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fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
November 29 2011 18:35 GMT
#301
GUys, check this out, that's a really fun AAR, laugh my ass off reading it all...


http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?568678-A-Descent-into-Madness-A-Random-EU-3-AAR&s=212e6263542f8334d320647259f5e5df
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
November 29 2011 18:38 GMT
#302
I want to play!
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
November 29 2011 19:15 GMT
#303
I claim my spot :D

I will play tomorrow :D so get ready already for my aar :D
UF fight!
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 04:53:01
November 30 2011 02:35 GMT
#304
Whoops, didn't check TL yesterday and missed my slot. Since Stolat isn't playing until tomorrow anyways, I'll play 20 years tonight and stolat is free to use it or not use it if he wants.

edit: Screw that, playing rebel whack-a-mole with so many unconnected provinces isn't fun. Got about 10 years in and was just finishing a PU war against Bohemia, but it just got frustrating.

Some tips for the next player:

-I was able to increase my income by 1000 by switching my traders to richer CoTs, destroying the CoT in Brescia, moving towards Free Trade, building mints on Liguria, Venezia, and Athens (destroy the CoTs first), and taking National Trade Policy.

-Bohemia has 6 years left on a regency council and their legitimacy will remain sub-50 until their heir comes of age, so you can use a spy to Fabricate Claims (and you have a 90% chance to succeed). You have time to get to Land Tech 27, Government Tech 25, and recover 3 stability (swapping an NI, if you want to) before the war. Poland is their ally, but in my game they backstabbed bohemia by ignoring the CtA and then declaring war on them.

-There are lots of random units stuck in your armies. To fix this, hunt through and delete all the muslim units, and switch your infantry to Men At Arms, Maurician Infantry, Tercio Infantry, and then back to Charge Infantry, and switch your artillery to Culverins and then back to Chambered Demi Cannons.

+ Show Spoiler [Suggestions for a future game] +
I realize that different people have different skill levels, interests, etc, but it seems like this was utter chaos. I'd suggest you guys try to follow whatever the last person did a bit more, even if it isn't optimal, and most importantly focus on one or two areas rather than taking random provinces all over the place. It's a lot easier to defend an empire and control rebels if it looks less like this:

(This game, February 23 1613)
[image loading]

and more like this:

(Some random Venice->Italy game of mine, March 2 1636)
[image loading]

Note that everything has a land connection (except for islands, obviously) which not only improves income but also makes things a lot easier to manage, and I haven't colonized in the Americas since my main focus is in Asia.
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
November 30 2011 08:32 GMT
#305
hey Pewt just play today if u got time, or just send me save u got by now
UF fight!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 30 2011 08:39 GMT
#306
the reason the empire looks so weird is because people have been taking the 'easy' expansion routes rather than making nicer borders. controlling all the of the med should of been/has been our goal since day 1!
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 11:57:08
November 30 2011 10:48 GMT
#307
Alright, 12 years through. Just got a PU with bohemia and am getting one with brandenburg. Honestly, I'm about ready to just sell all these stupid overseas provinces since they do nothing but cost me prestige when they inevitably revolt, and the only thing keeping me from doing it is knowing I'm only playing this country for 20 years.

--

It's easy to have sane borders and still take good CBs; for example, in my second screenshot the reason I went the way I did was because I wanted to make the most out of the Holy War CB while it still existed.

--

Edit: Alright, finished. Stuff I did:

-PU Bohemia, Bavaria, and Brandenburg (BBB!).

-Ally some vassals.

-Get rid of all the special units.

-Vastly improve our trade.

-Build manpower buildings.

-Annex Urbino.

-Bribe GB and Poland so they don't hate our guts.

-Restructure the army.

-Let South America get occupied by particularist rebels (seriously, it's indefensible and not even worth the money put into it... free it if you want, but particularist rebels don't actually do anything and it strikes me as far more effort than it's worth).

Save: http://www.mediafire.com/?ko59qr7rxl4v65c

Diplomacy Map: http://i.imgur.com/ShtLf.png
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 13:05:54
November 30 2011 13:00 GMT
#308
I don't really understand the problems you have with rebels in far away countries. Just station a regiment there, and it can take care of basically all of america. Maybe give it 10 cogs, and it can take care of both middle and south america. If you ferry it all the way from europe, every time, that can't really work. If your empire get large enough, you need to station your army accordingly, and not only have stuff in your mainland.

Sure, it is easy to holy war your way through asia take what you want, and PU half of europe. That does not mean that it is particularly interesting if you have done it once.

The reason our empire looks the way it does is because it has a history. One guy want to take the Holy land, the next one wants some of greece, or someone want american colonies. Not everyone favours a blobbed up continental empire, even though that is the easiest to kill rebels in. Just spread your army out accordingly, and you can basically defend an empire of any shape. And if an important war starts, you can still get your stuff back together (or fight on many different fronts if your enemy is as spread out as you, but most likely you won't reallly need all of the army anyways at this point.

From what i see, our american colonies are in pretty rich areas with good tradegoods, too. Maybe you could fight a few colonial wars to link up south and middle america if you want to.

Plus, please more reports. Just take a look at the first few, and then compare them to the last few. We basically got 2 guys saying they will post an AAR later, but who never did, and some pretty short ones.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 30 2011 13:31 GMT
#309
its ok. this was everyones first go at something like this. when this run is done we can just start a new game and everyone will know what to do with their aaaaaaarring

will be super fun reads :D
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
November 30 2011 13:36 GMT
#310
My point was mostly that there seems to be a lot of people who are not really putting an effort in it. Like for example not posting one at all, or just posting 5 lines of keywords without any narrative or even whole sentences.
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
November 30 2011 16:10 GMT
#311
I got small problem, as i want to create nice history - i have tried to put some nice screenshots - but i am unable to! I got win7 and all my screenshots are made of destkop or any site is opened in background? Any solution to this?

I am 5 years in my reign and i`m about to go to big war ;>
UF fight!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 16:16:29
November 30 2011 16:14 GMT
#312
Don't use the windows screenshot function, use F11/F12 ingame. F11 produces a Screenshot, F12 a map of the world. These should be in the Screenshot folder in your game directory, but apparently some versions of windows hide them somewhere else.

The reason for that is that a lot of programs look through fullscreened programs. You could circumvent that by going windowed fullscreen via console, which is needed if you f.E. want to stream EU3, but that leads to other problems.
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 17:20:39
November 30 2011 17:16 GMT
#313
On November 30 2011 22:00 Simberto wrote:
I don't really understand the problems you have with rebels in far away countries. Just station a regiment there, and it can take care of basically all of america. Maybe give it 10 cogs, and it can take care of both middle and south america. If you ferry it all the way from europe, every time, that can't really work. If your empire get large enough, you need to station your army accordingly, and not only have stuff in your mainland.
Because it's a huge pain in the ass, involves praying that someone doesn't randomly declare war with a bigger navy than you, involves using a fair chunk of units for something not particularly useful, and at the end of the day even after all the effort you're still behind someone doing something which makes sense.

Sure, it is easy to holy war your way through asia take what you want, and PU half of europe. That does not mean that it is particularly interesting if you have done it once.

It's pretty impossible to avoid getting irreversibly stronger than the AI unless you just sit on your hands and do nothing at all (as this game demonstrates perfectly). If you want a challenge, you probably shouldn't be playing SP. By about 5 years into my session I could've singlehandedly beaten the majority of Europe at once, and that's even with wishy-washy sliders, random pointless territory everywhere, etc.

The reason our empire looks the way it does is because it has a history. One guy want to take the Holy land, the next one wants some of greece, or someone want american colonies. Not everyone favours a blobbed up continental empire, even though that is the easiest to kill rebels in. Just spread your army out accordingly, and you can basically defend an empire of any shape. And if an important war starts, you can still get your stuff back together (or fight on many different fronts if your enemy is as spread out as you, but most likely you won't reallly need all of the army anyways at this point.
You don't *have* to be a blobbed up continental empire, you just have to be *something*. If you want to be a naval empire with colonies across the americas then great, but then why do you have Iraq and Hungary? I wasn't criticizing the fact that we had colonies, I was criticizing the fact that we have colonies *and* 4 Hungarian provinces *and* random worthless provinces in the middle east *and* the southern tip of India etc. I guess you can be a random blob of scattered provinces if your favourite parts of the game are rebel hunting and/or doing nothing, but that's about the only advantages of that layout and it doesn't even give some sort of roleplaying advantage or anything.

From what i see, our american colonies are in pretty rich areas with good tradegoods, too. Maybe you could fight a few colonial wars to link up south and middle america if you want to.

South America is fairly respectable as far as production goes, but it comes with associated costs (maintaining a big navy, spending lots of money on development, maintaining a constant garrison etc) which our country didn't really have the resources to do thanks to its wishy-washy sliders and lack of focus.
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
November 30 2011 17:52 GMT
#314
its ok got my screens and now I have joined big war ;>
UF fight!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 30 2011 18:10 GMT
#315
random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 30 2011 18:55 GMT
#316
On December 01 2011 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D

Take Mallaca! Great CoT there!
"Yeah buddy"
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
December 01 2011 08:39 GMT
#317
On December 01 2011 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D

Malacca, Sri Lanka, Java, and Taiwan are all better options.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 01 2011 11:10 GMT
#318
On December 01 2011 17:39 Pewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2011 03:10 turdburgler wrote:
random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D

Malacca, Sri Lanka, Java, and Taiwan are all better options.


there are 1000 provinces "better" than the ones we took at all stages of the game. im just pointing out bitching about random indian province makes no sense :d
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 11:33:15
December 01 2011 11:30 GMT
#319
I don't get the complaints...

Just have a stack of ~10k Men stationed in SA --> No more problems with Rebels for a long time? At least that’s how I tend to handle this, if I own all of SA 3-5 stacks of 10-15k Troops seem ok to take care of "normal" high-amounts of Rebels (so 10%-20%).
And defending them against a "normal" opponent is also no problem? You might don't want to go to war with England when it comes to colonies/naval but else?
I won several colonial wars whiteout a (fighting) navy at all... It just takes a loong time ^^.
I mean.. You might can't fight the opponents Navy head on, but if you got standing armies everywhere this doesn't matter?

Actually England is seirously like the only country you should not go to war with when not having a huge navy and thats just because it is hard to get a good peace whiteout invading Brittain.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 01 2011 14:02 GMT
#320
Next game should be with Maldives.

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