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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 03:35:03
January 14 2012 03:23 GMT
#101
So some fixes to the MISERY mod.

Firstly, you may notice that this is actually an obesity simulator. You can only jog for about 3 seconds before your stamina runs out if you missed your third breakfast or are carrying just a tidbit too much, and you need to eat every 3 seconds before you become exhausted and near starvation.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\stalker call of pripyat\gamedata\configs\creatures look for actor. Then lower the walk power and the walk weight power in notebook and save. Default for both of them is 0.00005 if I recall correctly.

If you don't want to wake up on the brink of starvation after a 2 hour nap, in the same actor.ltx file go to satiety_v_sleep and mess around a bit with that. I don't know the specific vanilla number, sadly, but I just put it on some random number and it's a lot better now. Remember, the smaller the number the less effects from sleep starvation.

In gamedata/configs/misc/trade go through the multiple traders, I think there's only 3 of them that you need to do this to. They all have the minimum durability of an item at 95% before they will buy it. Hint, that's basically impossible to do cost efficiently and it's completely unrealistic. I put them at a straight 65-75% (depending on the vendor) to keep it with the spirit of the mod, but without the bullshit.

Anyways, some Misery gameplay tips. Firstly, holy shit save that fucking ammo. You start out with ONE magazine for your main weapon. Mainhand weapon ammo is fucking harder to find than the release date of Half Life 3. You will get a fucking cargo ship worth of pistol ammo, too bad it's shit until you get a colt or something. Anyways, use your knife to take down leapy motherfuckers and take your time. Zombies have basically aimbots and only die to headshots. Literally, only headshots. So if you don't go Marksman, prepare your body.

Secondly, ALWAYS buy Porridge instead of Bread. Porridge can bring you from yellow food to max instantly, and only costs 10-20RU more than bread. It's definitely worth the investment 100%. Create stashes of weapons and shit and save them. Later on when you get more dosh, you can repair them en masse and then sell them to Owl and get loads of money returned if you do it with a big enough load.

Oh yeah, and do not under any circumstance do the job for that guy in the beginning to ambush the STALKERS. You are pretty much guaranteed to die, because in the 4 times I attempted it I encountered at least two bloodsuckers with only 30 5.56 NATO rounds and like twenty 9mm rounds. Definitely was not a fun experience to have in pitch black. Oh yeah, night time is literally pitch black. That's my major gripe with this mods graphics. It has fucking fantastic volumetric and dynamic lighting during the day -- but at night, damn did he drop the ball. There is no way in hell that an area like that should be THAT dark, plain and simple. It's not a huge deal, but it's frustrating.

Oh well, shouldn't be going out at night anyways

And I wouldn't recommend using the binoculars. They sometimes cause you to crash. And if you're a steam user, prepare for long as fuck loading times. Hopefully the creator releases some patches. I had to wait ~3 minutes for the "New Game" to unfreeze and go to the loading screen my first time.

Overall a decent mod. 7.5//10. 8/10 with the .lxt and .txt edits, and can easily be 10/10 with some patches.

And yes, I know I'm making this game effectively easier. However, there is a fine line between realism and just utter stupidity. STALKER is awesome because it's realistic in the sense of its gunplay and combat, but unrealistic in basically everything else. As fun as it would be to have to eat 8 square meals a day while sleeping on rigid schedules and spending 99% of my time searching for the 2kg of food in the entire zone, that's frankly just a waste of time for myself. I love this mod in every other facet of how it basically makes CoP into what it should have been. However, some of the changes are just redundant and makes me think they didn't really test it as much as they should have or didn't have great testers.

Because when I did that first STALKER mission my first time, I said "I'm ready" and then it faded away and I was over at the ship like the mission goes. However, I could not see ANYTHING because I was "starving" for not eating for like 10 hours and when I walked (not ran or sprinted, walked) for ~20 feet my character was literally unable to move as 4 bloodsuckers raped me a new asshole.

Anyways, 4-5 hours in and having a damn blast.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
January 14 2012 06:57 GMT
#102
I think you are just a bit unlucky with the stalker ambush mission. I did it no problem and even walked back home just fine afterwards. Waking up to that mission with no food in my stomach was ridiculous though.

Anyone else notice that aiming down the sight is messed up? I think it's purposeful too.
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DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
January 14 2012 10:55 GMT
#103
I think i'll wait till theres patches for those problems..speaking of which, maybe they're already out?
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:15:27
January 14 2012 15:15 GMT
#104
On January 14 2012 15:57 Fontong wrote:
I think you are just a bit unlucky with the stalker ambush mission. I did it no problem and even walked back home just fine afterwards. Waking up to that mission with no food in my stomach was ridiculous though.

Anyone else notice that aiming down the sight is messed up? I think it's purposeful too.


What do you mean messed up?

They explicitly took out zooming in, if that's what you mean. But I don't notice anything else.

And maybe I was I just remember being stuck in place from exhaustion and 4 bloodsuckers -- every time -- just wrecking me and my one magazine of ammunition.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 06:32:42
January 15 2012 06:25 GMT
#105
What the fuck dude? I'm playing vanilla shadow of chernobyl and I just got to the end of the first dungeon where you find strelok's stash. I was walking down this extremely suspicious corridor and some dude threw his face at me or something and killed me. No idea what happened but it was scary as hell.

I also saw what I believe was my first bloodsucker, are they the tentacled guys who turn invisible? I turned around because I thought he was flanking me from the left and sure enough there's a shimmer behind me, my reaction was like

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Unfortunately the military guys killed it so I didn't get the encyclopedia info.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
January 15 2012 06:41 GMT
#106
some dude threw his face at me


ah I lol'd. That must have been a controller. You have to hide behind stuff to break its grasp on your mind, then pop out quickly and shoot at it. If you can someone get into close quarters, it has a really shitty melee attack and shotgun blasts to the head are quite good against most anything.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
January 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#107
haha @ threw his face

I'm liking the Misery mod, it's a bitch though in terms of healing and prolonged sojourns outside of safe areas. Most convenient thing I've found so far in terms of equipment is the good ol' Kobolok and a -4 radiation artifact. Constant healing ftw.

Ammo is also a bitch, using a shotgun as your primary helps. Zombies are honestly too strong, or rather far far far too accurate with their weapons. They should be super hard to kill, but aimbot accuracy is a terrible way to do it.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
January 15 2012 09:06 GMT
#108
On January 15 2012 15:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
What the fuck dude? I'm playing vanilla shadow of chernobyl and I just got to the end of the first dungeon where you find strelok's stash. I was walking down this extremely suspicious corridor and some dude threw his face at me or something and killed me. No idea what happened but it was scary as hell.

I also saw what I believe was my first bloodsucker, are they the tentacled guys who turn invisible? I turned around because I thought he was flanking me from the left and sure enough there's a shimmer behind me, my reaction was like

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Unfortunately the military guys killed it so I didn't get the encyclopedia info.


Yes.
As for the telepathic guy, just hide behind a wall (run further down tunnel), wait for cooldown on his mind attack (1~ second) and take potshots/grenades. You can lean in STALKER can't you? I forget.
Die tomorrow - Live today
GoooN
Profile Joined August 2010
217 Posts
January 15 2012 09:36 GMT
#109
Or walk backwards towards him and stab him with your knife cos his telepathic attacks don't work in melee range and when you don't face him.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
January 15 2012 15:51 GMT
#110
Is it just me or are there far more anomaly's than normal?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 16 2012 03:42 GMT
#111
is there a good graphics mod? Im pretty happy with the vanilla gameplay so far so the 2009 complete mod doesn't quite sound like what I want, but I'd love those visual changes. The weather ones seem good too.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
January 16 2012 03:55 GMT
#112
On January 16 2012 12:42 UniversalSnip wrote:
is there a good graphics mod? Im pretty happy with the vanilla gameplay so far so the 2009 complete mod doesn't quite sound like what I want, but I'd love those visual changes. The weather ones seem good too.


2009 doesn't do really anything other than make it Stalker: Call of Duty Version and put an extra load on your computer for a marginal graphical increase. There are dedicated graphics mods with a far lesser load and do a far better job without altering gameplay. Just google around a bit, as I personally don't have them favorited or anything -- but I know for a fact they exist from friends using them.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 17 2012 04:31 GMT
#113
Installed some and the difference is... quite dramatic.

I also just ran into a nasty bug, I rescued that scientist guy kruglov from wolf's mercenaries but when I got to the end of the tunnel, he just teleported to my side and stands there with his pistol out and won't talk to me... I don't have a recent save either. Sigh. Can't get those sweet scientist rewards.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
January 19 2012 00:55 GMT
#114
Welp.

Looks like it's time for me to reinstall.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
January 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#115
I've a habit of quicksaving probably every ~20 seconds in Stalker games. After playing the buggy vanilla version...making a full save very often + frequent quick saves is the way to go
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
February 10 2012 16:57 GMT
#116
I had some shit come up and forgot about MISERY. Excellent

.. and there's already a patch
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19200 Posts
February 10 2012 19:30 GMT
#117
I bought these in the 2010 steam sale and still haven't found time to play them yet. :|
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
February 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#118
Oh the woes of a gamer. haha.
They really are brilliant games. Really good for a stormy night.

Aaaaand Misery is fucking difficult
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
February 10 2012 19:48 GMT
#119
On January 14 2012 12:23 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
So some fixes to the MISERY mod.

Firstly, you may notice that this is actually an obesity simulator. You can only jog for about 3 seconds before your stamina runs out if you missed your third breakfast or are carrying just a tidbit too much, and you need to eat every 3 seconds before you become exhausted and near starvation.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\stalker call of pripyat\gamedata\configs\creatures look for actor. Then lower the walk power and the walk weight power in notebook and save. Default for both of them is 0.00005 if I recall correctly.

If you don't want to wake up on the brink of starvation after a 2 hour nap, in the same actor.ltx file go to satiety_v_sleep and mess around a bit with that. I don't know the specific vanilla number, sadly, but I just put it on some random number and it's a lot better now. Remember, the smaller the number the less effects from sleep starvation.

In gamedata/configs/misc/trade go through the multiple traders, I think there's only 3 of them that you need to do this to. They all have the minimum durability of an item at 95% before they will buy it. Hint, that's basically impossible to do cost efficiently and it's completely unrealistic. I put them at a straight 65-75% (depending on the vendor) to keep it with the spirit of the mod, but without the bullshit.

Anyways, some Misery gameplay tips. Firstly, holy shit save that fucking ammo. You start out with ONE magazine for your main weapon. Mainhand weapon ammo is fucking harder to find than the release date of Half Life 3. You will get a fucking cargo ship worth of pistol ammo, too bad it's shit until you get a colt or something. Anyways, use your knife to take down leapy motherfuckers and take your time. Zombies have basically aimbots and only die to headshots. Literally, only headshots. So if you don't go Marksman, prepare your body.

Secondly, ALWAYS buy Porridge instead of Bread. Porridge can bring you from yellow food to max instantly, and only costs 10-20RU more than bread. It's definitely worth the investment 100%. Create stashes of weapons and shit and save them. Later on when you get more dosh, you can repair them en masse and then sell them to Owl and get loads of money returned if you do it with a big enough load.

Oh yeah, and do not under any circumstance do the job for that guy in the beginning to ambush the STALKERS. You are pretty much guaranteed to die, because in the 4 times I attempted it I encountered at least two bloodsuckers with only 30 5.56 NATO rounds and like twenty 9mm rounds. Definitely was not a fun experience to have in pitch black. Oh yeah, night time is literally pitch black. That's my major gripe with this mods graphics. It has fucking fantastic volumetric and dynamic lighting during the day -- but at night, damn did he drop the ball. There is no way in hell that an area like that should be THAT dark, plain and simple. It's not a huge deal, but it's frustrating.

Oh well, shouldn't be going out at night anyways

And I wouldn't recommend using the binoculars. They sometimes cause you to crash. And if you're a steam user, prepare for long as fuck loading times. Hopefully the creator releases some patches. I had to wait ~3 minutes for the "New Game" to unfreeze and go to the loading screen my first time.

Overall a decent mod. 7.5//10. 8/10 with the .lxt and .txt edits, and can easily be 10/10 with some patches.

And yes, I know I'm making this game effectively easier. However, there is a fine line between realism and just utter stupidity. STALKER is awesome because it's realistic in the sense of its gunplay and combat, but unrealistic in basically everything else. As fun as it would be to have to eat 8 square meals a day while sleeping on rigid schedules and spending 99% of my time searching for the 2kg of food in the entire zone, that's frankly just a waste of time for myself. I love this mod in every other facet of how it basically makes CoP into what it should have been. However, some of the changes are just redundant and makes me think they didn't really test it as much as they should have or didn't have great testers.

Because when I did that first STALKER mission my first time, I said "I'm ready" and then it faded away and I was over at the ship like the mission goes. However, I could not see ANYTHING because I was "starving" for not eating for like 10 hours and when I walked (not ran or sprinted, walked) for ~20 feet my character was literally unable to move as 4 bloodsuckers raped me a new asshole.

Anyways, 4-5 hours in and having a damn blast.

Btw I found (AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST BECAUSE ITS PATCH 2) my experience so far completely the opposite of yours. I've made money easily enough through tedious selection of valuable weapons and repair kits, I have no problem with eating being realistic and a meal a day is cutting it and finally I have 25 rounds in my Mosin. That makes me lethal enough to kill any stalker twice and take down a group of bandits no problem.

A harder target would require additional ammo.. so if I was inclined to attack a blood sucker I would bring a different load out.

I'm enjoying the difficulty and the tactics it forces you to actually use instead of just different shades of run and gun.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
February 10 2012 20:19 GMT
#120
On February 11 2012 04:48 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 12:23 Candadar wrote:
So some fixes to the MISERY mod.

Firstly, you may notice that this is actually an obesity simulator. You can only jog for about 3 seconds before your stamina runs out if you missed your third breakfast or are carrying just a tidbit too much, and you need to eat every 3 seconds before you become exhausted and near starvation.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\stalker call of pripyat\gamedata\configs\creatures look for actor. Then lower the walk power and the walk weight power in notebook and save. Default for both of them is 0.00005 if I recall correctly.

If you don't want to wake up on the brink of starvation after a 2 hour nap, in the same actor.ltx file go to satiety_v_sleep and mess around a bit with that. I don't know the specific vanilla number, sadly, but I just put it on some random number and it's a lot better now. Remember, the smaller the number the less effects from sleep starvation.

In gamedata/configs/misc/trade go through the multiple traders, I think there's only 3 of them that you need to do this to. They all have the minimum durability of an item at 95% before they will buy it. Hint, that's basically impossible to do cost efficiently and it's completely unrealistic. I put them at a straight 65-75% (depending on the vendor) to keep it with the spirit of the mod, but without the bullshit.

Anyways, some Misery gameplay tips. Firstly, holy shit save that fucking ammo. You start out with ONE magazine for your main weapon. Mainhand weapon ammo is fucking harder to find than the release date of Half Life 3. You will get a fucking cargo ship worth of pistol ammo, too bad it's shit until you get a colt or something. Anyways, use your knife to take down leapy motherfuckers and take your time. Zombies have basically aimbots and only die to headshots. Literally, only headshots. So if you don't go Marksman, prepare your body.

Secondly, ALWAYS buy Porridge instead of Bread. Porridge can bring you from yellow food to max instantly, and only costs 10-20RU more than bread. It's definitely worth the investment 100%. Create stashes of weapons and shit and save them. Later on when you get more dosh, you can repair them en masse and then sell them to Owl and get loads of money returned if you do it with a big enough load.

Oh yeah, and do not under any circumstance do the job for that guy in the beginning to ambush the STALKERS. You are pretty much guaranteed to die, because in the 4 times I attempted it I encountered at least two bloodsuckers with only 30 5.56 NATO rounds and like twenty 9mm rounds. Definitely was not a fun experience to have in pitch black. Oh yeah, night time is literally pitch black. That's my major gripe with this mods graphics. It has fucking fantastic volumetric and dynamic lighting during the day -- but at night, damn did he drop the ball. There is no way in hell that an area like that should be THAT dark, plain and simple. It's not a huge deal, but it's frustrating.

Oh well, shouldn't be going out at night anyways

And I wouldn't recommend using the binoculars. They sometimes cause you to crash. And if you're a steam user, prepare for long as fuck loading times. Hopefully the creator releases some patches. I had to wait ~3 minutes for the "New Game" to unfreeze and go to the loading screen my first time.

Overall a decent mod. 7.5//10. 8/10 with the .lxt and .txt edits, and can easily be 10/10 with some patches.

And yes, I know I'm making this game effectively easier. However, there is a fine line between realism and just utter stupidity. STALKER is awesome because it's realistic in the sense of its gunplay and combat, but unrealistic in basically everything else. As fun as it would be to have to eat 8 square meals a day while sleeping on rigid schedules and spending 99% of my time searching for the 2kg of food in the entire zone, that's frankly just a waste of time for myself. I love this mod in every other facet of how it basically makes CoP into what it should have been. However, some of the changes are just redundant and makes me think they didn't really test it as much as they should have or didn't have great testers.

Because when I did that first STALKER mission my first time, I said "I'm ready" and then it faded away and I was over at the ship like the mission goes. However, I could not see ANYTHING because I was "starving" for not eating for like 10 hours and when I walked (not ran or sprinted, walked) for ~20 feet my character was literally unable to move as 4 bloodsuckers raped me a new asshole.

Anyways, 4-5 hours in and having a damn blast.

Btw I found (AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST BECAUSE ITS PATCH 2) my experience so far completely the opposite of yours. I've made money easily enough through tedious selection of valuable weapons and repair kits, I have no problem with eating being realistic and a meal a day is cutting it and finally I have 25 rounds in my Mosin. That makes me lethal enough to kill any stalker twice and take down a group of bandits no problem.

A harder target would require additional ammo.. so if I was inclined to attack a blood sucker I would bring a different load out.

I'm enjoying the difficulty and the tactics it forces you to actually use instead of just different shades of run and gun.


Yeah, after two patches it's much better. My post was describing how to fix it at release, when it was literally walk 5 feet and be out of breath and shit.
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