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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
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Stolat
Poland241 Posts
I will play tomorrow :D so get ready already for my aar :D | ||
Pewt
Canada201 Posts
edit: Screw that, playing rebel whack-a-mole with so many unconnected provinces isn't fun. Got about 10 years in and was just finishing a PU war against Bohemia, but it just got frustrating. Some tips for the next player: -I was able to increase my income by 1000 by switching my traders to richer CoTs, destroying the CoT in Brescia, moving towards Free Trade, building mints on Liguria, Venezia, and Athens (destroy the CoTs first), and taking National Trade Policy. -Bohemia has 6 years left on a regency council and their legitimacy will remain sub-50 until their heir comes of age, so you can use a spy to Fabricate Claims (and you have a 90% chance to succeed). You have time to get to Land Tech 27, Government Tech 25, and recover 3 stability (swapping an NI, if you want to) before the war. Poland is their ally, but in my game they backstabbed bohemia by ignoring the CtA and then declaring war on them. -There are lots of random units stuck in your armies. To fix this, hunt through and delete all the muslim units, and switch your infantry to Men At Arms, Maurician Infantry, Tercio Infantry, and then back to Charge Infantry, and switch your artillery to Culverins and then back to Chambered Demi Cannons. + Show Spoiler [Suggestions for a future game] + I realize that different people have different skill levels, interests, etc, but it seems like this was utter chaos. I'd suggest you guys try to follow whatever the last person did a bit more, even if it isn't optimal, and most importantly focus on one or two areas rather than taking random provinces all over the place. It's a lot easier to defend an empire and control rebels if it looks less like this: (This game, February 23 1613) ![]() and more like this: (Some random Venice->Italy game of mine, March 2 1636) ![]() Note that everything has a land connection (except for islands, obviously) which not only improves income but also makes things a lot easier to manage, and I haven't colonized in the Americas since my main focus is in Asia. | ||
Stolat
Poland241 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Pewt
Canada201 Posts
-- It's easy to have sane borders and still take good CBs; for example, in my second screenshot the reason I went the way I did was because I wanted to make the most out of the Holy War CB while it still existed. -- Edit: Alright, finished. Stuff I did: -PU Bohemia, Bavaria, and Brandenburg (BBB!). -Ally some vassals. -Get rid of all the special units. -Vastly improve our trade. -Build manpower buildings. -Annex Urbino. -Bribe GB and Poland so they don't hate our guts. -Restructure the army. -Let South America get occupied by particularist rebels (seriously, it's indefensible and not even worth the money put into it... free it if you want, but particularist rebels don't actually do anything and it strikes me as far more effort than it's worth). Save: http://www.mediafire.com/?ko59qr7rxl4v65c Diplomacy Map: http://i.imgur.com/ShtLf.png | ||
Simberto
Germany11517 Posts
Sure, it is easy to holy war your way through asia take what you want, and PU half of europe. That does not mean that it is particularly interesting if you have done it once. The reason our empire looks the way it does is because it has a history. One guy want to take the Holy land, the next one wants some of greece, or someone want american colonies. Not everyone favours a blobbed up continental empire, even though that is the easiest to kill rebels in. Just spread your army out accordingly, and you can basically defend an empire of any shape. And if an important war starts, you can still get your stuff back together (or fight on many different fronts if your enemy is as spread out as you, but most likely you won't reallly need all of the army anyways at this point. From what i see, our american colonies are in pretty rich areas with good tradegoods, too. Maybe you could fight a few colonial wars to link up south and middle america if you want to. Plus, please more reports. Just take a look at the first few, and then compare them to the last few. We basically got 2 guys saying they will post an AAR later, but who never did, and some pretty short ones. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
will be super fun reads :D | ||
Simberto
Germany11517 Posts
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Stolat
Poland241 Posts
I am 5 years in my reign and i`m about to go to big war ;> | ||
Simberto
Germany11517 Posts
The reason for that is that a lot of programs look through fullscreened programs. You could circumvent that by going windowed fullscreen via console, which is needed if you f.E. want to stream EU3, but that leads to other problems. | ||
Pewt
Canada201 Posts
On November 30 2011 22:00 Simberto wrote: Because it's a huge pain in the ass, involves praying that someone doesn't randomly declare war with a bigger navy than you, involves using a fair chunk of units for something not particularly useful, and at the end of the day even after all the effort you're still behind someone doing something which makes sense.I don't really understand the problems you have with rebels in far away countries. Just station a regiment there, and it can take care of basically all of america. Maybe give it 10 cogs, and it can take care of both middle and south america. If you ferry it all the way from europe, every time, that can't really work. If your empire get large enough, you need to station your army accordingly, and not only have stuff in your mainland. Sure, it is easy to holy war your way through asia take what you want, and PU half of europe. That does not mean that it is particularly interesting if you have done it once. It's pretty impossible to avoid getting irreversibly stronger than the AI unless you just sit on your hands and do nothing at all (as this game demonstrates perfectly). If you want a challenge, you probably shouldn't be playing SP. By about 5 years into my session I could've singlehandedly beaten the majority of Europe at once, and that's even with wishy-washy sliders, random pointless territory everywhere, etc. The reason our empire looks the way it does is because it has a history. One guy want to take the Holy land, the next one wants some of greece, or someone want american colonies. Not everyone favours a blobbed up continental empire, even though that is the easiest to kill rebels in. Just spread your army out accordingly, and you can basically defend an empire of any shape. And if an important war starts, you can still get your stuff back together (or fight on many different fronts if your enemy is as spread out as you, but most likely you won't reallly need all of the army anyways at this point. You don't *have* to be a blobbed up continental empire, you just have to be *something*. If you want to be a naval empire with colonies across the americas then great, but then why do you have Iraq and Hungary? I wasn't criticizing the fact that we had colonies, I was criticizing the fact that we have colonies *and* 4 Hungarian provinces *and* random worthless provinces in the middle east *and* the southern tip of India etc. I guess you can be a random blob of scattered provinces if your favourite parts of the game are rebel hunting and/or doing nothing, but that's about the only advantages of that layout and it doesn't even give some sort of roleplaying advantage or anything.From what i see, our american colonies are in pretty rich areas with good tradegoods, too. Maybe you could fight a few colonial wars to link up south and middle america if you want to. South America is fairly respectable as far as production goes, but it comes with associated costs (maintaining a big navy, spending lots of money on development, maintaining a constant garrison etc) which our country didn't really have the resources to do thanks to its wishy-washy sliders and lack of focus. | ||
Stolat
Poland241 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On December 01 2011 03:10 turdburgler wrote: random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D Take Mallaca! Great CoT there! | ||
Pewt
Canada201 Posts
On December 01 2011 03:10 turdburgler wrote: random southern tip of india = trading company = a must for EVERYONE :D Malacca, Sri Lanka, Java, and Taiwan are all better options. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 01 2011 17:39 Pewt wrote: Malacca, Sri Lanka, Java, and Taiwan are all better options. there are 1000 provinces "better" than the ones we took at all stages of the game. im just pointing out bitching about random indian province makes no sense :d | ||
Velr
Switzerland10716 Posts
Just have a stack of ~10k Men stationed in SA --> No more problems with Rebels for a long time? At least that’s how I tend to handle this, if I own all of SA 3-5 stacks of 10-15k Troops seem ok to take care of "normal" high-amounts of Rebels (so 10%-20%). And defending them against a "normal" opponent is also no problem? You might don't want to go to war with England when it comes to colonies/naval but else? I won several colonial wars whiteout a (fighting) navy at all... It just takes a loong time ^^. I mean.. You might can't fight the opponents Navy head on, but if you got standing armies everywhere this doesn't matter? Actually England is seirously like the only country you should not go to war with when not having a huge navy and thats just because it is hard to get a good peace whiteout invading Brittain. | ||
Fruscainte
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