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WC3 vs. SC race comparison

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bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
April 06 2005 17:51 GMT
#1
Which race in wc3 is the most similar in playstyle to Terran? A race that is powerful if you are capable of abusing its power such as having high apm and good multitask skills.

What about for Toss and Zerg? I'm willing to give wc3 a try if it sounds interesting.
boy_toril
Profile Joined February 2005
Philippines19 Posts
April 06 2005 18:04 GMT
#2
I dont play that
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RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
April 06 2005 18:20 GMT
#3
Human is really micro intensive but there's a lot of power in the race if you can multitask well and probably has most in common with Terran. Certainly high tech human on equal economy will pretty much destroy anything it comes up against if you micro it well.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51490 Posts
April 06 2005 18:39 GMT
#4
during 1.14? human was more like zerg because it could always easily fast expo and harass pretty easily.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51490 Posts
April 06 2005 18:40 GMT
#5
if your P = NE
T = ORC/HU
Z = UD/HU
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Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
April 06 2005 19:36 GMT
#6
On April 07 2005 03:40 GTR-2-Go wrote:
if your P = NE
T = ORC/HU
Z = UD/HU


interesting comparing ne with p, i was p in bw and now I'm ne in war3 and I don't really think they're alike, but I'm not that experienced in war3.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51490 Posts
April 06 2005 19:39 GMT
#7
well

nearly every P player from BW converted into NE in WC3

i.e

Didi (P) -> Didi (NE)
Anyppi (P) -> Anyppi (NE)
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aus.icy
Profile Joined December 2004
Australia64 Posts
April 06 2005 19:49 GMT
#8
noone else has ever played p...
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
April 06 2005 21:35 GMT
#9
how the fuck can HU = T and Z???

they play TOTALLY differently in starcraft. I've not played WC3 so i honestly don't know, but i'm really curious as to how a macro race with shit units (zerg) can also be a micro race with powerful units (terran).

I guess terran in vanilla was a macro race too (in TvZ at least), but still.....
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Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
April 06 2005 23:38 GMT
#10
the macro part of the human race is similiar to the one zerg has, both are able to fast expand quickly (although NE's are getting better and better at this point too) and the human tier 1 units are pretty crappy. but that doesn't change the fact that human is a race that requires a lot of micro unlike orc.
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
April 07 2005 00:02 GMT
#11
Human are definitely Z, by the end of the game you have about twice as many units than any other race that require a lot of micro.

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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
April 07 2005 00:43 GMT
#12
ok cool thx guys =]
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
April 07 2005 01:17 GMT
#13
I don't think there is any truly correct comparison, but to me it always felt something like this:

Orc - Reminds me a lot of Protoss. Their units take up more supply and are generally stronger. A lot of their units require considerable micro to be truly efficient.

Human - Clearly Terran, but it does have a hint of Zerg in it due to having a slightly higher supply (because of Peasants) and their ability to expand easily.

Undead - A Protoss/Zerg hybrid. Build like Protoss, has the Zerg creep. Ghouls are cheap and weak just like Zerglings almost. However, their supply is generally a little lower than other races, and they require a LOT of micro to use efficiently (this is excluding hero nuking of course). They also don't need as many expansions, much like Protoss against a non-Terran.

Night Elf - This is definitely the most unique of races... partially Zerg because of the way they build, and their mass expansion tendencies that have developed, but also because their units are a bit weaker than the rest (until tier 3 or so).


Anyway, that's just an outline of some of my opinions. There are so many ways to look at this though.
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Crystal
Profile Joined March 2005
Belarus78 Posts
April 07 2005 02:14 GMT
#14
Totally agree with Orlandu xcept Humans have nothing to do with Zerg whatsoever.
they are terrans head to feet-.-
Jumpingworm
Profile Joined January 2004
Netherlands481 Posts
April 07 2005 02:17 GMT
#15
Hmm, dunno I believe humans are kinda like zerg because of the fact that they need to fast expo to really be strong (1 base is still viable of course), you have lots of small units and tier 1 = crap units, but when you get to tier 2 you're easily able to own (like the muta & lurk zerg gets at tier 2)

They're still more alike to T of course but I personally do see similarities with hu & z

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WaweR
Profile Joined September 2004
Poland45 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-07 03:09:18
April 07 2005 03:07 GMT
#16
Terran = Ne

Only beacue both races are best in their games imho =]

Protoss = Orc

Powerfull units, mmm could be more but I`m lazy

Zerg = Human and Undead

Footies and Ghouls similar to Lings, rifles and fiends could be hydras, fast exp popular in both in Zerg and Human Zerg and Undead both have creep :>


Didn`t think much writing it, did it for fun
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expostfacto
Profile Joined December 2002
United States365 Posts
April 07 2005 05:04 GMT
#17
protoss = orc is the only one that's clear-cut at all... like orlandu said, relatively expensive, high-supply units.
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
April 07 2005 06:27 GMT
#18
I've thought of the more used strats or unit combinations and their specific micro requirements and this is how I see it:

Human - rifle caster - marine&medic - Terran
Undead - ghouls gargs - muta ling - Zerg
Orc - grunt rush - zeal rush - Protoss (not as similar though )
Night Elf - clueless - me at Starcraft

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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
April 07 2005 08:23 GMT
#19
TBH I don't think races can be compared cross games at all, but here's my picks and reasons:

P - Orc. Expensive but strong units available from the get go and usable for the whole game.
Z - Elf. Units tend to be cheap-ish and high damage but easy to kill
T - Undead. Requires you to get the most out of your units and money, because expansion is generally difficult. UD is also good at defense because of their strong towers and blight. Good at harrassment, but rarely a strong macro race.

IMO, Undead requires the most multitasking, since a UD player frequently relies on both harrassment and creeping simultaneously. Orc sometimes harrasses too, but I don't think its so central. Hu/Elf tend to go for the expansion and mass it up due to strong towers, fast building, or walking trees.
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-04-07 10:11:28
April 07 2005 10:04 GMT
#20
here's my opinion but plz take into consideration that i've never played wc3:
Terran is like NE b/c they both own at pro level and in TvZ, Terran's double rax --> CC is strong as hell.

however there's another side to it:
back when BW skills we're still increasing, Grrr can still abuse Toss power simply with carriers or reavers. no Terran had the micro/macro/multitask skills required to beat Grrr until after a few years, the likes of Nada, Xellos,oov and dozens of other Terrans perfected these keyboard/mouse skills.

more or less, the people that own at NE as of now could be the Giyom of SC as before, if we are to compare the age of WC3 and BW.

so a question to WC3 players:
Which one race do you think will highly increase in potential and raise the skills dramatically a few years down the road? (similar to Terrans then, and Terrans now)
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