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Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
February 12 2013 21:58 GMT
#2261
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 12 2013 22:01 GMT
#2262
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.


dex / faith dagger only
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
February 13 2013 00:55 GMT
#2263
dex builds are pretty fun. I practically play with crap armor (shadow armor to look like a ninja) so I'm flexible enough for a fast roll and carry a katana/scythe/claymore and dark silver tracers.

The problem is if I'm not careful or roll in time, I die.
Aiyeeeee
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
February 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#2264
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.

It's fun to do some random roleplaying. Maybe a swashbuckling scimitar dex build that flips around(I really like my painting guardian build personally), or a mace/axe cleric dedicated to making people see the light(at the end of the tunnel), or you could do an evil black knight pyromancer, or some kind of sorcerer (magical warrior or pure caster), perhaps even a master archer who eschews close combat. The chosen undead has so little history before he became chosen, so you can make whatever story you like with your character. There's so many ways to play the game, though if you don't want to use the non-str weapons too much a mage build might be a good way to go.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 13 2013 06:23 GMT
#2265
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.

Be the Belmont
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 08:14:47
February 13 2013 08:13 GMT
#2266
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.

what do you want to do with it? =)
pvp? just playin through?

anyways cmw dex or faith dex are the obvious answers.
another one would be specialising for 1 weapon like obsidian sword (which sucks btw,why did i ever start a pvp build around it ... give me my fucking claymore 1h r1 )
Treehead
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
999 Posts
February 13 2013 21:24 GMT
#2267
On February 13 2013 17:13 Caryc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.

what do you want to do with it? =)
pvp? just playin through?

anyways cmw dex or faith dex are the obvious answers.
another one would be specialising for 1 weapon like obsidian sword (which sucks btw,why did i ever start a pvp build around it ... give me my fucking claymore 1h r1 )


At this point, just playing through the PvE side of things. My reflexes aren't all there, so I'm not too excited about PvP yet (I've died to literally everyone who's invaded me). More or less, I'm just looking for different ways to play. I did a shield, light armor and a heavy weapon already. The game is also hard enough for me that I'm not at the point of handicapping myself like a few others suggested (unless playing with keyboard and mouse counts).
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
February 13 2013 22:17 GMT
#2268
On February 14 2013 06:24 Treehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:13 Caryc wrote:
On February 13 2013 06:58 Treehead wrote:
Any suggestions for new characters? My first stuck to STR-based weapons (which I love) and mostly light armor.

what do you want to do with it? =)
pvp? just playin through?

anyways cmw dex or faith dex are the obvious answers.
another one would be specialising for 1 weapon like obsidian sword (which sucks btw,why did i ever start a pvp build around it ... give me my fucking claymore 1h r1 )


At this point, just playing through the PvE side of things. My reflexes aren't all there, so I'm not too excited about PvP yet (I've died to literally everyone who's invaded me). More or less, I'm just looking for different ways to play. I did a shield, light armor and a heavy weapon already. The game is also hard enough for me that I'm not at the point of handicapping myself like a few others suggested (unless playing with keyboard and mouse counts).


In that case a build that focuses on one of the magic schools might be good. Sorceries and Pyromancies are both really strong PvE (not many offensive miracles but heal is nice), and are more about positioning and timing than straight reflexes, unlike a dex build which requires you to be fairly good with both reflexes and timing. PvP takes a lot of practice before you start to get the hang of it anyway, and str builds are probably the easiest for it as is, magic often leaves you vulnerable, though some of the spells are powerful enough to one-shot people, and dex builds often need a lot of extra hits to whittle people down. Dex builds might not be the challenge you are looking for, but Mage builds are pretty easy overall.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
February 28 2013 16:23 GMT
#2269
For anyone still interested in DS lore, but that doesn't want to do all the loreseeking you have to do by finding every item, character, and location in the game, I hadn't seen this lore series before.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWLedd0Zw3c5RCXboUsPwHsZJlXB2CzCz

It's a very well made series of videos telling some key points in the story, I just find the lore and the whole speculation you can make about it so awesome.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
April 12 2013 02:40 GMT
#2270
played Demon's Souls years ago when it was first released in the US and really loved the challenge and gameplay involved. Unfortunately to date I've not played Dark Souls at all. When I saw the new Dark Souls 2 footage I figured I better go back and play the first so that I'm familiar with the setting. My question is out of the ps3 and pc versions, which would be the better choice? I have a very solid PC and an Xbox controller with which to play if it makes a difference.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 12 2013 02:50 GMT
#2271
pc with dsfix http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?tag=dsfix with your xbox controller is the way to go if you want the best single player experience. if you want to have a more active pvp / summon scene ps3 is probably better.


graphics and FPS issues aren't an issue on PC but there is a little bit less 'community'.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11519 Posts
April 14 2013 04:02 GMT
#2272
Is the whole PvP part of this game just randomly added and horribly broken?

I just finished my first playthrough (during which i was mostly undead), and thought i'd try playing a different type of character. With the knowledge of the game and the skills i gained, i thought it would be a good idea to be alive for most of it. Now, i already got invaded twice by absurdly high leveled characters in undead burg so far, which were basically immortal to my attacks and oneshot me. But not only that, they also make me unable to leave the game or use bonfire for the long periods they just stand around laughing at me. One of them followed me around and kicked me whenever i engaged enemies until i noticed that i could actually hurt him with my bandits knife, at which point he was forced to kill me with one hit. This reliably happened within 5-10 minutes of me being alive.

So basically, is the only way to play this game to just always stay dead and just reverse that to kindle bonfires? And really, what exactly is even the point of that whole nonsense? It seems to be mostly there just so people can grief others after they have kindled a bonfire. I don't understand why this system is even there in a pure singleplayer game. Probably just to justify bullshit G4WL.

Is there any point to being alive at all other then if you want to get raped by people 50-100 levels ahead of you?
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 04:05:50
April 14 2013 04:04 GMT
#2273
On April 14 2013 13:02 Simberto wrote:
Is the whole PvP part of this game just randomly added and horribly broken?

I just finished my first playthrough (during which i was mostly undead), and thought i'd try playing a different type of character. With the knowledge of the game and the skills i gained, i thought it would be a good idea to be alive for most of it. Now, i already got invaded twice by absurdly high leveled characters in undead burg so far, which were basically immortal to my attacks and oneshot me. But not only that, they also make me unable to leave the game or use bonfire for the long periods they just stand around laughing at me. One of them followed me around and kicked me whenever i engaged enemies until i noticed that i could actually hurt him with my bandits knife, at which point he was forced to kill me with one hit. This reliably happened within 5-10 minutes of me being alive.

So basically, is the only way to play this game to just always stay dead and just reverse that to kindle bonfires? And really, what exactly is even the point of that whole nonsense? It seems to be mostly there just so people can grief others after they have kindled a bonfire. I don't understand why this system is even there in a pure singleplayer game. Probably just to justify bullshit G4WL.

Is there any point to being alive at all other then if you want to get raped by people 50-100 levels ahead of you?


You really don't need to be human except to get help from npcs or friends on boss fights. I think the ideal amount of humanity for magic find was like 10 so it's not super crucial to have a ton of it on reserve.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 14 2013 04:29 GMT
#2274
On April 14 2013 13:02 Simberto wrote:
Is the whole PvP part of this game just randomly added and horribly broken?

I just finished my first playthrough (during which i was mostly undead), and thought i'd try playing a different type of character. With the knowledge of the game and the skills i gained, i thought it would be a good idea to be alive for most of it. Now, i already got invaded twice by absurdly high leveled characters in undead burg so far, which were basically immortal to my attacks and oneshot me. But not only that, they also make me unable to leave the game or use bonfire for the long periods they just stand around laughing at me. One of them followed me around and kicked me whenever i engaged enemies until i noticed that i could actually hurt him with my bandits knife, at which point he was forced to kill me with one hit. This reliably happened within 5-10 minutes of me being alive.

So basically, is the only way to play this game to just always stay dead and just reverse that to kindle bonfires? And really, what exactly is even the point of that whole nonsense? It seems to be mostly there just so people can grief others after they have kindled a bonfire. I don't understand why this system is even there in a pure singleplayer game. Probably just to justify bullshit G4WL.

Is there any point to being alive at all other then if you want to get raped by people 50-100 levels ahead of you?

Well, it's not a pure single player game. The MP scene is actually quite rich. Also, invaders can only be below your level (red ones at least), but they probably have ridic gear, either through a glitch (did they fix this?) or just grinding through the game at low levels in order to do just that.

It is pretty random, but as was mentioned, there's no real reason to be human (at least not a good enough one to justify dealing with invasions) unless you want to summon another person / NPC to help with a boss, or kindle a bonfire. If there's an invader trolling you, run to a place relatively near where you'll respawn so your leftovers are nearby and just kill yourself by jumping off somewhere or what not.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 11:11:46
April 14 2013 11:10 GMT
#2275
I think the idea of invasion is a real failure, personally.

Should be specific areas where you can 'invite' challengers, not just a free for all the second you become human. Perhaps when you get over 10 humanity it should be possible to invade.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 14 2013 17:34 GMT
#2276
On April 14 2013 20:10 sc4k wrote:
I think the idea of invasion is a real failure, personally.

Should be specific areas where you can 'invite' challengers, not just a free for all the second you become human. Perhaps when you get over 10 humanity it should be possible to invade.

Well the only way to invade is the use of red eye/cracked red eye orbs, most of the other PvP related stuffs rely on you putting down a sign and someone essentially "accepting" your challenge. But yes there are assholes that just get really good gear with very low soul level and invade the beginner area. This was also an issue with Demon's Souls, which caused people to just never play online. My advice would be to just stay undead until you need to kindle or need NPC help.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
April 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#2277
On April 14 2013 20:10 sc4k wrote:
I think the idea of invasion is a real failure, personally.

Should be specific areas where you can 'invite' challengers, not just a free for all the second you become human. Perhaps when you get over 10 humanity it should be possible to invade.



i love the concept. sadly the p2p networking system works shitty (on pc atleast).
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 14 2013 18:10 GMT
#2278
I just finished the game once with a Dex oriented character, and I'm progressing fast into NG+. ( just beat Smough and Ornstein )
It's a lot easier that I thought it will be. They said ennemies have up to 5 time the health and 2 time the damage, but I really don't feel it yet.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 14 2013 18:13 GMT
#2279
On April 15 2013 03:10 Noocta wrote:
I just finished the game once with a Dex oriented character, and I'm progressing fast into NG+. ( just beat Smough and Ornstein )
It's a lot easier that I thought it will be. They said ennemies have up to 5 time the health and 2 time the damage, but I really don't feel it yet.

After beating the game once you're in NG. You're not in NG+ yet. The second playthrough is arguably the easiest one since your character has all the good gear which you don't have in your first playthrough, and the enemies strength has increased minimally. The later New Games will be alot more difficult.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 18:20:27
April 14 2013 18:17 GMT
#2280
On April 15 2013 03:13 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 03:10 Noocta wrote:
I just finished the game once with a Dex oriented character, and I'm progressing fast into NG+. ( just beat Smough and Ornstein )
It's a lot easier that I thought it will be. They said ennemies have up to 5 time the health and 2 time the damage, but I really don't feel it yet.

After beating the game once you're in NG. You're not in NG+ yet. The second playthrough is arguably the easiest one since your character has all the good gear which you don't have in your first playthrough, and the enemies strength has increased minimally. The later New Games will be alot more difficult.


Oh. I thought it was already NG+
It explains a lot then. Thanks.

Seems a bit random to havbe that second easy playthrough tho. I guess it's a good one to see how fast you can go throught the game.

By the way, is there any reason to use the Gold Tracer of Ciaran in Off Hand when your doing PvE ? No block / No parry seems really dangerous...
I love this weapon, but i've only been using it in main hand so far
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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