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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On May 20 2014 15:14 Varanice wrote: Whats the pricing going to be for the game once it's released? Or do we know yet? Free to play. Trion says ArchAge's F2P model is going to be very similar to Rifts model. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On May 20 2014 23:07 KeksX wrote: F2P, purchasable Patron Status and basically a must to subscribe - without it you'll not have much to do in this game. Why? I remember that in Rift Patron only saved you time, it was incredibly useful but not mandatory. Is it different this game? By the way I still have saved for like €30 on ingame store currency in Rift, will I be able to use it in this game? | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 21 2014 02:20 Bojas wrote: Why? I remember that in Rift Patron only saved you time, it was incredibly useful but not mandatory. Is it different this game? By the way I still have saved for like €30 on ingame store currency in Rift, will I be able to use it in this game? Because Patron status will allow you to own land and regenerate labour points in a reasonable amount. If you have neither of those you will miss >60% of the game, basically. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Like me for example. I just wanna fly around and randomly have fun. I don't give a damn about patron status, owning land or even labour points. Hell I'm not gonna spend my scarse free time harvesting whatever material. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 21 2014 17:42 Salteador Neo wrote: 60% exactly lol. Those things might not mean as much to people who just wanna play the game casually as they do to you. Like me for example. I just wanna fly around and randomly have fun. I don't give a damn about patron status, owning land or even labour points. Hell I'm not gonna spend my scarse free time harvesting whatever material. I agree. I dont know what labour points are, but the housing aspect is something I always completely skip in such games. In Rift I was so confused when I found out for how much I could sell some housinng items in the auction house, when I just used to throw them away before lol. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
Crafting, exploring / treasure hunting, getting mail[use the auction house], taming world bosses, raise mounts and build vehicles, ships... Basically, everything that makes this game unique and fun. Then farming and housing, which is a huge part of this game whether you personall like it or not, it IS a major reason for many to play the game, requires both housing rights and labour points. As a Free to Play player, you're left with only the combat part of the game which is fun, of course, but it's not what makes this game so good. The promised "No Tricks No Traps" may hold true, but only because you have the option of gaining all of those through ingame money. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 22 2014 01:37 aTnClouD wrote: I dont get why people want good stuff for free. Companies do not produce great games for charity. Agreed, thats why I think it's a good thing that they create this "quasi P2P" status with their F2P model! | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 22 2014 01:37 aTnClouD wrote: I dont get why people want good stuff for free. Companies do not produce great games for charity. Yeah idk seems so many people are so entitled to these big MMO's and other games for free. It's pathetic xD. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
Trion brought in a crappy cheap development team to create their expansion Storm Legion, that's when Rift died/flopped and introduced biased garbage developers like Daglar. Trion Worlds stated Rift will never go FTP, soon as Rift goes FTP, they started recycling cheap content and focusing on lock box cash shop and milking the community. Trion Worlds has the worst developers, management you can think of. Their lead Rift Developer calls Rifts pvp community disgusting roaches on a daily basis, destroying 95% of Rifts community. Arch Age being managed by Trion Worlds will be a nightmare. I enjoyed the Alpha/Beta of AA, The Korean company creating Arch Age has done a very good job. I just don't Trust Trion to even make it last more then 5 months in the west with their terrible management. I guess Arch Age will be decent as long as Trion hires a 100% new team to localize it. Right now Trion is very small, fired most of their employees, have a handful of devs that try to work on more then 1 game and fails badly. As long as their current Rift devs don't come near Arch Age, I think Arch Age can be a fun MMO. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 22 2014 00:11 KeksX wrote: The point is that you need labour points and housing rights for pretty much everything thats not just mindless instance grinding in this game. Every non-combat action in this game requires labour points: Crafting, exploring / treasure hunting, getting mail[use the auction house], taming world bosses, raise mounts and build vehicles, ships... Basically, everything that makes this game unique and fun. Then farming and housing, which is a huge part of this game whether you personall like it or not, it IS a major reason for many to play the game, requires both housing rights and labour points. As a Free to Play player, you're left with only the combat part of the game which is fun, of course, but it's not what makes this game so good. The promised "No Tricks No Traps" may hold true, but only because you have the option of gaining all of those through ingame money. Well, I would not do the housing / building whatever stuff anyway, no matter if I pay for it or not. So no loss for me whatsoever. If that stuff is what is best about the game, then the "mindless" combart part is probably not very good. For me that was never just a part, but the actual game while the rest is fluff. Of course everyone enjoys something different, but it probably means that this game is not for me. But not because of the payment model. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 22 2014 13:48 LingBlingBling wrote: The Korean company creating Arch Age has done a very good job XLGames has done a semi-terrible job, actually, and almost turned this game into a full-blown themepark game. Jake Song, the original creator, went away to work on a different game and that turned things really, really bad. Right now it's sitting at like Top 50 in KR, and Koreans pretty much forgot about it. The ball is in Trion's hands, and so far they are doing a good job listening to veteran players to fix XLGames' mistake. Trion's version has the potential to become the best ArcheAge version out there. I've been following ArcheAge for a few years now, I can honestly say that after all the terrible management by Trion in the past, they've started to change and I'm looking forward to the EU/NA release. On May 22 2014 19:12 Redox wrote: Well, I would not do the housing / building whatever stuff anyway, no matter if I pay for it or not. So no loss for me whatsoever. If that stuff is what is best about the game, then the "mindless" combart part is probably not very good. For me that was never just a part, but the actual game while the rest is fluff. Of course everyone enjoys something different, but it probably means that this game is not for me. But not because of the payment model. You can argue about the combat part being good, but you will not get a mount without LP, you will not be able to receive mails(and thus the auction house) without LP. You will not be able to trade, create or even sell trade packages, without LP(HUGE part of the Open World PvP). The list goes on. It's not just the "fluff" part you'll be missing, but essential game mechanics as well. If you want to enjoy ArcheAge, you have to pay. And as stated by others before: Thats perfectly reasonable. | ||
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On June 05 2014 18:00 amd098 wrote: So. If you report bots, you can get suspended or put in jail for abusing the report button. They've also oversold the game, the servers are at 3x capacity. So if you want to get a plot of land, you have to deal with bots who get them the second they are available. If you want to be a crafter in this instead of pvp or pve, you're out of luck as they would rather you deal with botters instead of taking action against them. Hackshield just needs to die in a fire. It's not helping at all with this. | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
In addition, there have been many great free to Play games that have had success, such as Path of Exile, Team Fortress 2, and DotA 2. Because it works, it makes sense that people would want to play them over other games. Sure, it wouldn't work if noone paid anything, but that's not the case, and many people —particularly those who are too young, or don't play very often, or are playing with a friend — are content with riding on the backs of others. | ||
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Boggler
Canada234 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/549/Archeage-Closed-Beta-Event-2-Setting-Sail.html and http://www.curse.com/betas/archeage-beta-key-giveaway Around 6k beta keys on mmorpg.com as of this post. Currently, the f2p model is a bit rocky. I hope they improve it. The combat at least is fun-ish to me, so the grinding isn't the worst thing ever. But as with any other mmorpg, there is definitely grinding. I'm hoping they have the changes up for this beta so I can see what they are planning for f2p, but unsure what changes this beta will have. I know that the APEX system is supposed to exist in archeage too, but I really don't know how the pricing will work out. | ||
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