EPTQB-Peyton Manning
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Steve Smith
RB- Matt Forte
RB- Frank Gore
TE- Jason Witten
WR/TE/RB - Reggie Wayne
K- Mason Crosby
DEF- PIT
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I am worried about the injuries.
Tell me what you guys think!
NFL 2012 Season - Page 27
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
QB-Peyton Manning WR- Andre Johnson WR- Steve Smith RB- Matt Forte RB- Frank Gore TE- Jason Witten WR/TE/RB - Reggie Wayne K- Mason Crosby DEF- PIT http://i.imgur.com/OSFXE.png I am worried about the injuries. Tell me what you guys think! | ||
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Eoin
19 Posts
QB-Big ben RB-Ray Rice RB- Jamall Charles WR-Victor Cruz WR-Brandon Lloyd TE-Fred Davis W/R-Shonne Greene Def-Texans K-Someone who plays in a dome My bench is ryan matthews, rg3, ben tate ,dwane bowe,justin blackman and sidney rice . My main questions are would you change whos in the flex and would you start rg3 over big ben? | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
On September 03 2012 11:23 Eoin wrote: Im in a couple of ten mans but the one i think i have the most chance to win my starting lineup is QB-Big ben RB-Ray Rice RB- Jamall Charles WR-Victor Cruz WR-Brandon Lloyd TE-Fred Davis W/R-Shonne Greene Def-Texans K-Someone who plays in a dome My bench is ryan matthews, rg3, ben tate ,dwane bowe,justin blackman and sidney rice . My main questions are would you change whos in the flex and would you start rg3 over big ben? I would start Benny and put Bowe in for your flex. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On September 03 2012 11:04 Steelavocado wrote: 14 man league QB-Peyton Manning WR- Andre Johnson WR- Steve Smith RB- Matt Forte RB- Frank Gore TE- Jason Witten WR/TE/RB - Reggie Wayne K- Mason Crosby DEF- PIT http://i.imgur.com/OSFXE.png I am worried about the injuries. Tell me what you guys think! Considering this is a 14-man league, you did pretty good. I'd suggest picking up kendall hunter if he's still on waivers. I'd also suggest trying to trade Andre, he's too much of a wildcard - I just read a very good article on how basically he's valued so highly based on talent, but his track record is horrendous. I don't really like Steve Smith either, he's too risky in my eyes - however even with those two guys your team is still quite solid. Bradford is alright as a backup if you have no other options; Pittsburgh D is actually kinda suck in fantasy, I think they're going to get a lot worse. You can probably pick up a defense week-to-week and play it matchup based. I'd say you have a strong chance of making the playoffs, and an even better chance if you manage your team well by watching the wire. On September 03 2012 11:26 Steelavocado wrote: I would start Benny and put Bowe in for your flex. I wouldn't be so quick to put Bowe into your flex. Yes, I have Bowe higher on the board than Greene. However, Greene is a starting RB (even if the Jets suck). Bowe is really boom or bust, and usually is only good against really really really awful defenses. Other than that, you should dominate when Matthews comes back. Just be careful, you might want to play it matchup based. If anything, put Bowe in for Lloyd. Remember, not only are the Pats going to hand the ball off to a crowded backfield, but you have Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker there too. They also might try breaking in Salas throughout the season as well (as a replacement to Welker). I like Lloyd, he's an awesome player - but be mindful of the plethora of weapons Brady has at his disposal. Greene kicks off against Buffalo, who was terribad against the run last year. I agree with the Big Ben advice - keep him in there, and swap if RG III is this year's Cam. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On September 03 2012 19:49 Jugan wrote: Considering this is a 14-man league, you did pretty good. I'd suggest picking up kendall hunter if he's still on waivers. I'd also suggest trying to trade Andre, he's too much of a wildcard - I just read a very good article on how basically he's valued so highly based on talent, but his track record is horrendous. I don't really like Steve Smith either, he's too risky in my eyes - however even with those two guys your team is still quite solid. Bradford is alright as a backup if you have no other options; Pittsburgh D is actually kinda suck in fantasy, I think they're going to get a lot worse. You can probably pick up a defense week-to-week and play it matchup based. I'd say you have a strong chance of making the playoffs, and an even better chance if you manage your team well by watching the wire. I wouldn't be so quick to put Bowe into your flex. Yes, I have Bowe higher on the board than Greene. However, Greene is a starting RB (even if the Jets suck). Bowe is really boom or bust, and usually is only good against really really really awful defenses. Other than that, you should dominate when Matthews comes back. Just be careful, you might want to play it matchup based. If anything, put Bowe in for Lloyd. Remember, not only are the Pats going to hand the ball off to a crowded backfield, but you have Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker there too. They also might try breaking in Salas throughout the season as well (as a replacement to Welker). I like Lloyd, he's an awesome player - but be mindful of the plethora of weapons Brady has at his disposal. Greene kicks off against Buffalo, who was terribad against the run last year. I agree with the Big Ben advice - keep him in there, and swap if RG III is this year's Cam. I wouldn't say Bowe is boom or bust, and will beat out Shonn Greene rather consistently, as he did last year when I had them both on my team. KC should be a better team this year, with a much better running game to keep defenses a little more honest. Even with last year's team, Bowe was a very reliable fantasy player, top ten WR by most FF scoring standards, and he could have an even better year this year. At the Jets, however, while Shonn Greene still doesn't have too much competition for his roster spot, he just doesn't do much with it. His YPC and production per snap is one of the worst of any starting RB. And Tim Tebow, when he starts playing, will definitely be rushing the ball himself some, and that will eat into Greene's numbers. I'd easily bet that Bowe has a better year than Greene, and is more consistent. If the match-up is heavily skewed more in Greene's favor, than I'd consider playing Greene, but generally I'd go with Bowe. | ||
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
Robert Meachem @ Oakland Toby Gerhart vs Jacksonville Reggie Wayne @ Chicago | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
Its based on normal yahoo standards. Please tell me what you think of my team and my chances of winning. There is a lot of money involved so I would like to win  QB: Tony Romo, Matt Schaub WR: Victor Cruz, Steve Smith, Stevie Johnson, Kenny Britt, Mike Williams(TB) RB: Arian Foster, Ryan Mathews, Frank Gore, Ben Tate, David Wilson TE: Fred Davis K: Dan Carpenter DEF: Detroit | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
solar - seems somewhat above average, although it's pretty reliant on mafews getting back fairly quickly and producing | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
My other options are Reggie Wayne at Chicago, Torrey Smith vs Cincy or even Rashad Jennings at Minny. Jones-Drew being a third down back puts a damper on that last option, though. If Jennings doesn't get going early, they might go to Jones-Drew more even if he just ended his holdout. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On a side-note: I love the people I work with but it can be hilarious playing fantasy football with them. 6th overall pick in a 14-team league and I end up with megatron, gronkowski, and mcfadden on my team. Shouldn't be humanly possible. | ||
GTR
51486 Posts
I think Torrey Smith is a legit WR2 option this year. I'd start him over Wayne and Jennings (can't trust anyone on the Jags offense with Gabbert leading). | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On September 03 2012 23:01 Leporello wrote: I wouldn't say Bowe is boom or bust, and will beat out Shonn Greene rather consistently, as he did last year when I had them both on my team. KC should be a better team this year, with a much better running game to keep defenses a little more honest. Even with last year's team, Bowe was a very reliable fantasy player, top ten WR by most FF scoring standards, and he could have an even better year this year. At the Jets, however, while Shonn Greene still doesn't have too much competition for his roster spot, he just doesn't do much with it. His YPC and production per snap is one of the worst of any starting RB. And Tim Tebow, when he starts playing, will definitely be rushing the ball himself some, and that will eat into Greene's numbers. I'd easily bet that Bowe has a better year than Greene, and is more consistent. If the match-up is heavily skewed more in Greene's favor, than I'd consider playing Greene, but generally I'd go with Bowe. Are you serious? Are you just making a bunch of things up? Bowe has been an inconsistent WR at best for the past two seasons. As a lot of fantasy gurus describe it, it required a "perfect storm of bad defenses for Bowe to break out in '10". In 2011, he had a considerably worse performance, where down the stretch he couldn't even get it done against shoddy secondaries. Greene also had more points on the year. Let's keep in mind that any argument you would have about the Chief's QB doesn't matter because: 1. Any chiefs QB is going to suck. Period. 2. Bowe is not a talent like Larry, Andre, or Megatron. 3. Greene's line sucked balls, so he had it just as bad or worse. Having Tebow in the lineup is like splitting carries with a really shitty LT. I doubt Tebow will be taking more points off Green that LT ever did. His YPC and production per snap is one of the worst of any starting RB. Did you even bother to look up his stats before you even posted this? He hasn't been under 4.0 Yards Per Carry EVER in a single season, and averaged at least 7.0 Yards Per Reception. Not only that, but he rushed for a career high of 253 times last year. Only 253. With Rex Ryan returning to his ground attack strategy, Greene figures to get more carries as the featured back with a hopefully healthier offensive line. Greene's career stats http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12500/shonn-greene Here's Bowe's "consistent" stats from last season. They were consistently crappy. Greene's wasn't that much better, but given the situation he was in and his schedule, on top of the fact that he's a running back - the numbers say Greene is a much better pick if you're looking for consistency. Bowe's fantasy stats from last year. http://www.fftoolbox.com/profiles/profile_display.cfm?player_id=8667 I don't know what to tell you man. Unless you were playing 5.0 points per reception, Bowe did not beat out Greene and Bowe was not anywhere NEAR the top 10 WRs. He was 19 in standard scoring and 15 in 0.5 PPR. That's not even close to top10, and yeah top 10 vs. top15/20 is a huge difference. Honestly, it sounds like you're just a Chiefs homer. Sorry if I offended anyone, I just get riled up when people make shit up and try to use it to contradict what I'm saying. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On September 06 2012 04:42 Jugan wrote: Are you serious? Are you just making a bunch of things up? Bowe has been an inconsistent WR at best for the past two seasons. As a lot of fantasy gurus describe it, it required a "perfect storm of bad defenses for Bowe to break out in '10". In 2011, he had a considerably worse performance, where down the stretch he couldn't even get it done against shoddy secondaries. Greene also had more points on the year. Let's keep in mind that any argument you would have about the Chief's QB doesn't matter because: 1. Any chiefs QB is going to suck. Period. 2. Bowe is not a talent like Larry, Andre, or Megatron. 3. Greene's line sucked balls, so he had it just as bad or worse. Having Tebow in the lineup is like splitting carries with a really shitty LT. I doubt Tebow will be taking more points off Green that LT ever did. Did you even bother to look up his stats before you even posted this? He hasn't been under 4.0 Yards Per Carry EVER in a single season, and averaged at least 7.0 Yards Per Reception. Not only that, but he rushed for a career high of 253 times last year. Only 253. With Rex Ryan returning to his ground attack strategy, Greene figures to get more carries as the featured back with a hopefully healthier offensive line. Greene's career stats http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12500/shonn-greene Here's Bowe's "consistent" stats from last season. They were consistently crappy. Greene's wasn't that much better, but given the situation he was in and his schedule, on top of the fact that he's a running back - the numbers say Greene is a much better pick if you're looking for consistency. Bowe's fantasy stats from last year. http://www.fftoolbox.com/profiles/profile_display.cfm?player_id=8667 I don't know what to tell you man. Unless you were playing 5.0 points per reception, Bowe did not beat out Greene and Bowe was not anywhere NEAR the top 10 WRs. He was 19 in standard scoring and 15 in 0.5 PPR. That's not even close to top10, and yeah top 10 vs. top15/20 is a huge difference. Honestly, it sounds like you're just a Chiefs homer. Sorry if I offended anyone, I just get riled up when people make shit up and try to use it to contradict what I'm saying. Sorry, Bowe was not a top ten, but he was easily a top 20 WR. In my league he was ranked 14th at the end. Shonn Greene, on the other hand, might not be a top 20 RB. He was borderline 20th in my league -- and that was mostly due to a 2-week spurt in weeks 13 and 14. You showed two stat pages and claim they make Shonn Greene look more consistent. Look again. Shonn Greene got a BIG chunk of his fantasy points in a 2-week period, mostly on a very flukish week 13. Most of his weeks were consistently single-digit games, for fantasy purposes. More importantly: Bowe did beat out Shonn Greene, even in a 0.5 PPR format. I'm in a 0.5 PPR, and last year Bowe beat out Shonn Greene 192 to 181. Maybe in a standard league, Shonn Greene would edge out Bowe, but it'd be close. Bowe put up over 1,150 yards in receptions. Greene ran for 1,050 yards, and caught a few for another 200. But Bowe has an additional TD, which makes it close to a tie in standard scoring. In any PPR format, Bowe had a better year last year. Those are simply the numbers. In strict yardage, Greene does win out. Bowe wins in TDs, and if you throw PPR in the mix, the advantage is clearly Bowe's last year. Also -- that was Shonn Greene's best season yet. He's more of a rookie. He could establish himself this year, or he could lose his job. Bowe, on the other hand, is just a bit more reliable when it comes to always having a role on his offense. And I would say Bower is one of the most consistent WRs you can have, in that he's rarely going to lead the charts, but he'll always get his share of catches. Shonn Greene is also consistent, but consistently he's one of the weakest RB1s in the league. I'm sorry but that's a fact. Maybe Greene's numbers look good last year compared to someone like, I don't know... LeGarette Blount, but if you match up Greene to other full-time RBs, I'm sorry, his numbers are well below average. Basically, he makes Marshawn Lynch, Willis McGahee, Ahmad Bradshaw, and all those other guys look good in comparison. Shonn Greene is valuable because he is a full-time back, gets a lot of touches. He is consistent. I've never said he wasn't. But he doesn't move piles at all, he runs into his own line, and the numbers show it. He also doesn't score TDs, and there's nothing to suggest that's going to improve this year. Tim Tebow, does in fact, make it only less likely for Shonn Greene to improve his TD total. In any sort of PPR, I'd take Bowe over Green pretty much any week. Greene is playing Buffalo this week, so you could argue it's a good week for Greene. But otherwise, I'd take Bowe. And I'd wager Bowe, again, ends up more valuable this year as a flex-player in a PPR league. And, no, I don't live in KC or care for their team. But I do recognize, as do most professional fantasy rankings, that Bowe is more valuable than Greene. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32080 Posts
If it is a PPR, Bowe probably starts though. However, I'd keep an eye on Greene. He is a decent buy low guy. When your offense is so fucking shitty that they can't throw downfield at all, you get a lot of dumpoffs to the HB and TE. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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QuanticHawk
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
On September 03 2012 11:04 Steelavocado wrote: 14 man league QB-Peyton Manning WR- Andre Johnson WR- Steve Smith RB- Matt Forte RB- Frank Gore TE- Jason Witten WR/TE/RB - Reggie Wayne K- Mason Crosby DEF- PIT http://i.imgur.com/OSFXE.png I am worried about the injuries. Tell me what you guys think! Crap team. You're going to finish 14th most likely. ^^ | ||
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