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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 16:07 GMT
#621
Actually it's funny you mention that because the five-person jury had one of the bots I killed on it trying to speak in broken english lol.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 26 2014 16:14 GMT
#622
That's actually so funny.

How does prison work.
maru lover forever
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 26 2014 16:16 GMT
#623
Bit like this: http://sayhellovam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/the-soap-don-t-drop-the-soap-demoti.jpg
Useless wet fish.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 16:55 GMT
#624
On September 27 2014 01:14 Incognoto wrote:
That's actually so funny.

How does prison work.


Short answer? It doesn't. The Jury is just an excuse to troll and prison takes five minutes to break out of, so there's really no point to any of it.

Long answer? The server "randomly" picks five people to be the Jury (you have to complete a questline to be eligible) and they determine how much time you get sentenced to based on a report sheet that lists all of your crimes and notes by the people who reported you.

For example, my report earlier had a few dozen kills on it but they were the same three bots and all of the report notes said "just a bot" or "innocent" etc. Didn't stop all five members of the Jury voting me guilty with a 93 minute sentence (highest sentence on our server all week). One person on the Jury was actually one of the bots I killed and two others were in a troll guild that spends all day in Jury queue just to send people to prison. Even if the other two Jurors had been competent and actually did the job properly (ie read the evidence) and voted innocent I still would have gone to jail.

The entire justice system is pretty much just for trolling.
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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
September 26 2014 16:57 GMT
#625
On September 27 2014 01:55 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 01:14 Incognoto wrote:
That's actually so funny.

How does prison work.


Short answer? It doesn't. The Jury is just an excuse to troll and prison takes five minutes to break out of, so there's really no point to any of it.

Long answer? The server "randomly" picks five people to be the Jury (you have to complete a questline to be eligible) and they determine how much time you get sentenced to based on a report sheet that lists all of your crimes and notes by the people who reported you.

For example, my report earlier had a few dozen kills on it but they were the same three bots and all of the report notes said "just a bot" or "innocent" etc. Didn't stop all five members of the Jury voting me guilty with a 93 minute sentence (highest sentence on our server all week). One person on the Jury was actually one of the bots I killed and two others were in a troll guild that spends all day in Jury queue just to send people to prison. Even if the other two Jurors had been competent and actually did the job properly (ie read the evidence) and voted innocent I still would have gone to jail.

The entire justice system is pretty much just for trolling.


Your forgetting the fact that even if you escape, the buff is disabling.

Also, sometimes you see actually some big sentences. Biggest I seen was something like 580 minutes? No clue what the guy did... But living with the prison debuff for that long must suck...
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 17:05:34
September 26 2014 16:59 GMT
#626
Whats a report note. AFAIK those dont even exist.

Also you have to be a giant dickbag to get such a large sentence, which means lots of criminal points and infamy. You mentioned before you were on your way to becoming a pirate, this is part of that lifestyle, get used to it or be nice? Killing 3 bots a few times doesn't get you 93 minutes in prison, what happened to the other 27 btw you mentioned 30.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 17:01 GMT
#627
On September 27 2014 01:59 Capped wrote:
Whats a report note. AFAIK those dont even exist.


The giant chat box when you report someone? That says something like "Describe what this person did"? You must not have ever reported someone before because it's impossible to miss.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 17:08:13
September 26 2014 17:06 GMT
#628
On September 27 2014 02:01 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 01:59 Capped wrote:
Whats a report note. AFAIK those dont even exist.


The giant chat box when you report someone? That says something like "Describe what this person did"? You must not have ever reported someone before because it's impossible to miss.


Never been offered one of those when ive clicked footsteps / bloodstains. When do they appear?
Useless wet fish.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
September 26 2014 17:15 GMT
#629
they are part of the report window that pops up.

about the jury system, by its nature it is full with the carebears of the game so dont expect anything from the juries
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 17:17:38
September 26 2014 17:17 GMT
#630
You have to be trolling (or attempting to). When you click on a footprint or a bloodstain you get a popup with the following:

Report Crime
Use <x> to report a crime.

[Description box]

Location
Time

Report and Cancel buttons

There's no other way to report and bypass the description box.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 26 2014 17:27 GMT
#631
On September 27 2014 02:17 Serejai wrote:
You have to be trolling (or attempting to). When you click on a footprint or a bloodstain you get a popup with the following:

Report Crime
Use <x> to report a crime.

[Description box]

Location
Time

Report and Cancel buttons

There's no other way to report and bypass the description box.


Your abrasive, "woe is me" posting is getting a bit tiresome to read.

I've personally never written anything into that description box, and it's completely unnecessary to do so in order to report something. It's reasonable to assume that someone could miss it if they just see a box pop up and click "Report" without reading the entire contents of the pop up.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 17:30:33
September 26 2014 17:28 GMT
#632
Honestly never bothered to look i just clicked the report button haha, funny. Went out and found a bloodstain just to see, cant believe i missed it all that time.

Anyway, stop faking that you killed some guys a couple times and got 90 minutes in jail, you've done a lot more then that to get such a long time in there. Sounds shitty about the guys defending the bots or whatever but pvp is pvp and the trial system IS a well known joke.
Useless wet fish.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 17:36 GMT
#633
On September 27 2014 02:28 Capped wrote:
Honestly never bothered to look i just clicked the report button haha, funny. Went out and found a bloodstain just to see, cant believe i missed it all that time.

Anyway, stop faking that you killed some guys a couple times and got 90 minutes in jail, you've done a lot more then that to get such a long time in there. Sounds shitty about the guys defending the bots or whatever but pvp is pvp and the trial system IS a well known joke.


Faking? I recommend PvPing and getting some infamy before commenting on a system you clearly don't understand. Time sentences are based on the amount of lifetime crime points. When you're sitting near 3k infamy it doesn't matter how few people you kill; you're going to get a sentence that lasts hours or days.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8617 Posts
September 26 2014 19:35 GMT
#634
On September 27 2014 00:30 Serejai wrote:
Oh my god, I've never seen a game with a botting situation like this one. People whine and bitch 24/7 about how they can't kill any quest mobs because bots are farming them all, right? So I experienced the same thing and decided to go Bloodlust and just kill off the bots that were farming the quest mobs I needed. There were literally 30+ bots in this one small area in Yny, most of them level 37-39 farming the level 30 quest mobs.

So I kill about a dozen of them and get my quests done, suddenly there's a group of other players that starts attacking me. These fucking morons - two of which were complaining in chat less than an hour earlier about bots everywhere - are trying to gank me for killing the bots. I currently have a group of about 7-8 people of my own faction trying to protect all of the bots in the area and camping me.

This morning I also got a two and a half hour jail sentence for killing bots last night. Literally every note in my report said "Killing bots" and the jury still voted me guilty because why the fuck not?

I just don't understand it at all. In any other MMO I've ever played you get praised for killing bots, pushing them into corners so they get stuck, etc. In this game people whine and bitch about the bots constantly but if you attack them those very same people will immediately switch over and defend the bots.


That's fucking sad. Trolling someone as a jury is one thing but actively protecting bots is inexcusable. Those people should get banned, srsly. First thing I will do, when I reach those levels is hunting down bots. I have done that in Diablo 2 and I think it was much harder to achieve there. That is if I don't run into stupid groups of people protecting them...
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 20:21:53
September 26 2014 20:10 GMT
#635
On September 27 2014 02:36 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 02:28 Capped wrote:
Honestly never bothered to look i just clicked the report button haha, funny. Went out and found a bloodstain just to see, cant believe i missed it all that time.

Anyway, stop faking that you killed some guys a couple times and got 90 minutes in jail, you've done a lot more then that to get such a long time in there. Sounds shitty about the guys defending the bots or whatever but pvp is pvp and the trial system IS a well known joke.


Faking? I recommend PvPing and getting some infamy before commenting on a system you clearly don't understand. Time sentences are based on the amount of lifetime crime points. When you're sitting near 3k infamy it doesn't matter how few people you kill; you're going to get a sentence that lasts hours or days.


Thats kind of the point.

And exactly what i was talking about. You didn't just kill a few bots, you killed, stole and pilfered your way through the entire game up until that point, it isn't going to say "Oh well he killed a couple bots THIS time!" and again, trial is a massive freakin' joke, you should never expect it to actually function properly.

There is some bot report system going around anyway, i see pictures on reddit about GM's PMing people and awarding them labor points for smiting bots, i dont know how though.
Useless wet fish.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 21:23 GMT
#636
There's a spell in your spellbook. It costs 25 labor to report a bot and if they get banned you get your labor back, if not tough shit. I used it three times and the same bots are still around so I doubt it's very effective.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8617 Posts
September 26 2014 21:31 GMT
#637
On September 27 2014 06:23 Serejai wrote:
There's a spell in your spellbook. It costs 25 labor to report a bot and if they get banned you get your labor back, if not tough shit. I used it three times and the same bots are still around so I doubt it's very effective.


lol, for real? That's like anti-anti-bot-measures: Ensure that nobody will report...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22009 Posts
September 26 2014 21:51 GMT
#638
On September 27 2014 06:31 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 06:23 Serejai wrote:
There's a spell in your spellbook. It costs 25 labor to report a bot and if they get banned you get your labor back, if not tough shit. I used it three times and the same bots are still around so I doubt it's very effective.


lol, for real? That's like anti-anti-bot-measures: Ensure that nobody will report...

The report function was getting abused by people getting killed/griefed so they added a Labor cost to it to prevent abuse.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8617 Posts
September 26 2014 22:11 GMT
#639
On September 27 2014 06:51 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 06:31 Miragee wrote:
On September 27 2014 06:23 Serejai wrote:
There's a spell in your spellbook. It costs 25 labor to report a bot and if they get banned you get your labor back, if not tough shit. I used it three times and the same bots are still around so I doubt it's very effective.


lol, for real? That's like anti-anti-bot-measures: Ensure that nobody will report...

The report function was getting abused by people getting killed/griefed so they added a Labor cost to it to prevent abuse.


...

The way of acting against the abuse of the report function is handing out temp bans, which is done for over a decade....
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 26 2014 23:24 GMT
#640
Tonight i discovered this game lets you create your own music.

Does this game know no limits. I learn something fking amazing every day i swear.
Useless wet fish.
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