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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 24 2014 15:34 GMT
#601
On September 25 2014 00:30 Incognoto wrote:
What exactly is APEX?


You buy them in-game for gold, and turn them in for Patron status (game time).
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21675 Posts
September 24 2014 15:34 GMT
#602
On September 25 2014 00:30 Incognoto wrote:
What exactly is APEX?

Apex is an item you buy for real money. When it is used it grants a bunch of in-game cash shop currency.

You buy Apex for real money and then sell it on the Auction house for gold.
The person who bought it with gold then uses the item to gain cash shop currency and can use that currency to buy Patron (subscription).

So long as people are buying and putting Apex on the Auction House it allows you to spend gold to pay for your subscription.

http://www.archeagegame.com/en/news/2014/06/archeage-patron-program-apex/
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 24 2014 15:50 GMT
#603
I'd agree with bland questing. Tbh, I just blasted through that stuff for my gilda and leveling w/o paying too much attention to it (altho, there is a hilarious quest where you bash lizards on the head with a hammer and collect a mysterious liquid, big highlight for me :D). There are the occasional gems in questing, usually revolving around shooting projectiles at people.

Honestly, I'm into the game because I want to fight in pvp zergs, gank reds with my friends, and build a fishing boat and go exploring in the ocean. Trade pack trips are also pretty fun, esp cross continent. The farming part is pretty cool, except that I'm struggling to get land aside from the 7 day temp areas, which I don't want to spend a wood pack on altho I may end up doing that anyways. I've been exploring for unmarked housing areas but it's pretty tedious. Essentially, the only good parts of the game are the ones that aren't in the 'theme park' style of MMO. If you're looking for directed fun and directed epic adventures, you're going to have a shit time in AA, since even the late game dungeons are pretty meh IMO. I think you have to go in with the mindset that you're going to make your own fun. Personally, I get really easily bored with theme park MMO's, so this is the first one that has really gotten my attention.

I def do agree that the leveling experience is pretty bad tho. It feels like busywork to get lvl 50, which is probably the worst thing about this MMO that I've seen so far (ignoring technical issues).
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21675 Posts
September 24 2014 16:38 GMT
#604
On September 25 2014 00:50 barbsq wrote:
I'd agree with bland questing. Tbh, I just blasted through that stuff for my gilda and leveling w/o paying too much attention to it (altho, there is a hilarious quest where you bash lizards on the head with a hammer and collect a mysterious liquid, big highlight for me :D). There are the occasional gems in questing, usually revolving around shooting projectiles at people.

Honestly, I'm into the game because I want to fight in pvp zergs, gank reds with my friends, and build a fishing boat and go exploring in the ocean. Trade pack trips are also pretty fun, esp cross continent. The farming part is pretty cool, except that I'm struggling to get land aside from the 7 day temp areas, which I don't want to spend a wood pack on altho I may end up doing that anyways. I've been exploring for unmarked housing areas but it's pretty tedious. Essentially, the only good parts of the game are the ones that aren't in the 'theme park' style of MMO. If you're looking for directed fun and directed epic adventures, you're going to have a shit time in AA, since even the late game dungeons are pretty meh IMO. I think you have to go in with the mindset that you're going to make your own fun. Personally, I get really easily bored with theme park MMO's, so this is the first one that has really gotten my attention.

I def do agree that the leveling experience is pretty bad tho. It feels like busywork to get lvl 50, which is probably the worst thing about this MMO that I've seen so far (ignoring technical issues).

If your looking for space I believe its this friday that a lot of area should open back up because the properties that didn't pay taxes then go away.

Might be worth it to go around and look what opens up when so you can get there on time to grab it.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 24 2014 16:59 GMT
#605
Servers are back up.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 24 2014 23:31 GMT
#606
I hit 30 and didnt know where to go next so i started farming/crafting/trading. Ended up level 38 and skipping cinder+haly+hellswamp lol. Checked the places for gear and none of it was better than my crafted armor + bought bow (lvl 31 green bow better than 35+ arcanes and crafted what.)

Only thing im lacking on are potions and food which for some reason can only be found from quests, i find that retarded.
Useless wet fish.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
September 24 2014 23:38 GMT
#607
A question way out there. If I kill someone, can I loot their potions and or food? Or anything of that nature?
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
September 24 2014 23:51 GMT
#608
On September 25 2014 00:32 Serejai wrote:
So, thoughts on the game at level 30 (pre-PvP, 1-30 only):

  • Questing is extremely bland and boring, although the overachieving is a nice feature.
  • The world itself is also very bland and boring. There's pretty much zero immersion and I would give this game a 1/10 if I were judging it solely on the lore/world design.
  • The lack of anti-botting features is very disturbing, and on my server about 20% of all other players I've encountered thus far are bots.
  • The chat filter is horrible. Why are words like "MORNING" filtered but "fucking" is not? The filter for Landmark at the start of alpha was thousands of words/terms long. Seems like Trion hasn't actually made an English chat filter yet (which is pretty lazy because it's just a text file the servers read).
  • Skills are pretty boring in PvE. Every pull is essentially the same thing for me; 1 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3. This could be the class I picked but it feels very straightforward and linear. Most of my abilities have absolutely no use at all in leveling.
  • The community is just outright awful. Racist, unhelpful, and everyone is apparently a troll (or tries to be). I'd like to think guilds are better but I haven't seen any recruiting yet so I have no way of knowing.
  • The crafting system appears to be quite bland, but I haven't used it much yet. I was hoping for a more interactive system (like EverQuest 2 and such), but it seems to be a point and click system like World of Warcraft. I feel they dropped the ball here because the farming system is great but isn't complimented very well.
  • Farming is great and is probably the one aspect of this game that actually feels "sandbox" so far.


When I went to start writing this post I had planned on doing a good/bad comparison but I realized I don't really have anything good to say about the game from level 1-30. This isn't really an issue for me because it's stupid to review a game as a whole before hitting max level and doing the "real" content. However, the 1-30 (pre-pvp) content is just really bad and unfortunately that will likely end up hurting the game in a few months. Most players will probably form an opinion of the game by level 15-20 and in my opinion it won't be a good one.

The world PvP and level 50 stuff looks enjoyable, so I was able to trudge through the 1-30 portion of the game but I feel it was very poorly thrown together and a lot of other people probably won't be as forgiving about it as I am (especially those that aren't interested in world pvp, in which 31-50 will be equally boring).

I'm sure someone here will take this out of context and use it to start drama, so I've bolded and increased the size of the first line of this post. If you still take it out of context then you're just outright retarded.

I like the game but I agree with a lot of this. When I first played the game in Alpha it was a lot more fun. Then a few months ago they made a lot of changes. They added in more theme park stuff (moar quests) and slowed the combat down considerably (more HP, 'fixed' ping-dependent skills.. and more). A lot of people, myself included, weren't happy with the changes. I think if the current build was my first exposure to the game I wouldn't be too impressed either.

Still, I really like the open world aspects. Farming is fun, and hiding trees off-farm or hunting down someone else's 'illegal' crops can be exciting. Trials and prison is a neat aspect. Open world PvP is pretty good too. The game is also beautiful to explore, which makes the added emphasis on questing really odd.

*shrug* Hopefully they respond to some of their criticisms and make improvements.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
September 25 2014 13:00 GMT
#609
On September 25 2014 08:31 Capped wrote:
I hit 30 and didnt know where to go next so i started farming/crafting/trading. Ended up level 38 and skipping cinder+haly+hellswamp lol. Checked the places for gear and none of it was better than my crafted armor + bought bow (lvl 31 green bow better than 35+ arcanes and crafted what.)

Only thing im lacking on are potions and food which for some reason can only be found from quests, i find that retarded.


try alchemy and cooking

should be kinda obvious
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 25 2014 13:00 GMT
#610
On September 25 2014 08:38 Shelke14 wrote:
A question way out there. If I kill someone, can I loot their potions and or food? Or anything of that nature?


If they're carrying a trade pack, you can loot the trade pack or steal the pack and turn it in yourself (I think this is the largest motivation for pirates).
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:40:51
September 25 2014 13:36 GMT
#611
For the first time since release (well, 1 night before for me) im logging off to do something else during my free time. I feel ive achieved a whole lot off my own back having my clipper, house, big+small farm, artisan crafted armor and level 40 in just over a week. Also have an epic crest for my cape+sail, it brings out the 10 yr old in me.

Spent a large portion of time helping a guild i am no longer with too, at some point i realized i was being too nice and receiving little in return.

I had to spend alot of time grinding money for everything i currently own though, from level 30-40 its been basically 80% farming/crafting/trade runs for money to purchase my things.

Next target is level 50 and some serious gearing up + pvp :D

Couple screens from the Halycona war i participated in today:

+ Show Spoiler +
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Just occurred to me that the fight went on through the games day/night cycle, thats pretty awesome. The pictures are pretty poor though, couldn't get a good shot of the action.
Useless wet fish.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 25 2014 14:15 GMT
#612
Zoro fanboi spotted! :o
maru lover forever
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#613
My journey to become a pirate is going nicely. I'm uprooting crops and murdering people left and right!
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 25 2014 15:58 GMT
#614
On September 25 2014 22:00 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 08:31 Capped wrote:
I hit 30 and didnt know where to go next so i started farming/crafting/trading. Ended up level 38 and skipping cinder+haly+hellswamp lol. Checked the places for gear and none of it was better than my crafted armor + bought bow (lvl 31 green bow better than 35+ arcanes and crafted what.)

Only thing im lacking on are potions and food which for some reason can only be found from quests, i find that retarded.


try alchemy and cooking

should be kinda obvious


Heh, i didn't think i'd be forced into aspects of crafting i had no interest in to get some basic recovery items. Thats kinda meh then.

-

I feel the fun in 1-30 comes from discovering what the game has to offer, if you're going to sit there and quest without opening your eyes to the game around you then it will be pretty boring. By level 30 i had been amazed by so many different things and i was so eager to do it all, i won't list them all since theres too much. The quests are boring because they are a side attraction, the world is pretty bland but its brought to life by all the things in it.

If by level 30 you've gotten bored and quit, i feel like either the game isn't for you or you've assumed it to be another quest to max level themepark without checking the game out for what it is. Alot of the systems and mechanics in this game run alot deeper then most and i feel people dismiss them before finding that out.
Useless wet fish.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13926 Posts
September 25 2014 16:09 GMT
#615
was outnumered against We are legend by a 4-1 margin but was still kicking ass and taking names. we push them back to their base and start killing the sigil but Wal came out with a teleport next to our base and a guy with 50k larceny so they were able to burn down our base before we were able to burn theirs.

very bitter but this means next time we're going to hold the hot gates.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 25 2014 16:17 GMT
#616
PvP on my server is pretty much dead at the moment. The other faction outnumbers us ten to one and they pretty much have permanent control of everything. I'm not expecting much in the way of large scale group fights.

The upside is that there are PLENTY of people for me to roam around and gank solo.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 19:32:46
September 25 2014 19:32 GMT
#617
How are those new NA servers doing? EU servers started last night ~3 new ones and all of them are low-pop as of right now (8:21pm London time) "up" status.

They should never have bothered opening them imo. My server feels dead enough as it is and it was the first server launched outside of the headstart 4. I was super against the 7th new one they launched on f2p launch night and now they've added 3 more.

Aier has practically zero presence of organised guilds, theres a few guilds with numbers and a bit of grouped pvp but nothing along the lines of large organised forces ready for all out war with eachother, which is what the game is basically going to thrive on come Auroria. I know PRX are on NA and VOTF on EU and im sure they have healthy competition on the larger servers.

I can only imagine the 5 servers opened even later then Aier being alot worse off, i think they'll all be dead, along with Aier (most probably) in a few months. The 3 new ones launched last night almost certainly.

I had plans to reroll on the larger servers once this hype train dissipated before i even saw the state of Aier and it isn't looking good at all. Out of the few notable guilds on west side right now, one is full of botters, one are a bunch of hated loud-mouthed trolls and another is hated for reasons IDK, there aren't much more than 6 i can call to mind.

This population is temporary and says nothing about the actual health of the server, i think its bound for disaster unfortunately.
Useless wet fish.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
September 26 2014 00:15 GMT
#618
they have done server mergers in korea and nothing stops them from doing it here
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 26 2014 15:30 GMT
#619
Oh my god, I've never seen a game with a botting situation like this one. People whine and bitch 24/7 about how they can't kill any quest mobs because bots are farming them all, right? So I experienced the same thing and decided to go Bloodlust and just kill off the bots that were farming the quest mobs I needed. There were literally 30+ bots in this one small area in Yny, most of them level 37-39 farming the level 30 quest mobs.

So I kill about a dozen of them and get my quests done, suddenly there's a group of other players that starts attacking me. These fucking morons - two of which were complaining in chat less than an hour earlier about bots everywhere - are trying to gank me for killing the bots. I currently have a group of about 7-8 people of my own faction trying to protect all of the bots in the area and camping me.

This morning I also got a two and a half hour jail sentence for killing bots last night. Literally every note in my report said "Killing bots" and the jury still voted me guilty because why the fuck not?

I just don't understand it at all. In any other MMO I've ever played you get praised for killing bots, pushing them into corners so they get stuck, etc. In this game people whine and bitch about the bots constantly but if you attack them those very same people will immediately switch over and defend the bots.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 26 2014 16:00 GMT
#620
Maybe bots voted guilty.
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