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I think we need to remember that there is a difference between a dirty team and dirty players. Just because some players on the Seahawks play like dicks, doesn't mean the whole team is full of them. Look at Wilson for example. He seems like a genuine good guy.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure half the dirty plays are made by one player. Brandon Browner.
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On January 08 2013 12:26 Supamang wrote:
After years of people complaining about Seattle never getting any media coverage, we finally have everyone talking about how dirty of a team we are and how annoying Richard Sherman is.
....meh, better than nothing. We seem to play better when people dont want us to win anyway.
You certainly have some detestable figures on your team. Sherman being a nob 24/7 is certainly the worst, will love it if someone empties him some day.
pete carroll is a gigantic tit also.
Then you have Russell Wilson who is just immensely good and likable, only thing annoying is how elusive he is of tackles when you're playing him, he could definitely take a big hit some day though which wouldn't be good.
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On January 08 2013 12:12 Wolfswood wrote:
"Or i guess you could say thanks to 1 wrong call due to an official who was reffing 8th grade 7v7 football a month earlier"
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alright whatever keep living in fairytale land. Sincerly hoping you guys win this weekend so we can come to your house and poo on everything.
Not to mention that the statement is just inaccurate. Minnesota would have been the 6th seed regardless, since Seattle had pretty much all the tie breakers.
On January 08 2013 20:20 Purdy8TV wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:26 Supamang wrote:
After years of people complaining about Seattle never getting any media coverage, we finally have everyone talking about how dirty of a team we are and how annoying Richard Sherman is.
....meh, better than nothing. We seem to play better when people dont want us to win anyway. You certainly have some detestable figures on your team. Sherman being a nob 24/7 is certainly the worst, will love it if someone empties him some day. pete carroll is a gigantic tit also. Then you have Russell Wilson who is just immensely good and likable, only thing annoying is how elusive he is of tackles when you're playing him, he could definitely take a big hit some day though which wouldn't be good.
People take that stuff from Sherman way too seriously. It's all head games, and it's working. I bet he's cool as fuck outside of football.
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On January 08 2013 11:13 Akamu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 20:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 07 2013 10:57 Hoodlum wrote:
lol, I totally understand why people hate Sherman but you know what... It works.. He gets into the heads of players and it throws them off their game... Football is just as mental as it is physical and if you can't think from rage you can't play well. After the game is a bit much but I would take his intensity any day...
As for the adderall, who gives a shit, I mean you shouldn't abuse drugs in any facet but its not like its steroids lol.
Like I said, Seattle can get a little dirty but its because they are extremely intense and physical, I love this defense and wouldn't trade a single player on it...
GG Redskins, GG Imo, Sherman is the Dennis Rodman of the NFL. Super talented guy, and he works the entire game to get under the other players' skin to get them off their game a bit. It's just smart to do what he does. People hate on Cortland Finnegan for that too, but these guys draw offensive penalties after the whistle with the way they play. On January 07 2013 19:27 Akamu wrote:
Jesus the Seattle circle jerking in this thread is ridiculous. They didn't even play a good game, yes they won and yes by themselves the stats look good but that doesn't tell the whole story.
The offense by and large was quite ineffective. They moved the ball a lot but didn't get the points they should have. They kicked what 3(?) Fields goals in the red zone? They stalled when it mattered most and that's where the better teams pull away.
The defense is really the tale of two stories, or more like 1 knee. First quarter when RG3 was still moving well ish they got absolutely burned. In every aspect. But once RG3 tweaked it at the end of the 2nd touchdown drive he wasn't the same. Not even close. He should have been pulled. He couldn't run and his accuracy took a huge nose dive. He was missing open receivers and turning easy completions into difficult catches. If cousins comes in then maybe its a good ball game again but given how it went down even the saints could have shut down the redskins offense with how crippled RG3 was.
The Seahawks are not the 2010 packers or the 2011 giants. Everyone loves a good story but to hail them as a legitimate contender is laughable. If they had home field advantage then yes you could make that arguement but right now its all hype. I find the falcons inability to win in the post season hilarious and as I much as I would love to see that continue I'm going to have to cheer for them to win just so this madness can end. But until then. Please. Chill the fuck out. I don't think Cousins would have made a bit of difference. The Seattle D was getting beaten up for the same reason the 'Skins beat up a lot of defenses this season: RG3. Put an immobile QB in there against them, and I think you'd get what you saw, except it'd be Kirk Cousins throwing the ball instead of RG3. It's not as though Cousins is a better passer than Griffin or something. Granted, RG3 probably wasn't stepping into his throws the way he normally would. Still, I don't think it would have made a difference. And I think Seattle matches up well against the Falcons, as well. Again, they don't have to deal with the read-option. When they get to play standard D against standard offenses, they're better. The Redskins provide a unique challenge. I think that bolded statement is kind of ridiculous. They're riding a six game win streak-- winning eight of the last nine-- which includes road wins over Chicago and Washington (of course, this is a weaker win). They aren't a strong road team, but they still should give the Falcons trouble, purely on a talent basis. Otherwise, I generally agree with what you're saying: your overall point (what I think it is anyway) that the Seahawks have something to prove still. And I completely agree with what you said about their offense, and the stalls they had. They can't stall against the Falcons next week if they want to win. The Falcons are probably going to score (unless we get Matty Iced throwing the game away again) some points, and I don't think three or four field goals are going to cut it against that team. I think you're just a little bit too harsh in your judgement against them, and you're judging them against the hype rather than purely against the on-field product (which is good, but not the greatest thing we've ever seen, as some are seemingly making it out to be). All that stuff said, I had a good weekend if I had actually bet. 3-1 against the spread, 4-0 in pick 'em. I'm confident that I would have been 4-0 had Ponder played. Most of the games went pretty much as I expected them. Texans established the run game, and dominated. Take away the pick 6, and that game was a blow out. The offense wasn't gaudy, but they did what they needed to do for the most part, in controlling the tempo of the game, which is more or less what I was looking at, versus putting up massive numbers. They definitely left a lot on the field, but that sort of win could be exactly what they need to propel them into a run. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. Green Bay and Minnesota... Joe Webb ruined any hope the Vikings had. Like I said above, I'm confident it would have been a bit closer with Ponder in. I think he would have missed just enough when it really counted, but he would have at least hit a few more passes in the first half (they had SIX YARDS PASSING, WTF!), and caused the D to respect them a little more, opening up the game for AP better. But, what happened, happened. What if's are pointless. Ravens dominated the game, pretty much, as I expected. If Ray Rice holds onto the ball a little better, they probably have 10-14 more points, in an even bigger blowout. Still, I wasn't very impressed by the Ravens, and I don't think they stand a chance at beating the Broncos next Saturday. My fears (along with many other people) came true: RG3's knee broke down, and it killed the game for them. That's pretty much all there is to that game. I just hope that nothing ruptured in his knee. I can't believe Dr. Andrews okay'ed him to play, and did not recommend pulling him earlier, when he was limping around like that. Then again, maybe he did, and they went against him. Who knows. I just hope that he can come back next year, and play his game the way he played early in the season. They're going to need to adjust that offense very quickly to save his body, if they want him around for more than three years. Next week's games should be fun, but I don't foresee any unexpected outcomes. The Niners/Packers skirmish is certainly the most interesting of the weekend, imo. The NFC games are both questionable, and should be exciting, but I think the AFC games should go to the favorites. I really appreciate your post. Packers got a free one with Webb getting the start. Have you seen the pic of Ponder's arm? Fuck trying to throw with that shit. Jesus. https://twitter.com/SGrossStrib/status/288340017007452160/photo/1Although I think you undervalue how much value having a decent passer would have benefited the redskins. RG3 killed them the first 2 drives. He was accurate and threw with power. He hit 2 touchdown passes. After he went down on the sideline right before the 2nd touchdown he wasn't the same. His body language and throwing motion took a dive for the worst.
The Seahawks came to stop the run and left the pass open to beat them and it did. Until RG3 couldn't hit the easy throws. I know i said it in my other post but he missed open receivers and had horrible accuracy from the 2nd quarter on. If Cousins goes into the game. They have a chance. I'm not saying they win but they don't give away a free win by keeping a crippled RG3 in there. It just bothers me that people are generating all this hype to what, to me, was a free win. They took care of business which any playoff team should but I'm not sold on them yet. Even next week they get another soft (imo) matchup vs the Falcons. Of the 4 remaining teams, they are who you want to play. But sadly I wouldn't be surprised to see them choke. So as crazy as it sounds the Seahawks may end up in the Championship game, still unproven thank's to a very fortunate playoff schedule. Or i guess you could say thanks to 1 wrong call due to an official who was reffing 8th grade 7v7 football a month earlier. If the right call is made Seattle goes to San Fran week 1. And that's a scary rematch given how much they spanked them in Seattle. But enough talk of what should have been. This weekends games on the NFC side should be exciting. Both matchups have compelling story lines and no clear favorite. The AFC will only be entertaining if there is a surprise upset. That being said. I'll take the Packers over the Niners in a good one. 27-21. I just don't think Kaepernick can pull it off. Woodson back in the lineup was a difference maker vs Peterson and I think he will have a similar effect vs Kaepernick. He prays on those young quarter backs. As far as Seahawks vs Falcons.... I have no idea. I think both are over hyped but I can't trust the Falcons at home. But that crowd is gonna be jacked up and they have a lot to play for. As much as i would love to have the Seahawks have to come to Lambeau I think the Falcons finally get that playoff win. 24-17 Texans vs Pats. Brady Manning seems destined to happen. I like the Pats to throw down another beating. 34-13. Ravens vs Broncos. Payton and friends take care of business. Although the Ravens looked good with Lewis back in there I don't think they quite have enough to take down the Broncos. At least not in Mile High. They historically don't travel well. 27-10.
I think the Texans are more likely to take out the Pats, than the Ravens over the Broncos. I wonder how a team can keep a level head going into a game versus an opponent they bitch slapped about a month earlier. But I think if the Broncos keep the attitude that if they play their game, they'll win, then they'll win. I know it's partially me being a fanboy, but I really don't see anyone being able to beat them. Top to bottom, they're the best team in the NFL right now.
Agreed on 'Hawks/Falcons. Disagree on Packers/Niners, but not for any real reason (mostly wanting to see the Packers out of the playoffs, probably). I think the Niners win a close one. I could see Kaep fucking them over, possibly, maybe the moment will be too big for him. That's the most interesting part of the game. If he's bad out of the gate, how short is his leash?
All that said, to the bolded part, I just think the threat of RG3 running had the 'Hawks off their game. They were so focused on it, they left WR's wide open. Once the QB run was out, they clamped down on the WR's. Some throws were definitely off, and maybe Cousins could have hit on them... but maybe he comes out and gets knocked around all game instead of getting knocked around for 5 minutes. Idk, I just don't think a QB that hasn't had a whole lot of prep time for a playoff game would come in and make a drastic difference in the game.
Funny thing to me is that people are bitching that RG3 stayed in, and was hurting his team. So now Shanny and RG3 are retarded. But when Cutler hurt his knee two years ago, and clearly couldn't throw well, he quit on his team. Hypocrites!
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I really can't see either the Broncos or the Pats losing this weekend. The Ravens and Texans just don't look like Super Bowl teams. There is far more "upset" potential in the NFC games.
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You don't watch football then. Any given Sunday (or saturday, in this case).
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On January 08 2013 23:20 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 11:13 Akamu wrote:On January 07 2013 20:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 07 2013 10:57 Hoodlum wrote:
lol, I totally understand why people hate Sherman but you know what... It works.. He gets into the heads of players and it throws them off their game... Football is just as mental as it is physical and if you can't think from rage you can't play well. After the game is a bit much but I would take his intensity any day...
As for the adderall, who gives a shit, I mean you shouldn't abuse drugs in any facet but its not like its steroids lol.
Like I said, Seattle can get a little dirty but its because they are extremely intense and physical, I love this defense and wouldn't trade a single player on it...
GG Redskins, GG Imo, Sherman is the Dennis Rodman of the NFL. Super talented guy, and he works the entire game to get under the other players' skin to get them off their game a bit. It's just smart to do what he does. People hate on Cortland Finnegan for that too, but these guys draw offensive penalties after the whistle with the way they play. On January 07 2013 19:27 Akamu wrote:
Jesus the Seattle circle jerking in this thread is ridiculous. They didn't even play a good game, yes they won and yes by themselves the stats look good but that doesn't tell the whole story.
The offense by and large was quite ineffective. They moved the ball a lot but didn't get the points they should have. They kicked what 3(?) Fields goals in the red zone? They stalled when it mattered most and that's where the better teams pull away.
The defense is really the tale of two stories, or more like 1 knee. First quarter when RG3 was still moving well ish they got absolutely burned. In every aspect. But once RG3 tweaked it at the end of the 2nd touchdown drive he wasn't the same. Not even close. He should have been pulled. He couldn't run and his accuracy took a huge nose dive. He was missing open receivers and turning easy completions into difficult catches. If cousins comes in then maybe its a good ball game again but given how it went down even the saints could have shut down the redskins offense with how crippled RG3 was.
The Seahawks are not the 2010 packers or the 2011 giants. Everyone loves a good story but to hail them as a legitimate contender is laughable. If they had home field advantage then yes you could make that arguement but right now its all hype. I find the falcons inability to win in the post season hilarious and as I much as I would love to see that continue I'm going to have to cheer for them to win just so this madness can end. But until then. Please. Chill the fuck out. I don't think Cousins would have made a bit of difference. The Seattle D was getting beaten up for the same reason the 'Skins beat up a lot of defenses this season: RG3. Put an immobile QB in there against them, and I think you'd get what you saw, except it'd be Kirk Cousins throwing the ball instead of RG3. It's not as though Cousins is a better passer than Griffin or something. Granted, RG3 probably wasn't stepping into his throws the way he normally would. Still, I don't think it would have made a difference. And I think Seattle matches up well against the Falcons, as well. Again, they don't have to deal with the read-option. When they get to play standard D against standard offenses, they're better. The Redskins provide a unique challenge. I think that bolded statement is kind of ridiculous. They're riding a six game win streak-- winning eight of the last nine-- which includes road wins over Chicago and Washington (of course, this is a weaker win). They aren't a strong road team, but they still should give the Falcons trouble, purely on a talent basis. Otherwise, I generally agree with what you're saying: your overall point (what I think it is anyway) that the Seahawks have something to prove still. And I completely agree with what you said about their offense, and the stalls they had. They can't stall against the Falcons next week if they want to win. The Falcons are probably going to score (unless we get Matty Iced throwing the game away again) some points, and I don't think three or four field goals are going to cut it against that team. I think you're just a little bit too harsh in your judgement against them, and you're judging them against the hype rather than purely against the on-field product (which is good, but not the greatest thing we've ever seen, as some are seemingly making it out to be). All that stuff said, I had a good weekend if I had actually bet. 3-1 against the spread, 4-0 in pick 'em. I'm confident that I would have been 4-0 had Ponder played. Most of the games went pretty much as I expected them. Texans established the run game, and dominated. Take away the pick 6, and that game was a blow out. The offense wasn't gaudy, but they did what they needed to do for the most part, in controlling the tempo of the game, which is more or less what I was looking at, versus putting up massive numbers. They definitely left a lot on the field, but that sort of win could be exactly what they need to propel them into a run. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. Green Bay and Minnesota... Joe Webb ruined any hope the Vikings had. Like I said above, I'm confident it would have been a bit closer with Ponder in. I think he would have missed just enough when it really counted, but he would have at least hit a few more passes in the first half (they had SIX YARDS PASSING, WTF!), and caused the D to respect them a little more, opening up the game for AP better. But, what happened, happened. What if's are pointless. Ravens dominated the game, pretty much, as I expected. If Ray Rice holds onto the ball a little better, they probably have 10-14 more points, in an even bigger blowout. Still, I wasn't very impressed by the Ravens, and I don't think they stand a chance at beating the Broncos next Saturday. My fears (along with many other people) came true: RG3's knee broke down, and it killed the game for them. That's pretty much all there is to that game. I just hope that nothing ruptured in his knee. I can't believe Dr. Andrews okay'ed him to play, and did not recommend pulling him earlier, when he was limping around like that. Then again, maybe he did, and they went against him. Who knows. I just hope that he can come back next year, and play his game the way he played early in the season. They're going to need to adjust that offense very quickly to save his body, if they want him around for more than three years. Next week's games should be fun, but I don't foresee any unexpected outcomes. The Niners/Packers skirmish is certainly the most interesting of the weekend, imo. The NFC games are both questionable, and should be exciting, but I think the AFC games should go to the favorites. I really appreciate your post. Packers got a free one with Webb getting the start. Have you seen the pic of Ponder's arm? Fuck trying to throw with that shit. Jesus. https://twitter.com/SGrossStrib/status/288340017007452160/photo/1Although I think you undervalue how much value having a decent passer would have benefited the redskins. RG3 killed them the first 2 drives. He was accurate and threw with power. He hit 2 touchdown passes. After he went down on the sideline right before the 2nd touchdown he wasn't the same. His body language and throwing motion took a dive for the worst.
The Seahawks came to stop the run and left the pass open to beat them and it did. Until RG3 couldn't hit the easy throws. I know i said it in my other post but he missed open receivers and had horrible accuracy from the 2nd quarter on. If Cousins goes into the game. They have a chance. I'm not saying they win but they don't give away a free win by keeping a crippled RG3 in there. It just bothers me that people are generating all this hype to what, to me, was a free win. They took care of business which any playoff team should but I'm not sold on them yet. Even next week they get another soft (imo) matchup vs the Falcons. Of the 4 remaining teams, they are who you want to play. But sadly I wouldn't be surprised to see them choke. So as crazy as it sounds the Seahawks may end up in the Championship game, still unproven thank's to a very fortunate playoff schedule. Or i guess you could say thanks to 1 wrong call due to an official who was reffing 8th grade 7v7 football a month earlier. If the right call is made Seattle goes to San Fran week 1. And that's a scary rematch given how much they spanked them in Seattle. But enough talk of what should have been. This weekends games on the NFC side should be exciting. Both matchups have compelling story lines and no clear favorite. The AFC will only be entertaining if there is a surprise upset. That being said. I'll take the Packers over the Niners in a good one. 27-21. I just don't think Kaepernick can pull it off. Woodson back in the lineup was a difference maker vs Peterson and I think he will have a similar effect vs Kaepernick. He prays on those young quarter backs. As far as Seahawks vs Falcons.... I have no idea. I think both are over hyped but I can't trust the Falcons at home. But that crowd is gonna be jacked up and they have a lot to play for. As much as i would love to have the Seahawks have to come to Lambeau I think the Falcons finally get that playoff win. 24-17 Texans vs Pats. Brady Manning seems destined to happen. I like the Pats to throw down another beating. 34-13. Ravens vs Broncos. Payton and friends take care of business. Although the Ravens looked good with Lewis back in there I don't think they quite have enough to take down the Broncos. At least not in Mile High. They historically don't travel well. 27-10. I think the Texans are more likely to take out the Pats, than the Ravens over the Broncos. I wonder how a team can keep a level head going into a game versus an opponent they bitch slapped about a month earlier. But I think if the Broncos keep the attitude that if they play their game, they'll win, then they'll win. I know it's partially me being a fanboy, but I really don't see anyone being able to beat them. Top to bottom, they're the best team in the NFL right now. Agreed on 'Hawks/Falcons. Disagree on Packers/Niners, but not for any real reason (mostly wanting to see the Packers out of the playoffs, probably). I think the Niners win a close one. I could see Kaep fucking them over, possibly, maybe the moment will be too big for him. That's the most interesting part of the game. If he's bad out of the gate, how short is his leash? All that said, to the bolded part, I just think the threat of RG3 running had the 'Hawks off their game. They were so focused on it, they left WR's wide open. Once the QB run was out, they clamped down on the WR's. Some throws were definitely off, and maybe Cousins could have hit on them... but maybe he comes out and gets knocked around all game instead of getting knocked around for 5 minutes. Idk, I just don't think a QB that hasn't had a whole lot of prep time for a playoff game would come in and make a drastic difference in the game. Funny thing to me is that people are bitching that RG3 stayed in, and was hurting his team. So now Shanny and RG3 are retarded. But when Cutler hurt his knee two years ago, and clearly couldn't throw well, he quit on his team. Hypocrites!
No one can blame RG3 for wanting to play, he's a competitor. It's his coach's job, with the advice of medical professionals, to determine whether he is too injured to play. I'm not sure how anyone could blame RG3 for what happened in that game, it's all on Shanahan.
And are you really comparing him to Cutler? The guy has a storied history of being a whiny douchebag who pouts when things don't always go his way. You can't really be surprised when fans speculate that he is quitting on his team when he sustains a minor injury like that. It may not be fair to him, and it may be the right move to not play, but that's what you get when you build a bad reputation.
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On January 08 2013 23:08 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 12:12 Wolfswood wrote:
"Or i guess you could say thanks to 1 wrong call due to an official who was reffing 8th grade 7v7 football a month earlier"
sigh
alright whatever keep living in fairytale land. Sincerly hoping you guys win this weekend so we can come to your house and poo on everything. Not to mention that the statement is just inaccurate. Minnesota would have been the 6th seed regardless, since Seattle had pretty much all the tie breakers. Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 20:20 Purdy8TV wrote:On January 08 2013 12:26 Supamang wrote:
After years of people complaining about Seattle never getting any media coverage, we finally have everyone talking about how dirty of a team we are and how annoying Richard Sherman is.
....meh, better than nothing. We seem to play better when people dont want us to win anyway. You certainly have some detestable figures on your team. Sherman being a nob 24/7 is certainly the worst, will love it if someone empties him some day. pete carroll is a gigantic tit also. Then you have Russell Wilson who is just immensely good and likable, only thing annoying is how elusive he is of tackles when you're playing him, he could definitely take a big hit some day though which wouldn't be good. People take that stuff from Sherman way too seriously. It's all head games, and it's working. I bet he's cool as fuck outside of football.
I've read from various places he got on like a nob all the time well before football. I love me a bit of on field banter, but its just dull and irritating seeing it constantly. That said he is an absolutely fantastic corner, but would love to see him miss his coverage for a Crabtree TD at the Stick to send us to the SB. Mind you I'm not confident we'll beat GB.
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The most amusing thing to me about the SF/GB game is that neither Akers or Crosby look like they can reliably hit anything past 30 yards lately. Candlestick is notorious for being difficult for kickers as well. If the game is close, it might come down to which kicker can get lucky. Akers should be more reliable than Crosby, even if he's struggling as well.
I found the Redskins/Seahawks game unwatchable past the first quarter when the Redskins were on offense. I definitely did not want to see a potential gruesome injury with knees bending where they aren't supposed to.
As for Dick Sherman, he's not an entertaining trash talker like Rodman or Ocho. He's just annoying.
The wildcard games really were a dud. The potentially most entertaining one was screwed up by RG3's injury. The Vikings did some questionable stuff on offense, too. They would have made more of a game of it if they just let Webb be a running quarterback. The game got away from them while he was trying to pass early on.
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Seahawks
49ers
Patriots
Broncos
My picks for this weekend's games. I want the Texans to win but I feel like they'd have to pull something amazing out of their ass if they want to beat the Patriots. That nasty defeat during the regular season still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Clemens is out. I blame the crappy field from the previous game. That's going to hinder the Seahawks D but they'll still pull through with the win. I'd like to see them and the 49ers hit heads for the 3rd time. Even if it's going to be another road game the Seahawks will put em in their place again.
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Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again?
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On January 09 2013 08:05 DannyJ wrote:
Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again?
I want Ray to win it, not Peyton. Peyton has a few years left in the tank, I want to see the big man in Baltimore go out on top. Failing that I think Peyton would be my next choice.
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On January 09 2013 08:05 DannyJ wrote:
Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again?
I was hoping brady would win it once the niners lost to the giants last year just to rub it in peyton's face another superbowl ring won in indy. I'm mean spirited, i wanted alex smith to have a sb ring just to rub it in the faces of niner fans that called him a bust.
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Everyone called him a bust pre Harbaugh, it would be to rub in everyones face but Alex is far too classy an individual to do that. How I wish it was him starting, id definitely fancy our chances much more if he had been plsying past 6 games.
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On January 09 2013 00:44 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 23:20 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 08 2013 11:13 Akamu wrote:On January 07 2013 20:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On January 07 2013 10:57 Hoodlum wrote:
lol, I totally understand why people hate Sherman but you know what... It works.. He gets into the heads of players and it throws them off their game... Football is just as mental as it is physical and if you can't think from rage you can't play well. After the game is a bit much but I would take his intensity any day...
As for the adderall, who gives a shit, I mean you shouldn't abuse drugs in any facet but its not like its steroids lol.
Like I said, Seattle can get a little dirty but its because they are extremely intense and physical, I love this defense and wouldn't trade a single player on it...
GG Redskins, GG Imo, Sherman is the Dennis Rodman of the NFL. Super talented guy, and he works the entire game to get under the other players' skin to get them off their game a bit. It's just smart to do what he does. People hate on Cortland Finnegan for that too, but these guys draw offensive penalties after the whistle with the way they play. On January 07 2013 19:27 Akamu wrote:
Jesus the Seattle circle jerking in this thread is ridiculous. They didn't even play a good game, yes they won and yes by themselves the stats look good but that doesn't tell the whole story.
The offense by and large was quite ineffective. They moved the ball a lot but didn't get the points they should have. They kicked what 3(?) Fields goals in the red zone? They stalled when it mattered most and that's where the better teams pull away.
The defense is really the tale of two stories, or more like 1 knee. First quarter when RG3 was still moving well ish they got absolutely burned. In every aspect. But once RG3 tweaked it at the end of the 2nd touchdown drive he wasn't the same. Not even close. He should have been pulled. He couldn't run and his accuracy took a huge nose dive. He was missing open receivers and turning easy completions into difficult catches. If cousins comes in then maybe its a good ball game again but given how it went down even the saints could have shut down the redskins offense with how crippled RG3 was.
The Seahawks are not the 2010 packers or the 2011 giants. Everyone loves a good story but to hail them as a legitimate contender is laughable. If they had home field advantage then yes you could make that arguement but right now its all hype. I find the falcons inability to win in the post season hilarious and as I much as I would love to see that continue I'm going to have to cheer for them to win just so this madness can end. But until then. Please. Chill the fuck out. I don't think Cousins would have made a bit of difference. The Seattle D was getting beaten up for the same reason the 'Skins beat up a lot of defenses this season: RG3. Put an immobile QB in there against them, and I think you'd get what you saw, except it'd be Kirk Cousins throwing the ball instead of RG3. It's not as though Cousins is a better passer than Griffin or something. Granted, RG3 probably wasn't stepping into his throws the way he normally would. Still, I don't think it would have made a difference. And I think Seattle matches up well against the Falcons, as well. Again, they don't have to deal with the read-option. When they get to play standard D against standard offenses, they're better. The Redskins provide a unique challenge. I think that bolded statement is kind of ridiculous. They're riding a six game win streak-- winning eight of the last nine-- which includes road wins over Chicago and Washington (of course, this is a weaker win). They aren't a strong road team, but they still should give the Falcons trouble, purely on a talent basis. Otherwise, I generally agree with what you're saying: your overall point (what I think it is anyway) that the Seahawks have something to prove still. And I completely agree with what you said about their offense, and the stalls they had. They can't stall against the Falcons next week if they want to win. The Falcons are probably going to score (unless we get Matty Iced throwing the game away again) some points, and I don't think three or four field goals are going to cut it against that team. I think you're just a little bit too harsh in your judgement against them, and you're judging them against the hype rather than purely against the on-field product (which is good, but not the greatest thing we've ever seen, as some are seemingly making it out to be). All that stuff said, I had a good weekend if I had actually bet. 3-1 against the spread, 4-0 in pick 'em. I'm confident that I would have been 4-0 had Ponder played. Most of the games went pretty much as I expected them. Texans established the run game, and dominated. Take away the pick 6, and that game was a blow out. The offense wasn't gaudy, but they did what they needed to do for the most part, in controlling the tempo of the game, which is more or less what I was looking at, versus putting up massive numbers. They definitely left a lot on the field, but that sort of win could be exactly what they need to propel them into a run. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. Green Bay and Minnesota... Joe Webb ruined any hope the Vikings had. Like I said above, I'm confident it would have been a bit closer with Ponder in. I think he would have missed just enough when it really counted, but he would have at least hit a few more passes in the first half (they had SIX YARDS PASSING, WTF!), and caused the D to respect them a little more, opening up the game for AP better. But, what happened, happened. What if's are pointless. Ravens dominated the game, pretty much, as I expected. If Ray Rice holds onto the ball a little better, they probably have 10-14 more points, in an even bigger blowout. Still, I wasn't very impressed by the Ravens, and I don't think they stand a chance at beating the Broncos next Saturday. My fears (along with many other people) came true: RG3's knee broke down, and it killed the game for them. That's pretty much all there is to that game. I just hope that nothing ruptured in his knee. I can't believe Dr. Andrews okay'ed him to play, and did not recommend pulling him earlier, when he was limping around like that. Then again, maybe he did, and they went against him. Who knows. I just hope that he can come back next year, and play his game the way he played early in the season. They're going to need to adjust that offense very quickly to save his body, if they want him around for more than three years. Next week's games should be fun, but I don't foresee any unexpected outcomes. The Niners/Packers skirmish is certainly the most interesting of the weekend, imo. The NFC games are both questionable, and should be exciting, but I think the AFC games should go to the favorites. I really appreciate your post. Packers got a free one with Webb getting the start. Have you seen the pic of Ponder's arm? Fuck trying to throw with that shit. Jesus. https://twitter.com/SGrossStrib/status/288340017007452160/photo/1Although I think you undervalue how much value having a decent passer would have benefited the redskins. RG3 killed them the first 2 drives. He was accurate and threw with power. He hit 2 touchdown passes. After he went down on the sideline right before the 2nd touchdown he wasn't the same. His body language and throwing motion took a dive for the worst.
The Seahawks came to stop the run and left the pass open to beat them and it did. Until RG3 couldn't hit the easy throws. I know i said it in my other post but he missed open receivers and had horrible accuracy from the 2nd quarter on. If Cousins goes into the game. They have a chance. I'm not saying they win but they don't give away a free win by keeping a crippled RG3 in there. It just bothers me that people are generating all this hype to what, to me, was a free win. They took care of business which any playoff team should but I'm not sold on them yet. Even next week they get another soft (imo) matchup vs the Falcons. Of the 4 remaining teams, they are who you want to play. But sadly I wouldn't be surprised to see them choke. So as crazy as it sounds the Seahawks may end up in the Championship game, still unproven thank's to a very fortunate playoff schedule. Or i guess you could say thanks to 1 wrong call due to an official who was reffing 8th grade 7v7 football a month earlier. If the right call is made Seattle goes to San Fran week 1. And that's a scary rematch given how much they spanked them in Seattle. But enough talk of what should have been. This weekends games on the NFC side should be exciting. Both matchups have compelling story lines and no clear favorite. The AFC will only be entertaining if there is a surprise upset. That being said. I'll take the Packers over the Niners in a good one. 27-21. I just don't think Kaepernick can pull it off. Woodson back in the lineup was a difference maker vs Peterson and I think he will have a similar effect vs Kaepernick. He prays on those young quarter backs. As far as Seahawks vs Falcons.... I have no idea. I think both are over hyped but I can't trust the Falcons at home. But that crowd is gonna be jacked up and they have a lot to play for. As much as i would love to have the Seahawks have to come to Lambeau I think the Falcons finally get that playoff win. 24-17 Texans vs Pats. Brady Manning seems destined to happen. I like the Pats to throw down another beating. 34-13. Ravens vs Broncos. Payton and friends take care of business. Although the Ravens looked good with Lewis back in there I don't think they quite have enough to take down the Broncos. At least not in Mile High. They historically don't travel well. 27-10. I think the Texans are more likely to take out the Pats, than the Ravens over the Broncos. I wonder how a team can keep a level head going into a game versus an opponent they bitch slapped about a month earlier. But I think if the Broncos keep the attitude that if they play their game, they'll win, then they'll win. I know it's partially me being a fanboy, but I really don't see anyone being able to beat them. Top to bottom, they're the best team in the NFL right now. Agreed on 'Hawks/Falcons. Disagree on Packers/Niners, but not for any real reason (mostly wanting to see the Packers out of the playoffs, probably). I think the Niners win a close one. I could see Kaep fucking them over, possibly, maybe the moment will be too big for him. That's the most interesting part of the game. If he's bad out of the gate, how short is his leash? All that said, to the bolded part, I just think the threat of RG3 running had the 'Hawks off their game. They were so focused on it, they left WR's wide open. Once the QB run was out, they clamped down on the WR's. Some throws were definitely off, and maybe Cousins could have hit on them... but maybe he comes out and gets knocked around all game instead of getting knocked around for 5 minutes. Idk, I just don't think a QB that hasn't had a whole lot of prep time for a playoff game would come in and make a drastic difference in the game. Funny thing to me is that people are bitching that RG3 stayed in, and was hurting his team. So now Shanny and RG3 are retarded. But when Cutler hurt his knee two years ago, and clearly couldn't throw well, he quit on his team. Hypocrites! No one can blame RG3 for wanting to play, he's a competitor. It's his coach's job, with the advice of medical professionals, to determine whether he is too injured to play. I'm not sure how anyone could blame RG3 for what happened in that game, it's all on Shanahan. And are you really comparing him to Cutler? The guy has a storied history of being a whiny douchebag who pouts when things don't always go his way. You can't really be surprised when fans speculate that he is quitting on his team when he sustains a minor injury like that. It may not be fair to him, and it may be the right move to not play, but that's what you get when you build a bad reputation.
Except his reputation is built on the structure of his face, much like grumpy cat.
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On January 09 2013 08:05 DannyJ wrote:
Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again?
I want Peyton to win it next year because isn't the super bowl in New York next year? He can win it on Eli's field since Eli won it on his
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On January 09 2013 09:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 08:05 DannyJ wrote:
Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again? I want Peyton to win it next year because isn't the super bowl in New York next year? He can win it on Eli's field since Eli won it on his
I do too... although I also want him to win this season, and in two years. Three-peat! I'd only be happy if the Bears took one in that time.
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On January 09 2013 09:26 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 09:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 09 2013 08:05 DannyJ wrote:
Anyone else have absolutely no rooting interest besides wanting to see Peyton win it again? I want Peyton to win it next year because isn't the super bowl in New York next year? He can win it on Eli's field since Eli won it on his I do too... although I also want him to win this season, and in two years. Three-peat! I'd only be happy if the Bears took one in that time.
You're living in a dream world! =)
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Unless he's got ADP's freak healing, he's gonna miss a few games next season.
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