a nice explanation for my warlock's name at the time. Not to mention anyone who tried to interrupt roleplaying (even if it was just talking on /2) in a non-RP manner was told to gtfo and ignored if he/she continued. Having a smashed warrior suddenly rush in, get naked and start /yelling at people was all right, and breaking charater had to be done with a good reason.

In the end it mostly comes down to the community. It is no doubt it has gotten worse.

Still ESO has so much potential. The game is really immersive if you know a little of the vast Elder Scrolls background.




Some of the shit in ESO completely violates Elder Scrolls lore. That's why alot of hardcore ES fans hate it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 15 2014 22:08 GMT
#1040
On February 16 2014 06:43 blade55555 wrote:
They also removed NDA for ESO as well.

Not really. They removed the NDA on the beta stress tests. The actual 24/7 closed beta is still under NDA.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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