EPTBite on every pump fake,
Allow players to be wide open underneath the basket,
Hope they miss.
Edit.
+Don't understand the high screen.
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Bite on every pump fake, Allow players to be wide open underneath the basket, Hope they miss. Edit. +Don't understand the high screen. | ||
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scaban84
United States1080 Posts
---- Well that game was just cray cray. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
I see your clutch 3 Jason Terry and I raise you a Chauncy Billups. It's super effective. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On January 19 2012 15:04 cLutZ wrote: Clippers defense: Bite on every pump fake, Allow players to be wide open underneath the basket, Hope they miss. Edit. +Don't understand the high screen. Why Clips need defense? | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
Defense wins championships ;D | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Or at least games against teams not crippled by oldness. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
Which to watch!?!? I think I'll have to watch the SOTG vod  | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On January 20 2012 03:56 JohnnyBanana wrote: SOTG tonight @ 7pm, and LAL vs MIA @ 8pm. Which to watch!?!? I think I'll have to watch the SOTG vod Multitasking, man! I have the same problem :D On January 20 2012 03:32 zulu_nation8 wrote: anyone see marshon brooks coming before this season? still early but he seems like the real deal Well, I drafted him on my fantasy team, does that count? :D Didn't expect him to put up that good numbers, but he's getting double-digit points, lots of rebounds and a couple of steals every night, so I can't complain! .. though it must be said that he's playing for the Nets, it might be a case of "bad team, good player stats".. but I think he's legit from what I've seen! :D | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 20 2012 03:56 JohnnyBanana wrote: SOTG tonight @ 7pm, and LAL vs MIA @ 8pm. Which to watch!?!? I think I'll have to watch the SOTG vod TV = Mute. SOTG= Laptop with sound. NBA announcers are mostly worthless, SOTG visuals are mostly worthless. Match made in heaven. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218429/Westbrook_Signs_$80M_Extension_With_Thunder#ixzz1jw8kV7RP" Thabo isn't worth as much as you think he does, unless he has Tony Allen syndrome, where he thinks being a wing defender on a team that happened to make it deep in the playoffs somehow entitles him to more than other wing defending specialists. Harden and Ibaka certainly do not deserve as much money as Durant and Westbrook, if that's what you are inferring. edit: Maynor isn't that good either...I'd be much more worried about the winner Nazr Mohammed | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Kevin Durant: $18.7 million Russ Westbrook: $14 million Kendrick Perkins: $8.5 million =$41.2 million dollars That brings us to Harden, who deserves Manu Ginobili (or Russell Westbrook haha,) money. And he'll get it. There's no way they can tack on another contract $12 million dollar/year contract long term. He's gone. Also, Maynor,Sefalosha and Ibaka both make around $3.5 million. All expire next season, well, technically, Ibaka and Maynor are QAs but they need extensions. Are they going to get less that 3.5? No way. Sefalosha can pull in $5 million easy as a Hustle and D guy. Easy. Ibaka will probably get a long term deal because of his youth and athleticism. Maynor will get more that $3.5 for sure. Those guys are legit players. You can win with these guys in a rotation and teams will take them off OKC's hand. You can't keep quality like that for very long in the NBA. Portland had this issue, OKC is now having this issue. Next up? Indiana and Minnesota. Your mens gots to get paid. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Maynor isn't worth the headache, he is a good player, but he thinks he is better than he is, if he would rather start on a shitty team than back up a contender, than that will be his own choice. Of course, he plays against bench players, so he over inflates his own value. Have him playing Derrick Rose instead of CJ Watson and you'll see he isn't worth any notable source of income. If Harden deserves Manu money, then he will be happy to take a back loaded contract worth 40 million over 5 years, just like Manu. Jason Terry is a better 5th man and made less than 10million every year except last. One year he made 6.6 million due to the balance of the contract. Ibaka is the only player worth double digit millions next free agency, and thats because size always gets paid. Will they lose a player or two to free agency? Probably, but who cares about replaceable guards. They are exactly that, replaceable. Edit: Manu just signed his contract for roughly 12/year, but proved himself on a contract worth 40million over 5, to which the spurs then gave him raise as he became the face of the franchise. Also he starts. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:14 Holcan wrote: Sefalosha is easily replaced through the draft or through FA, if he chooses to demand more than OKC can offer him, his talent of defense and shooting three's isn't a rarity Maynor isn't worth the headache, he is a good player, but he thinks he is better than he is, if he would rather start on a shitty team than back up a contender, than that will be his own choice. Of course, he plays against bench players, so he over inflates his own value. Have him playing Derrick Rose instead of CJ Watson and you'll see he isn't worth any notable source of income. If Harden deserves Manu money, then he will be happy to take a back loaded contract worth 40 million over 5 years, just like Manu. Jason Terry is a better 5th man and made less than 10million every year except last. One year he made 6.6 million due to the balance of the contract. Ibaka is the only player worth double digit millions next free agency, and thats because size always gets paid. Will they lose a player or two to free agency? Probably, but who cares about replaceable guards. They are exactly that, replaceable. You're largely agree with you, except on two points, one explicit and one implicit. Explicit: James Harden is really good. Manu Ginobili makes around 13 million (I think? Give or take 1 Million.) He's never been seriously hurt, he's got great size, good explosiveness and he's young. He's got handles, he can score, he can play off the ball, he can produce assists. He's so much better than Jason Terry right now that it hurt my head. He's in his third year! It's not a fair comp. Harden's best comp is Manu. You're crazy if you think he's worth 8 million a year. That's just wrong. That's what John Salmons makes. Implicit: The fungibility of talent like Sefolosha, Ibaka and Maynor. Are they once in a lifetime? Obviously not. Sefolosha is a 3 and D guy who can't even hit his 3s. But those kinds of players get stupidly expensive in free agency. Once you lose cost control, you lose the value. I think we agree on that. My point, was that once these guys leave, OKC has to replace them. Either by increasing costs or by taking lesser talent. They will, most likely, replace them with lesser players. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13537 Posts
Not a big deal for most on here as they Bucks are an irrelevant team in the NBA as it stands today. They do have two assets though in Bogut and Jennings. The latest rumour has Bogut involved in a three team trade that would send Dwight to LA: Orlando is looking for a 3rd team to make a blockbuster deal and apparently love Bogut. So Howard to LA, Bynum to Milwaukee, Bogut to Orlando. Maybe some fillers in there. That would be a pretty epic trade with three of the league's best big man swapping teams. I'm not sure it's a great deal for Orlando or Milwaukee, but I guess that would be inevitable when trading Dwight. Bynum has the obvious injury concerns and I'm not sure how he'd take going from LA to Milwaukee. He'd also have to be a #1 option and I don't know if he's good enough to be that guy. If the Magic are trying to fill a Dwight void with Bogut, it's a bad move. Bogut is as good a defender as Dwight, but his offense is very limited since his horrific fall in 2010. He's got a very fair contract, but Orlando will regress and be no closer to contending. LA is the big, big winner obviously. They get Dwight and they only have to give up Bynum to get it done. Filler is obviously mentioned, but I doubt it would include anything significant (certainly not Pau for example). Anyone think this trade has any merit? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On January 20 2012 09:25 slyboogie wrote: You're largely agree with you, except on two points, one explicit and one implicit. Explicit: James Harden is really good. Manu Ginobili makes around 13 million (I think? Give or take 1 Million.) He's never been seriously hurt, he's got great size, good explosiveness and he's young. He's got handles, he can score, he can play off the ball, he can produce assists. He's so much better than Jason Terry right now that it hurt my head. He's in his third year! It's not a fair comp. Harden's best comp is Manu. You're crazy if you think he's worth 8 million a year. That's just wrong. That's what John Salmons makes. Implicit: The fungibility of talent like Sefolosha, Ibaka and Maynor. Are they once in a lifetime? Obviously not. Sefolosha is a 3 and D guy who can't even hit his 3s. But those kinds of players get stupidly expensive in free agency. Once you lose cost control, you lose the value. I think we agree on that. My point, was that once these guys leave, OKC has to replace them. Either by increasing costs or by taking lesser talent. They will, most likely, replace them with lesser players. Manu took an average of 8 million to prove himself, and work towards a contending team. Only recently did he take a raise up to 36 over 3 when he signed an extension after proving himself, not before. There isn't a 6th man alive outside of Lamar Odom (due to size) that is worth over 10 million. Jason Terry and Manu Ginobili were given extensions on their old contracts which allowed them to inflate to over 10 million. Also once this happened, these players shifted to becoming the face of the franchise, at least Manu definitely did, and Jason Terry became the side pistol to Dirks rifle. Harden is not the #1 option, nor the #2 option like Terry and Manu are. He certainly doesn't deserve more money than either, perhaps in the future once he earns it, but not now. 8 Million is plenty for a player whose yet to prove himself as anyone but someone who scores buckets against the other teams bench. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On January 20 2012 10:12 Holcan wrote: Manu took an average of 8 million to prove himself, and work towards a contending team. Only recently did he take a raise up to 36 over 3 when he signed an extension after proving himself, not before. There isn't a 6th man alive outside of Lamar Odom (due to size) that is worth over 10 million. Jason Terry and Manu Ginobili were given extensions on their old contracts which allowed them to inflate to over 10 million. Also once this happened, these players shifted to becoming the face of the franchise, at least Manu definitely did, and Jason Terry became the side pistol to Dirks rifle. Harden is not the #1 option, nor the #2 option like Terry and Manu are. He certainly doesn't deserve more money than either, perhaps in the future once he earns it, but not now. 8 Million is plenty for a player whose yet to prove himself as anyone but someone who scores buckets against the other teams bench. Uninjured manu in his prime was worth way more than 10 million. His stats are very similar to Kobes per possession, but he's a more efficient shooter (probably because his 3 point percentage is much better). His rebounding stats are about the same, assists slightly lower, higher steals. He's also just as proven a winner, for a stretch the best player on the best team (Argentina) in the world. He also had this weird stat where he didn't have a weak side of the floor. Ricky Rubio's worth more than 10 million, if he were a free agent. | ||
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