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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 20:03:38
March 26 2014 20:03 GMT
#2921
On March 27 2014 04:59 Rayeth wrote:
I heartily recommend investing in stats over weapons at low levels. Once you have some decent points in your stats the souls spent on upgrading the weapons will matter a lot more.


will do. Imma start raising my dex again from now on.

max level is 200 right? any of u guys reach 200?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 20:08:07
March 26 2014 20:07 GMT
#2922
dont worry about that, there is no reason whatsoever to get anywhere near that level unless your a really hardcore pvper
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 26 2014 20:12 GMT
#2923
also- stat scaling after 40~ suffers from SEVERE diminishing returns, so there is not much point raising a single stat much further then that.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 26 2014 20:12 GMT
#2924
On March 27 2014 05:07 PassiveAce wrote:
dont worry about that, there is no reason whatsoever to get anywhere near that level unless your a really hardcore pvper


thank you, this game is very addicting.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 20:15:20
March 26 2014 20:14 GMT
#2925
On March 27 2014 04:52 Golgotha wrote:
Btw, I am confused about what weapon I should use. I am dex based build with little str. I have the drake sword and it does 200 damage. It is currently the most powerful one that I can fully use. But people are telling me to go for Uchiganata or the Claymore (I have both). However, they do a ALOT less damage than my drake. So I do not understand when people tell me to switch weapons. Thank you!

My favourite Dex weapon is the balder side sword. Its a lot more powerful than the drake sword if you upgrade it just a little and has an awesome moveset.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#2926
oh and I should explain the way I got so many souls; it is very simple. you go to darkroot and open the door using the crest of artorias. there will be 4 NPCs inside the new area. You get them to chase you and they will jump off a cliff. 9k souls. the best thing is there is a bonfire right next to the cliff they jump off at...so u can do this again and again. I can get 100k in less than 30 minutes. so if u ever need to grind for something and want it quickly, do this! there is another better way to get souls, but I havent reached it yet.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
March 26 2014 21:15 GMT
#2927
The reason the Drake Sword is a "newbie trap" is because it does high base damage (200), making it very powerful for when you get it, but its scaling is intentionally poor. Usually a weapon will increase in power by 10% with each upgrade, but the Drake Sword only increases in power by 0.5% per upgrade AND requires very rare Dragon Scales. Additionally, it has no stat scaling, which is what allows weaker weapons to become viable.

Aside from the Drake Sword, pretty much all the weapons in the game are balanced at max stats and upgrades. Some deal more damage per hit but are slower, some deal less damage but have secondary effects like bleed or poison. Some have special moveset characteristics (the Channeler's Trident casts a buff as its two-handed strong attack, Havel's Greatshield casts a defensive buff instead of a shield bash, and so on), some have extra bonus damage on backstabs/ripostes, some prevent undead resurrection. There are so many different options and they each have strengths and weaknesses.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 27 2014 00:36 GMT
#2928
On March 27 2014 05:14 Yrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 04:52 Golgotha wrote:
Btw, I am confused about what weapon I should use. I am dex based build with little str. I have the drake sword and it does 200 damage. It is currently the most powerful one that I can fully use. But people are telling me to go for Uchiganata or the Claymore (I have both). However, they do a ALOT less damage than my drake. So I do not understand when people tell me to switch weapons. Thank you!

My favourite Dex weapon is the balder side sword. Its a lot more powerful than the drake sword if you upgrade it just a little and has an awesome moveset.

Agree, BSS was the first weapon I fell in love within DS.

A big reason why people recommend you to switch weapons is just so you can see different movesets and figure out what you like. Otherwise people end up using Drake Sword -> Lightning Spear and then they have no clue what they actually like when both of those feel like crap. You can literally just play around, see what moveset suits you and then be confident that the weapon will scale well enough until the very end.

Personally, if this is your first playthrough, I recommend so called "quality builds" just to be able to see the most in one go. Idea is that you get your str/dex up to at least 28/40 (40/40 is perfectly fine as well) just so you can handle most weapons in the game at least two-handed and just instantly pick something up and smack some heads in with it.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11714 Posts
March 27 2014 00:51 GMT
#2929
Very important: Don't neglect Endurance or Vitality. They are pretty important to make everything easier. More gear, more blocking, more life.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
March 27 2014 00:54 GMT
#2930
ghahh the last boss on ng+ is kinda rough, the parry timing can be a bit tricky and using healing potions after parry-attack is impossible, my beloved parry dagger!
Barackopala
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 01:07:21
March 27 2014 01:06 GMT
#2931
On March 27 2014 09:36 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 05:14 Yrr wrote:
On March 27 2014 04:52 Golgotha wrote:
Btw, I am confused about what weapon I should use. I am dex based build with little str. I have the drake sword and it does 200 damage. It is currently the most powerful one that I can fully use. But people are telling me to go for Uchiganata or the Claymore (I have both). However, they do a ALOT less damage than my drake. So I do not understand when people tell me to switch weapons. Thank you!

My favourite Dex weapon is the balder side sword. Its a lot more powerful than the drake sword if you upgrade it just a little and has an awesome moveset.

Agree, BSS was the first weapon I fell in love within DS.

A big reason why people recommend you to switch weapons is just so you can see different movesets and figure out what you like. Otherwise people end up using Drake Sword -> Lightning Spear and then they have no clue what they actually like when both of those feel like crap. You can literally just play around, see what moveset suits you and then be confident that the weapon will scale well enough until the very end.

Personally, if this is your first playthrough, I recommend so called "quality builds" just to be able to see the most in one go. Idea is that you get your str/dex up to at least 28/40 (40/40 is perfectly fine as well) just so you can handle most weapons in the game at least two-handed and just instantly pick something up and smack some heads in with it.

I've never really supported this, simply because "just picking up and using" a weapon is never practical since everything will feel terrible when not upgraded. By the time you're far enough in to pick up something new and interesting after using something for a while, that first something you're holding will probably (SHOULD) have significant upgrades or an elemental path, in which case the stock weapon you test out will always feel rough. Sure it's a good way to test the move set, but it's the same reason people think the drake sword is so good, just because when STOCK, everything else does less damage. That quickly reverses after a solid +5 and especially +10/ele upgrades on the "normal" weapons
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
March 27 2014 01:32 GMT
#2932
Btw. do you guys know about this webpage: http://darksoulsdeaths.com/

Welcome to Dark Souls Deaths! Upload a save file from Dark Souls to see how many times you've died.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
March 28 2014 15:00 GMT
#2933
On March 27 2014 05:03 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 04:59 Rayeth wrote:
I heartily recommend investing in stats over weapons at low levels. Once you have some decent points in your stats the souls spent on upgrading the weapons will matter a lot more.


will do. Imma start raising my dex again from now on.

max level is 200 right? any of u guys reach 200?


Max level is actually closer to 700. Max level is when all of your stats have hit 99, so it varies based on starting class. Most chars don't level past 90-140 range for basic mainstat+vit+end builds (140 build being someone that probably has 2 mainstats and can do pretty much anything).
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 28 2014 18:22 GMT
#2934
On March 29 2014 00:00 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 05:03 Golgotha wrote:
On March 27 2014 04:59 Rayeth wrote:
I heartily recommend investing in stats over weapons at low levels. Once you have some decent points in your stats the souls spent on upgrading the weapons will matter a lot more.


will do. Imma start raising my dex again from now on.

max level is 200 right? any of u guys reach 200?


Max level is actually closer to 700. Max level is when all of your stats have hit 99, so it varies based on starting class. Most chars don't level past 90-140 range for basic mainstat+vit+end builds (140 build being someone that probably has 2 mainstats and can do pretty much anything).

For PvP the SL goal used to be 125 for PS3/XBOX and 120 for PC. If you don't care about PvP it doesn't matter, I recommend using your first char to level everything and try out stuff.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ManniBender
Profile Joined February 2014
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 13:28:00
April 04 2014 06:58 GMT
#2935
I beat the Game yesterday. And all started with me wanting to "try out the controls" to pepare for DS2, lol. The start was very hard, but the Game had a breakpoint where it got so much easier. After Ornstein and Smough, when I got my shiny gold Ornstein Armor and my Uchigata+15 ...everything went down so fast. Killed Seath and the 4 Kings both first Try.
The most annoying part of the Game was all the enviroment: Tomb of the Giants where you could not see the Hand before your Eye, Sen's Fortress where I died like 15 times or fucking Blighttown. -_-

37hrs and a Level80 Char is enough prep for DS2 for now, I guess. Too bad I played the first Half of the Game in 30fps and without HD Textures. The Game is 10 times better in 60fps.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 04 2014 07:29 GMT
#2936
What mods/fixes do you need to play it on 60 fps?
WriterXiao8~~
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 04 2014 08:51 GMT
#2937
You have to install DSFix and then edit the DSfix.ini file.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
April 04 2014 17:06 GMT
#2938
On April 04 2014 16:29 Kipsate wrote:
What mods/fixes do you need to play it on 60 fps?


There are ramifications though, since the game is structured like a fighting game with a fixed framerate, hitboxes, and invulnerability frames for things like rolling. It's possible that DSFix just doubles everything, but you never know whether there will be gaps. I never played the 60fps mode for that reason.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
April 04 2014 17:48 GMT
#2939
Welp, apparently GFWL stopped saving my games.
I got a first try BKH and had to quit because I missed killing a lizard. When I go back to load the save file, it simply isn't there.
GG, RIP first try BKH.
ManniBender
Profile Joined February 2014
81 Posts
April 06 2014 17:09 GMT
#2940
I'm playing a little NG+ now and want to try out some other weapons. But whats the Deal with Magic Weapons. I feel like they are all bad, because you lose your Dex/Str Scaling.
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