NFL 2012 Season - Page 216

On January 07 2013 15:39 Serpico wrote:
Seattle was 1-6 in the redzone and started out down 14-0 and ended up winning by double digits, after also fumbling on the one yard line. All on the road against a team that was on a big winning streak. They also ran for 230 yards against a team that I think was top 5 in rush defense. They're built to be incredibly resilient and tough. Also brandon browner threw garcon like a ragdoll half the time when he tried to block him.

Final stat: Redskins had 16 yards in the 2nd qtr, 27 yds in the 3rd, 25 in the 4th.

On January 07 2013 15:39 Serpico wrote:
Seattle was 1-6 in the redzone and started out down 14-0 and ended up winning by double digits, after also fumbling on the one yard line. All on the road against a team that was on a big winning streak. They also ran for 230 yards against a team that I think was top 5 in rush defense. They're built to be incredibly resilient and tough. Also brandon browner threw garcon like a ragdoll half the time when he tried to block him.

Final stat: Redskins had 16 yards in the 2nd qtr, 27 yds in the 3rd, 25 in the 4th.

On January 07 2013 17:35 cLutZ wrote:


Seattle is so "resilient" because all 3 of their units is top 5 in the league. Off, Def, ST.

Just see: http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff

On January 07 2013 15:39 Serpico wrote:
Seattle was 1-6 in the redzone and started out down 14-0 and ended up winning by double digits, after also fumbling on the one yard line. All on the road against a team that was on a big winning streak. They also ran for 230 yards against a team that I think was top 5 in rush defense. They're built to be incredibly resilient and tough. Also brandon browner threw garcon like a ragdoll half the time when he tried to block him.

Final stat: Redskins had 16 yards in the 2nd qtr, 27 yds in the 3rd, 25 in the 4th.

On January 07 2013 10:57 Hoodlum wrote:
lol, I totally understand why people hate Sherman but you know what... It works.. He gets into the heads of players and it throws them off their game... Football is just as mental as it is physical and if you can't think from rage you can't play well. After the game is a bit much but I would take his intensity any day...

As for the adderall, who gives a shit, I mean you shouldn't abuse drugs in any facet but its not like its steroids lol.

Like I said, Seattle can get a little dirty but its because they are extremely intense and physical, I love this defense and wouldn't trade a single player on it...

GG Redskins, GG

On January 07 2013 19:27 Akamu wrote:
Jesus the Seattle circle jerking in this thread is ridiculous. They didn't even play a good game, yes they won and yes by themselves the stats look good but that doesn't tell the whole story.

The offense by and large was quite ineffective. They moved the ball a lot but didn't get the points they should have. They kicked what 3(?) Fields goals in the red zone? They stalled when it mattered most and that's where the better teams pull away.

The defense is really the tale of two stories, or more like 1 knee. First quarter when RG3 was still moving well ish they got absolutely burned. In every aspect. But once RG3 tweaked it at the end of the 2nd touchdown drive he wasn't the same. Not even close. He should have been pulled. He couldn't run and his accuracy took a huge nose dive. He was missing open receivers and turning easy completions into difficult catches. If cousins comes in then maybe its a good ball game again but given how it went down even the saints could have shut down the redskins offense with how crippled RG3 was.

The Seahawks are not the 2010 packers or the 2011 giants. Everyone loves a good story but to hail them as a legitimate contender is laughable. If they had home field advantage then yes you could make that arguement but right now its all hype. I find the falcons inability to win in the post season hilarious and as I much as I would love to see that continue I'm going to have to cheer for them to win just so this madness can end. But until then. Please. Chill the fuck out.

My fears (along with many other people) came true: RG3's knee broke down, and it killed the game for them. That's pretty much all there is to that game. I just hope that nothing ruptured in his knee. I can't believe Dr. Andrews okay'ed him to play, and did not recommend pulling him earlier, when he was limping around like that. Then again, maybe he did, and they went against him. Who knows. I just hope that he can come back next year, and play his game the way he played early in the season. They're going to need to adjust that offense very quickly to save his body, if they want him around for more than three years.

On January 07 2013 19:27 Akamu wrote:
Jesus the Seattle circle jerking in this thread is ridiculous. They didn't even play a good game, yes they won and yes by themselves the stats look good but that doesn't tell the whole story.

The offense by and large was quite ineffective. They moved the ball a lot but didn't get the points they should have. They kicked what 3(?) Fields goals in the red zone? They stalled when it mattered most and that's where the better teams pull away.

The defense is really the tale of two stories, or more like 1 knee. First quarter when RG3 was still moving well ish they got absolutely burned. In every aspect. But once RG3 tweaked it at the end of the 2nd touchdown drive he wasn't the same. Not even close. He should have been pulled. He couldn't run and his accuracy took a huge nose dive. He was missing open receivers and turning easy completions into difficult catches. If cousins comes in then maybe its a good ball game again but given how it went down even the saints could have shut down the redskins offense with how crippled RG3 was.

The Seahawks are not the 2010 packers or the 2011 giants. Everyone loves a good story but to hail them as a legitimate contender is laughable. If they had home field advantage then yes you could make that arguement but right now its all hype. I find the falcons inability to win in the post season hilarious and as I much as I would love to see that continue I'm going to have to cheer for them to win just so this madness can end. But until then. Please. Chill the fuck out.

On January 07 2013 13:45 Greggle wrote:
Pissed as fuck at Shanahan, need to vent. I don't give a shit if RG3 wants to play. It's easy to tell that as long as he can still stand RG3 will play no matter what. It was Shanahan's job to stop him and he failed. RG3 didn't even play well after he started limping, the guy has posted perfect QB ratings and yet he was overshooting passes nonstop throughout the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters. Shanahan should have pulled him and put Cousins in at halftime, no excuses. RG3 was not himself and now his next season is in jeopardy because Shanahan wanted to go lose to the Falcons next week. There was nothing to gain. Sure a playoff win is a big deal, but next season with a good CB/S signed in the off-season and we won't even be playing in wildcard weekend.

But no, take the chance at fucking up this poor kids career after you've already asked so much and he delivered so much. Fuck you, Shanahan.

PS, if his MRI turns out bad tomorrow please remember you don't have your next two first-round picks to help you fix this mess.

On January 07 2013 20:13 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:


Imo, Sherman is the Dennis Rodman of the NFL. Super talented guy, and he works the entire game to get under the other players' skin to get them off their game a bit. It's just smart to do what he does. People hate on Cortland Finnegan for that too, but these guys draw offensive penalties after the whistle with the way they play.



I don't think Cousins would have made a bit of difference. The Seattle D was getting beaten up for the same reason the 'Skins beat up a lot of defenses this season: RG3. Put an immobile QB in there against them, and I think you'd get what you saw, except it'd be Kirk Cousins throwing the ball instead of RG3. It's not as though Cousins is a better passer than Griffin or something. Granted, RG3 probably wasn't stepping into his throws the way he normally would. Still, I don't think it would have made a difference.

And I think Seattle matches up well against the Falcons, as well. Again, they don't have to deal with the read-option. When they get to play standard D against standard offenses, they're better. The Redskins provide a unique challenge.

I think that bolded statement is kind of ridiculous. They're riding a six game win streak-- winning eight of the last nine-- which includes road wins over Chicago and Washington (of course, this is a weaker win). They aren't a strong road team, but they still should give the Falcons trouble, purely on a talent basis.

Otherwise, I generally agree with what you're saying: your overall point (what I think it is anyway) that the Seahawks have something to prove still. And I completely agree with what you said about their offense, and the stalls they had. They can't stall against the Falcons next week if they want to win. The Falcons are probably going to score (unless we get Matty Iced throwing the game away again) some points, and I don't think three or four field goals are going to cut it against that team. I think you're just a little bit too harsh in your judgement against them, and you're judging them against the hype rather than purely against the on-field product (which is good, but not the greatest thing we've ever seen, as some are seemingly making it out to be).

All that stuff said, I had a good weekend if I had actually bet. 3-1 against the spread, 4-0 in pick 'em. I'm confident that I would have been 4-0 had Ponder played. Most of the games went pretty much as I expected them.

Texans established the run game, and dominated. Take away the pick 6, and that game was a blow out. The offense wasn't gaudy, but they did what they needed to do for the most part, in controlling the tempo of the game, which is more or less what I was looking at, versus putting up massive numbers. They definitely left a lot on the field, but that sort of win could be exactly what they need to propel them into a run. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

Green Bay and Minnesota... Joe Webb ruined any hope the Vikings had. Like I said above, I'm confident it would have been a bit closer with Ponder in. I think he would have missed just enough when it really counted, but he would have at least hit a few more passes in the first half (they had SIX YARDS PASSING, WTF!), and caused the D to respect them a little more, opening up the game for AP better. But, what happened, happened. What if's are pointless.

Ravens dominated the game, pretty much, as I expected. If Ray Rice holds onto the ball a little better, they probably have 10-14 more points, in an even bigger blowout. Still, I wasn't very impressed by the Ravens, and I don't think they stand a chance at beating the Broncos next Saturday.

My fears (along with many other people) came true: RG3's knee broke down, and it killed the game for them. That's pretty much all there is to that game. I just hope that nothing ruptured in his knee. I can't believe Dr. Andrews okay'ed him to play, and did not recommend pulling him earlier, when he was limping around like that. Then again, maybe he did, and they went against him. Who knows. I just hope that he can come back next year, and play his game the way he played early in the season. They're going to need to adjust that offense very quickly to save his body, if they want him around for more than three years.

Next week's games should be fun, but I don't foresee any unexpected outcomes. The Niners/Packers skirmish is certainly the most interesting of the weekend, imo. The NFC games are both questionable, and should be exciting, but I think the AFC games should go to the favorites.

On January 08 2013 12:26 Supamang wrote:
After years of people complaining about Seattle never getting any media coverage, we finally have everyone talking about how dirty of a team we are and how annoying Richard Sherman is.

....meh, better than nothing. We seem to play better when people dont want us to win anyway.