On March 23 2014 02:31 ManniBender wrote: Its funny, I just got into Dark Souls 1 after quitting it the first time after 30minutes. I really got hyped about DS2 and wanted to learn the Controls again before DS2 comes out late April. And now I just beat the Sewer-Dragonthingy before Blighttown. That Boss wasn't even that hard, the hardest part was that I fell down some hole and got cursed. I was scarred as fuck as I saw these big-eye things and had to google how to fix that. I guess my Level34 is kinda high for that part of the Game, I failed alot at the start so I got alot of Souls to level up early.
But I'm so lost when it comes to equipment and gear. I googled that Katanas are a good Dex Weapon and thats basically it, what I know when it comes to my "Build". I now have my Dragonsword and my Katana +5 and that shows how good the Combat system is. With the new Weapon the Combat feels completly different. But I feel forced to google for everything, because the Game tells you not alot. And boy can't I wait for the Teleport feature in DS2, its so annoying when you clear half of the Map and then die and spawn in the Depth again. -_-
And probably the worst thing is, the Game forces me to play it Cracked, because I can't be bothered with GFWL (what is dead already!). So I guess no online features for me.
I was in the exact situation you were. Bought the game because I read some really good reviews of it, played it a while and pretty much threw it aside. A few months later I came back to it, but not before watching some youtube videos on how input works in DS (i.e. One press = one action, so if you smash buttons, your character will actually perform those actions). Once I got that figured out, and read up on some of the lore and where to find good items, the game pretty much opened up to me. It still had its cheap parts, but I really like the fact that it expects you to use everything you can find to fight your way through victory. You cannot just rely on just one weapon and hope to smash your way through everything. You've got black firebombs? Use them. Goldpine Resin? Use it, don't save it for a rainy day. Bow and arrows? Same again, even if you are not a ranged class. The game doesn't really allow you to fully specialise in one thing if you want to make it through the game. If you do, you will end up plain handicapped during some parts.
On March 23 2014 02:31 ManniBender wrote: Its funny, I just got into Dark Souls 1 after quitting it the first time after 30minutes. I really got hyped about DS2 and wanted to learn the Controls again before DS2 comes out late April. And now I just beat the Sewer-Dragonthingy before Blighttown. That Boss wasn't even that hard, the hardest part was that I fell down some hole and got cursed. I was scarred as fuck as I saw these big-eye things and had to google how to fix that. I guess my Level34 is kinda high for that part of the Game, I failed alot at the start so I got alot of Souls to level up early.
But I'm so lost when it comes to equipment and gear. I googled that Katanas are a good Dex Weapon and thats basically it, what I know when it comes to my "Build". I now have my Dragonsword and my Katana +5 and that shows how good the Combat system is. With the new Weapon the Combat feels completly different. But I feel forced to google for everything, because the Game tells you not alot. And boy can't I wait for the Teleport feature in DS2, its so annoying when you clear half of the Map and then die and spawn in the Depth again. -_-
And probably the worst thing is, the Game forces me to play it Cracked, because I can't be bothered with GFWL (what is dead already!). So I guess no online features for me.
For equipement. Basically all (melee) weapons are viable. The biggest thing you should check is which one has the best move set for you based on reach/speed/direction. Then just remember that most big and slow weapons hit hard but are very slow to swing, and I wouldn't recommend them for a first playthrough.
Then each weapon has required stats so it may influence which one you'll play with too. Remember that if you take the weapon in both hands you have 50% more strength for wielding weapons so with 20 strength you can wield a 30strength weapon in 2Hands with no penalty.
Then there is scaling. Each weapon scale differently on your stats. How well is represented by a letter (S A B C D E). So if you put a lot in dex you'll want a B and above scaling in dex. This scaling letter is available in the details section of a weapon. Uchigatana are therefore a good dex weapon.
Finally there is forging. Each (common) weapon can be upgraded normally from +1 to +15 (not uniques and already magic one however). At +5 and +10 you'll have to ascend the weapon (to specialize it and drastically modify it if you will). To be able to ascend you will need Embers that are found at diverse places in the world. What you must understand is that you basically want to chose between a normal weapon and a "magic" one. Normal upgrades go from 1 to 15 while magic upgrades go from 1 to 10 (1 to 5 for lightning). To make a magic weapon you must put it at +5 normal first (or +10 if you want ligtning).
Normal weapons: -They scale the best with stats. So if your build has a lot of dex/stength you'll want a normal weapon upgraded to +15. -These weapons, before good levels of dex/str have a lower damage output than their magic counterparts BUT you can use a buff on them making it temporarily way stronger
Magic weapons: -If you chose divine or magic route you'll have a weapon that scales with Faith or Intel instead and which also add magic damage to the weapon. -If you chose fire or lightning you basically remove the scaling of the weapon and get a flat damage. However it means you do not need more strength or dexterity and you'll be free to put those in other stats.
For example now that you have a Katana +5 you will want to ascend it. You then have a choice between chosing the normal route and going to Katana +10 or you can chose to make a Divine Katana for example and then upgrade it up to Divine Katana +5 and then +10 later. You will need the corresponding embers to be able to do either.
Hope that helps. For example if you look at the details of your weapons you'll see that the drake sword is a magic weapon (a low one) which doesn't scale with anything, but the flat damage it does is good for the first areas of the game. Your katana on the other hand scales and is also easily upgradable at the blacksmith making a better choice at some point.
Edit: For armor it's really easy to understand. You'll have first to decide how agile you want to be. You have three choice a "fast-roll" which is being below 25% max burden, a mid roll between 25%-50% and a fat roll above 50%. The idea is simple, the heavier you are the more hits you'll take/blocks and you'll compensate with a high defense value. Or you could chose a fast roll with a "light" armor and dodge most attacks. To increase your max burden you must find magic rings or increase the endurance stat. Either way you'll usually pick the most defensive armor in the weight range you want so carefully compare defensive to weight ratios and obviously you will want to be as close as possible to the upper limit of your agility range. Another important factor for armors are the magic/effects resistance. If you meet a boss that do fire damage you may consider putting the best fire resist armor.
Honestly resistances make very little difference considering how many elemental attacks are easily dodged. The key resistances in my mind are poison, curse, and bleed given that they can ruin you a lot more effectively. It's a little more difficult to ascertain the value of elemental resistances because you don't know offhand whether an attack will do 5%, 10%, 16.31634% less damage or whatever. For poison/curse/bleed you can see tangible results in that your ailment bar is twice, three times, four times, ten times as long.
There's also one "resist" that is important to consider, and that's Poise. Poise effectively operates as a hidden ailment bar much like poison/curse/bleed, except when it fills up you get staggered when struck. Many of the cloth or other light armors have zero poise whereas the light metal or heavy metal armors have a lot, meaning you can deal damage even when taking damage yourself.
On a similar note, if you've decided to use a shield, Stability and shield size are the two most important factors. Stability reduces the stamina hit when blocking an attack by a percentage equal to the stability rating, and upgrading your shield commonly increases this value further. That means that with high Stability, you can block more attacks for longer, or even block very heavy attacks that would ordinarily have crushed your guard. Shield size determines your parry timing/window (small and medium shields) or even whether your parry is replaced by a shield bash attack (greatshields). Greatshields can't parry anything, but they do cause more knockback across a wider range of attacks and typically have the highest Stability.
I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
On March 24 2014 15:35 Golgotha wrote: I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
Hahaha I also just startend and feel similar. The worst Moment so far was that I died 2 times in a row and then I get killed by other player. Turns out that I turned on pvp without knowing <.<
On a another note: how should I spend my souls? Stats ? If yes , do you guys have a guide for that? Or buy some items?
For example now that you have a Katana +5 you will want to ascend it. You then have a choice between chosing the normal route and going to Katana +10 or you can chose to make a Divine Katana for example and then upgrade it up to Divine Katana +5 and then +10 later. You will need the corresponding embers to be able to do either.
I did that yesterday. But the Divine Katana is only D on Dex-Scaling so I removed it again and its back to B. I know the basics, I think. I have the Havel-Ring that gives -50% equip-load so I'm always around 25-30% load, my Movement is no problem. The hardest part is the environtment, with all these traps and places to fall down into your death. I just finished Blighttown and WTF was this shit? First I tried to go in through the Old Londo Ruins => Drake Pass thing and well first I died like 5 times because I fell off something or got poisoned. Then after like 2 hours I just went through the Depth and made it to the Fire somehow. Good thing was I read about the Old Rusty Ring that I got after killing the Stray Demon, I had no idea that the Water is toxic, but after a Death I got it. Without it I would have died another 10-times But I think I spend at least 5 hours until I beat the Boss and got to the 2nd Bell.
I went to the Forest after that and killed that Butterfly (was that a really a Boss?) and got a shit ton of this Anti-Poison item. Well that would have been useful in Blighttown. -_- Now I'm stuck after the huge Gate in the Fortress. Too much traps in there. I feel like Indiana Jones, only that I get killed by that big rolling Rock. One time I got to the top where the Rock gets dropped down, but I dropped down a Lifthole and Ragequit! Its so hard to know where you have to go, there is always more than one way and most of them are just Traps.
At least I got way more into Dark Souls than I expected, I doubt I will finish it before DS2, but well some of the Bosses are really fun.
Before going for the boulder you'll see a serpent guy lying against a wall, go for him and fight him with your back against the wall while parrying, he will destroy the wall and then you'll find a way to open a shortcut from the bottom to there. If you're blocked, watch a video like this one
The guy with the wall I talk about is at 5mn40 in the video.
On March 24 2014 15:35 Golgotha wrote: I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
Hahaha I also just startend and feel similar. The worst Moment so far was that I died 2 times in a row and then I get killed by other player. Turns out that I turned on pvp without knowing <.<
On a another note: how should I spend my souls? Stats ? If yes , do you guys have a guide for that? Or buy some items?
You can be invaded if you are in human form. Stay hollow if you don't want to fight another player but mind that you can't summon help for boss fights while being hollowed.
Yes, you should spend your souls. How you spend them depends on your build. Give us more info and when can come up with some advice. I don't know how far you have progressed so far but there are some nice items that u can get right after you leave the undead asylum without fighting.
There is an elevator below Firelink Shrine that goes down to New Londo. Down there, you will see a wooden bridges that lead to an area with ghosts (you should not attempt to fight them yet). Follow the first two bridges and go to the right until you stand in front of a stone wall. Turn left and right again to get to the other side of the stone wall and follow another wooden bridge to find a firekeeper souls (upgrades your flask). Now head back to the entrance to the elevator but don't go up to Firelink Shrine just yet. Instead, go left (assuming you face the entrance to the elevator) and find a locked metal door. If you chose the master key as your starting gift you can open it already. Do so and cross the bridge, then go left until you see a sleeping dragon. He is guarding three items and he will awake as soon as you pick up one of the items between his legs. Pick them up quickly and let him kill you to get back to Firelink Shrine. There, go to the graveyard and just sprint along the pathways to find some items. At the end you will find a good sword called "zweihander" and if you turn right from that point and go up the hill a few meters you will find the "winged spear". The items help out in the very beginning and at least Zweihander is a viable end-game weapon itself when fully upgraded.
On March 24 2014 17:53 Shottaz wrote: Is it cheap to Sorcerer through the early game? Most of the bosses are easy kills with the Soul Arrow...
I think pyromancy is considered cheap, sorcery is also easy for some stuff I guess but pyro you can level up with a quality or other fighting oriented build as you level up the flame and not a stat like faith or int.
On February 26 2014 16:36 Lobotomist wrote: Got this on steam sale, installed and had to install games for windows live. Frustration number one. Then, I get GFWL installed, and it has to update. Frustration number two. Then the default mouse keyboard is way too sensitive and you can't adjust it, so I bought a 360 controller. Frustration number 3. Then, I get into the game, beat the asylum demon, and hit the npc by the fire where the bird drops you off. He now continually kills me when I respawn. I'm done. Not fun.
If the events in the asylum didn't teach you, here's some advice: Be careful and don't rush things, and expect shit to kill you. Attacking the NPC was pretty dumb, agreed? Not that he's even remotely hard to kill, but probably not a great idea to make enemies out of people a few meters from your current spawn.
Haha yeah, lesson learned there. There was a sign near him that said "try attacking" so i assumed...that it meant him. I fought him a couple times and i could parry/riposte him like 4 times and seemingly do no close to no damage. I'll probably start over and try again, we'll see. Good to hear they're getting rid of gfwl for DaS2. Now if ubisoft and ea will follow suit...(i can dream)
If someone tells you "Try jumping" in front of a cliff, would you do it? If yes, this game is perfect for you!
On March 24 2014 15:35 Golgotha wrote: I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
Hahaha I also just startend and feel similar. The worst Moment so far was that I died 2 times in a row and then I get killed by other player. Turns out that I turned on pvp without knowing <.<
On a another note: how should I spend my souls? Stats ? If yes , do you guys have a guide for that? Or buy some items?
You can be invaded if you are in human form. Stay hollow if you don't want to fight another player but mind that you can't summon help for boss fights while being hollowed.
Yes, you should spend your souls. How you spend them depends on your build. Give us more info and when can come up with some advice. I don't know how far you have progressed so far but there are some nice items that u can get right after you leave the undead asylum without fighting.
There is an elevator below Firelink Shrine that goes down to New Londo. Down there, you will see a wooden bridges that lead to an area with ghosts (you should not attempt to fight them yet). Follow the first two bridges and go to the right until you stand in front of a stone wall. Turn left and right again to get to the other side of the stone wall and follow another wooden bridge to find a firekeeper souls (upgrades your flask). Now head back to the entrance to the elevator but don't go up to Firelink Shrine just yet. Instead, go left (assuming you face the entrance to the elevator) and find a locked metal door. If you chose the master key as your starting gift you can open it already. Do so and cross the bridge, then go left until you see a sleeping dragon. He is guarding three items and he will awake as soon as you pick up one of the items between his legs. Pick them up quickly and let him kill you to get back to Firelink Shrine. There, go to the graveyard and just sprint along the pathways to find some items. At the end you will find a good sword called "zweihander" and if you turn right from that point and go up the hill a few meters you will find the "winged spear". The items help out in the very beginning and at least Zweihander is a viable end-game weapon itself when fully upgraded.
Thanks for the help!
I just started really, I am in the city of the undead(?)
I am a bandit and want to stay with the melee or physical road. (I hope this helps)
On March 24 2014 15:35 Golgotha wrote: I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
Hahaha I also just startend and feel similar. The worst Moment so far was that I died 2 times in a row and then I get killed by other player. Turns out that I turned on pvp without knowing <.<
On a another note: how should I spend my souls? Stats ? If yes , do you guys have a guide for that? Or buy some items?
You can be invaded if you are in human form. Stay hollow if you don't want to fight another player but mind that you can't summon help for boss fights while being hollowed.
Yes, you should spend your souls. How you spend them depends on your build. Give us more info and when can come up with some advice. I don't know how far you have progressed so far but there are some nice items that u can get right after you leave the undead asylum without fighting.
There is an elevator below Firelink Shrine that goes down to New Londo. Down there, you will see a wooden bridges that lead to an area with ghosts (you should not attempt to fight them yet). Follow the first two bridges and go to the right until you stand in front of a stone wall. Turn left and right again to get to the other side of the stone wall and follow another wooden bridge to find a firekeeper souls (upgrades your flask). Now head back to the entrance to the elevator but don't go up to Firelink Shrine just yet. Instead, go left (assuming you face the entrance to the elevator) and find a locked metal door. If you chose the master key as your starting gift you can open it already. Do so and cross the bridge, then go left until you see a sleeping dragon. He is guarding three items and he will awake as soon as you pick up one of the items between his legs. Pick them up quickly and let him kill you to get back to Firelink Shrine. There, go to the graveyard and just sprint along the pathways to find some items. At the end you will find a good sword called "zweihander" and if you turn right from that point and go up the hill a few meters you will find the "winged spear". The items help out in the very beginning and at least Zweihander is a viable end-game weapon itself when fully upgraded.
Thanks for the help!
I just started really, I am in the city of the undead(?)
I am a bandit and want to stay with the melee or physical road. (I hope this helps)
I am not exactly sure what you mean by city of the undead, whenever you enter a new area, the name will come up on the screen. After you escaped from the Undead Asylum (the starting area), the bird will drop you at the Firelink Shrine. Just go back there if you have trouble to determine your location. BTW: If you want to follow the intended progress path, the first area after Firelink Shrine is meant to be the "Undead Burg". You will get there by taking some stone steps leading uphill from the Firelink Shrine. If you see a skeleton throwing firebombs, you'll know you have headed the right way.
Stats-wise you'll have to make up your mind if you want to use strenght or dex weapons. Str weapons hit hard but are usually slow, dex weapons on the other hand are fast but deal a bit less damage. It's up to you. Keep in mind that the stats soft-cap at 40, meaning every point spent above 40 will be a lot less effective than every point before 40.
If you don't want to use magic (it's not necessary) then generally you want to raise vit,end + str/dex to 40. The order is up to you but keep in mind that weapons typically scale with either dex or str, so you might want to raise that stat a bit in the beginning. Endurance is also quite important because it raises your weight load (determines your dodge and movement speed) and stamina.
On March 24 2014 17:53 Shottaz wrote: Is it cheap to Sorcerer through the early game? Most of the bosses are easy kills with the Soul Arrow...
there is nothing cheap in Dark Souls, you use what works.
There is alot of stuff where I felt very cheap. Like jumpattacks on Bosses or Range-Abuse with a Bow. If I knew it before I would not have gotten the Dragonsword, made the early Game way too easy. :x
On March 24 2014 15:35 Golgotha wrote: I just started this game! u know what is funny? I fucking tilt more in this game than in SC. I have the longest death streaks and each death makes the next one worse and worse. I feel like I am in an abusive relationship.
Hahaha I also just startend and feel similar. The worst Moment so far was that I died 2 times in a row and then I get killed by other player. Turns out that I turned on pvp without knowing <.<
On a another note: how should I spend my souls? Stats ? If yes , do you guys have a guide for that? Or buy some items?
You can be invaded if you are in human form. Stay hollow if you don't want to fight another player but mind that you can't summon help for boss fights while being hollowed.
Yes, you should spend your souls. How you spend them depends on your build. Give us more info and when can come up with some advice. I don't know how far you have progressed so far but there are some nice items that u can get right after you leave the undead asylum without fighting.
There is an elevator below Firelink Shrine that goes down to New Londo. Down there, you will see a wooden bridges that lead to an area with ghosts (you should not attempt to fight them yet). Follow the first two bridges and go to the right until you stand in front of a stone wall. Turn left and right again to get to the other side of the stone wall and follow another wooden bridge to find a firekeeper souls (upgrades your flask). Now head back to the entrance to the elevator but don't go up to Firelink Shrine just yet. Instead, go left (assuming you face the entrance to the elevator) and find a locked metal door. If you chose the master key as your starting gift you can open it already. Do so and cross the bridge, then go left until you see a sleeping dragon. He is guarding three items and he will awake as soon as you pick up one of the items between his legs. Pick them up quickly and let him kill you to get back to Firelink Shrine. There, go to the graveyard and just sprint along the pathways to find some items. At the end you will find a good sword called "zweihander" and if you turn right from that point and go up the hill a few meters you will find the "winged spear". The items help out in the very beginning and at least Zweihander is a viable end-game weapon itself when fully upgraded.
Thanks for the help!
I just started really, I am in the city of the undead(?)
I am a bandit and want to stay with the melee or physical road. (I hope this helps)
I am not exactly sure what you mean by city of the undead, whenever you enter a new area, the name will come up on the screen. After you escaped from the Undead Asylum (the starting area), the bird will drop you at the Firelink Shrine. Just go back there if you have trouble to determine your location. BTW: If you want to follow the intended progress path, the first area after Firelink Shrine is meant to be the "Undead Burg". You will get there by taking some stone steps leading uphill from the Firelink Shrine. If you see a skeleton throwing firebombs, you'll know you have headed the right way.
Stats-wise you'll have to make up your mind if you want to use strenght or dex weapons. Str weapons hit hard but are usually slow, dex weapons on the other hand are fast but deal a bit less damage. It's up to you. Keep in mind that the stats soft-cap at 40, meaning every point spent above 40 will be a lot less effective than every point before 40.
If you don't want to use magic (it's not necessary) then generally you want to raise vit,end + str/dex to 40. The order is up to you but keep in mind that weapons typically scale with either dex or str, so you might want to raise that stat a bit in the beginning. Endurance is also quite important because it raises your weight load (determines your dodge and movement speed) and stamina.
Okay thanks! Got the zweihander and the dragon stuff (astora sword), the firesouls was too difficult for me to get without getting killed by the ghosts or drowning in the water <.< But I will try to up my faith to 14 to use the Astora's Straight Sword. The zweihander is a little bit too clumsy for my playstyle.
I am in the undead burg (its "Stadt der Untoten" in german so I thought it would be city of the undead)
Dunno, an undead burg would be pretty cool. Though i guess the question is how that happens. To be undead, the burg would need to be alive first, then die, and be raised again. At least those are classic undead, i guess DS undead are a bit different, more deathless then classically undead.
Anyways, i am imagining this horrific monstrosity made of rotting flesh and stone, slowly shifting and moving in utterly disgusting ways, always hungry, always consuming. Instead of a boring city full of undead. Boo.