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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 30 2012 16:40 GMT
#3201
It seems to take a veteran team around a QB in order to really develop them, just look at rodgers and big ben both game into the game around a team, you look at smith he came into a very dysfunctional 49ers and suffered though that getting injured but you look at 2010-2012 improvement after every year. Which is why i don't worry about kaep doing well with the niners i just worry it's a bit too soon to be risking a very good superbowl run on him over alex.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
November 30 2012 17:01 GMT
#3202
On December 01 2012 01:18 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 15:39 GoShox wrote:
I really hope KC doesn't try to get Alex Smith. KC is due for a new coach, a new GM, and a QB that they can finally call their own.. Geno Smith.

I laugh at how the media is talking about how bad Philly has it and is jumping on their side.. you guys have no idea how bad KC has had it. Absolutely no idea.

Smith would be good for KC. They need a competent quarterback right now. Obviously, KC is also going to look at drafting a new a new QB, but I think letting the rookie develop from the sidelines for at least a season is a good idea.

Manziel is going to end up in KC. When your fans cheer at your #1 QB getting hurt, and you have Brady Quinn as your backup, and you (will likely) have the worst record in football and the #1 pick, you draft a QB.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 30 2012 18:51 GMT
#3203
On November 30 2012 22:47 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 02:33 Ferrose wrote:
Tyrann "Honey Badger" Mathieu declares for NFL draft.

He's an amazing talent at CB and as a punt returner (former Heisman finalist), but he has a history of marijuana abuse, including an arrest, a suspension last year, and most notably, being kicked from the team (LSU) this year.


That's really interesting. I expected him to come back to college with a non-FBS team (much like Janoris Jenkins) and try and reclaim his stock through that. Really big risk for him that he will end up undrafted and not find a spot on an NFL roster though given his history.


I think if he gets clean and has a good showing at the combine/pro days, he'll find a team. He's first round talent that you can probably get on the second day of the draft.

On December 01 2012 02:01 Durp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 01:18 xDaunt wrote:
On November 30 2012 15:39 GoShox wrote:
I really hope KC doesn't try to get Alex Smith. KC is due for a new coach, a new GM, and a QB that they can finally call their own.. Geno Smith.

I laugh at how the media is talking about how bad Philly has it and is jumping on their side.. you guys have no idea how bad KC has had it. Absolutely no idea.

Smith would be good for KC. They need a competent quarterback right now. Obviously, KC is also going to look at drafting a new a new QB, but I think letting the rookie develop from the sidelines for at least a season is a good idea.

Manziel is going to end up in KC. When your fans cheer at your #1 QB getting hurt, and you have Brady Quinn as your backup, and you (will likely) have the worst record in football and the #1 pick, you draft a QB.


Johnny Manziel is only a freshman, so I really hope the Chiefs don't have the #1 pick in another two years (or three if he stays all four years)
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 16:30:16
December 01 2012 16:05 GMT
#3204
Okay, we know the Chiefs suck, but this is going way too far.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-player-commits-suicide-team-facility

Jason La Canfora reports that the player in question was linebacker Jovan Belcher.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 01 2012 16:11 GMT
#3205
On December 02 2012 01:05 GTR wrote:
Okay, we know the Chiefs suck, but this is going way too far.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-player-commits-suicide-team-facility

Jason La Canfora and Adam Schefter reports that the player in question was linebacker Jovan Belcher.

concussion discussion in 3..2..1. not here but at nfl.com and espn bleh
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 17:59:50
December 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#3206
On December 02 2012 01:11 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 01:05 GTR wrote:
Okay, we know the Chiefs suck, but this is going way too far.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-player-commits-suicide-team-facility

Jason La Canfora and Adam Schefter reports that the player in question was linebacker Jovan Belcher.

concussion discussion in 3..2..1. not here but at nfl.com and espn bleh


I'm thinking performance enhancing drugs gone wrong, maybe he did it infront of the coaches to show them it's their fault. Anyhow its a great tradgedy ofc.

Edit: Maybe not, he thanked the coach and GM for what they had done for him.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
December 01 2012 18:52 GMT
#3207
On December 02 2012 01:05 GTR wrote:
Okay, we know the Chiefs suck, but this is going way too far.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-player-commits-suicide-team-facility

Jason La Canfora reports that the player in question was linebacker Jovan Belcher.


I'm like in shock right now, he wasn't a bad linebacker and was really good at stopping the run. IIRC he wasn't even drafted, he worked his way up to where he is right now. It amazes me that somebody in that position could feel so bad about life when so many people would love to be in that spot.

I don't mean to make him out to be the victim, because he was the one that did the killing, but it's just sad.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
December 01 2012 18:58 GMT
#3208
Man, he shot himself in front of Crennel and Pioli too. I'm not huge fans of either as far as their jobs go, but they're people and I can't imagine seeing that and being able to recover. I've witnessed one death, it was a motorcycle accident and it affected me a lot. But a shooting just right in front of you, I'd never wish that on anyone.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#3209
Can't imagine what the Chiefs players are going through right now. They are nearing the end of a really bad season and now have to deal with the death of one of their teammates.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
December 01 2012 19:39 GMT
#3210
On December 02 2012 04:16 DMXD wrote:
Can't imagine what the Chiefs players are going through right now. They are nearing the end of a really bad season and now have to deal with the death of one of their teammates.


I'd love to comment and tell you how the games are meaningless right now, but I'd be wrong. I don't know if an NFL team has ever had a regular season this bad, and I don't mean just the games. First there was a murder-suicide of an employee at Arrowhead Stadium back in August or September I believe. Obviously there's been a lot of drama on the team, the media on them constantly. And now there's this..

Like, I'm obviously not even remotely close to the situation and I feel pretty heartbroken about it. Imagine being another linebacker and looking over for communication and realizing he's not there anymore..

As it stands, the game is still on. If I was Clark Hunt (Chiefs owner), I'd hold a team meeting and hold a vote on whether they play. If they vote no, I'd forfeit and deal with the fallout from Goodell. If the players want to play though.. well, I know there's a lot of Chiefs fans that have been rooting for them to get the #1 pick. But for just one game, I hope the stadium is full again and the fans are behind every single player's back all the way.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 01 2012 20:00 GMT
#3211
On December 02 2012 04:39 GoShox wrote:
As it stands, the game is still on. If I was Clark Hunt (Chiefs owner), I'd hold a team meeting and hold a vote on whether they play. If they vote no, I'd forfeit and deal with the fallout from Goodell. If the players want to play though.. well, I know there's a lot of Chiefs fans that have been rooting for them to get the #1 pick. But for just one game, I hope the stadium is full again and the fans are behind every single player's back all the way.


Yeah, I fully agree... (even if it was a meaningful game).
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
December 01 2012 20:55 GMT
#3212
ESPN just confirmed that the league decided that the Chiefs will play, but I missed most of the report, so I'm not sure what their justification was or how involved the Chiefs organization was in the decision.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
December 02 2012 06:45 GMT
#3213
Quick fantasy question. I'm really agonizing over which WRs to start this week. I have to pick 3, no PPR:
Andre Johnson @ TEN
Hakeem Nicks @ WAS
Cecil Shorts @ BUF
Torrey Smith vs. PIT
Pierre Garcon vs. NYG
Golden Tate @ CHI
Justin Blackmon @ BUF

The only truly obvious sit is Tate. I'll probably sit Smith because Pit has a good pass defense, though he's at home and he's been great at home. Johnson has been on fire the last 2 weeks, but I'm unsure how much longer that will last. Also, he probably has the hardest matchup other than Tate and Smith. Nicks hasn't been performing that well, but he's finally getting healthy and the Giants seem to get better in December. Shorts has been consistently good for most of the season. Garcon gets a ton of targets in that offense and benefits a lot from defenses committing to shutting down the rushing of RG3 and Morris. Blackmon is a bit of a wild card, but it's hard to ignore the last 2 weeks he's had since Gabbert went down. Thoughts anyone?
Uff Da
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2012 06:57 GMT
#3214
On December 02 2012 15:45 Qatol wrote:
Quick fantasy question. I'm really agonizing over which WRs to start this week. I have to pick 3, no PPR:
Andre Johnson @ TEN
Hakeem Nicks @ WAS
Cecil Shorts @ BUF
Torrey Smith vs. PIT
Pierre Garcon vs. NYG
Golden Tate @ CHI
Justin Blackmon @ BUF

The only truly obvious sit is Tate. I'll probably sit Smith because Pit has a good pass defense, though he's at home and he's been great at home. Johnson has been on fire the last 2 weeks, but I'm unsure how much longer that will last. Also, he probably has the hardest matchup other than Tate and Smith. Nicks hasn't been performing that well, but he's finally getting healthy and the Giants seem to get better in December. Shorts has been consistently good for most of the season. Garcon gets a ton of targets in that offense and benefits a lot from defenses committing to shutting down the rushing of RG3 and Morris. Blackmon is a bit of a wild card, but it's hard to ignore the last 2 weeks he's had since Gabbert went down. Thoughts anyone?

Eh, I'm inclined to go with Johnson, Nicks, and Garcon. Johnson is hot, and I tend to think that there are going to be some points scored in that NYG/Skins game.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 07:59:32
December 02 2012 07:59 GMT
#3215
Steve Breaston's thoughts on playing tomorrow...

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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 02 2012 08:14 GMT
#3216
Yeah considering how it all went down it's not like the panthers or cheifs are really playing for much as teams.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51486 Posts
December 02 2012 13:30 GMT
#3217
Well, with the shooting, the spread has gone up to -4 for Carolina for the KC-CAR game.
One extra point really going to make people bet on the Chiefs?!

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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 15:07:14
December 02 2012 15:02 GMT
#3218
On December 02 2012 17:14 semantics wrote:
Yeah considering how it all went down it's not like the panthers or cheifs are really playing for much as teams.

But...but... this game has huge fantasy implications...especially for Cam Newton owners. Not playing would possibly doom a lot of owners out of the playoff.
Joking aside, yea it sucks for Chiefs that they have to play. It's not like they needed additional hardships given how their season has gone...
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2012 19:15 GMT
#3219
This Niners game has been rotten. The Niners have been moving the ball, but there have been some drive-killing drops and penalties.

The Rams offense has barely showed up.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 02 2012 19:20 GMT
#3220
On December 03 2012 04:15 xDaunt wrote:
This Niners game has been rotten. The Niners have been moving the ball, but there have been some drive-killing drops and penalties.

The Rams offense has barely showed up.

So nothing new for either team. XD
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