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I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later.
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had a great game today where a fake KennyS said how bad I was, bla bla after I killed him in warmup and then I aced on the pistol round loool. Crushed them all game god that was a fun game. (p.s. he wasn't wrong I am terrible)
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later.
Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins 
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On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins
The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.)
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Hyrule19193 Posts
That's the point of joining a team, which will practice and stuff
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i literally cried when i see kHRYSTAL streaming along with THREAT 
Lemondogs forever!
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Just got my 4th ace ever!
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There are rumours about EG signing ex-LDLC !
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On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.)
No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken.
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On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken.
lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money.
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On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money.
You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system.
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On February 02 2015 09:21 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money. You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system.
A lot of the people that came to esea and started with like .2 or .3 fpr still either have those stats or improved very little after months. You can't improve by playing better players if you don't even know the basics. Someone who at least has crosshair placement, doesn't run around staring at the ground, understands how nades work, knows the map and common spots will improve exponentially playing on esea. Someone who literally has no idea what they are doing will hit a wall.
You forget that people in 1.6 (and source) played on pub servers when they first got the game. Once they started feeling comfortable there they went and got on mIRC and started looking for scrims (or bought esea if we're talking about the later days of 1.6). Now people just buy csgo and play 200 hours and buy esea and complain when they go 5-20 every pug. I put in hundreds of hours into pub servers in source before I got esea and when I came into esea I had a .7 to .8 fpr, not a .3 like the majority of the new players nowadays.
Either way to me it doesn't matter because the more newer players the more kills I get in pugs so its whatever, but if someone asked me how to get better I would almost never recommend esea to anyone under at least dmg, and even then that's still kinda low.
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On February 02 2015 09:24 SyNc` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 09:21 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money. You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system. A lot of the people that came to esea and started with like .2 or .3 fpr still either have those stats or improved very little after months. You can't improve by playing better players if you don't even know the basics. Someone who at least has crosshair placement, doesn't run around staring at the ground, understands how nades work, knows the map and common spots will improve exponentially playing on esea. Someone who literally has no idea what they are doing will hit a wall. You forget that people in 1.6 (and source) played on pub servers when they first got the game. Once they started feeling comfortable there they went and got on mIRC and started looking for scrims (or bought esea if we're talking about the later days of 1.6). Now people just buy csgo and play 200 hours and buy esea and complain when they go 5-20 every pug. I put in hundreds of hours into pub servers in source before I got esea and when I came into esea I had a .7 to .8 fpr, not a .3 like the majority of the new players nowadays. Either way to me it doesn't matter because the more newer players the more kills I get in pugs so its whatever, but if someone asked me how to get better I would almost never recommend esea to anyone under at least dmg, and even then that's still kinda low.
Okay, but the conversation was concerning sub-MGE/DMG, not a fresh silver who just bought the game playing his first 100 hours. The basics will not be learned regardless of whether you play ESEA, MM, or even casual unless you're actively applying yourself and going out of your way to learn. Once a player has reached a point where they know what they should be doing and an idea of how to practice (which occurs much lower than DMG/MGE), then they will benefit more from fighting higher opponents; Especially if they record demos and analyze them, which pretty very few people are willing to do anyways. Additionally, the 1.6 comparison was to highlight the fact that skill levels varied tremendously.
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On February 02 2015 09:45 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 09:24 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 09:21 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money. You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system. A lot of the people that came to esea and started with like .2 or .3 fpr still either have those stats or improved very little after months. You can't improve by playing better players if you don't even know the basics. Someone who at least has crosshair placement, doesn't run around staring at the ground, understands how nades work, knows the map and common spots will improve exponentially playing on esea. Someone who literally has no idea what they are doing will hit a wall. You forget that people in 1.6 (and source) played on pub servers when they first got the game. Once they started feeling comfortable there they went and got on mIRC and started looking for scrims (or bought esea if we're talking about the later days of 1.6). Now people just buy csgo and play 200 hours and buy esea and complain when they go 5-20 every pug. I put in hundreds of hours into pub servers in source before I got esea and when I came into esea I had a .7 to .8 fpr, not a .3 like the majority of the new players nowadays. Either way to me it doesn't matter because the more newer players the more kills I get in pugs so its whatever, but if someone asked me how to get better I would almost never recommend esea to anyone under at least dmg, and even then that's still kinda low. Okay, but the conversation was concerning sub-MGE/DMG, not a fresh silver who just bought the game playing his first 100 hours. The basics will not be learned regardless of whether you play ESEA, MM, or even casual unless you're actively applying yourself and going out of your way to learn. Once a player has reached a point where he knows what he should be doing and an idea of how to practice them (which occurs much lower than DMG/MGE), then he will benefit more from fighting higher opponents. Additionally, the 1.6 comparison was to highlight the fact that skill levels varied tremendously.
The original post said it wasn't worth it for anyone under mge/dmg, to which you replied it was definitely worth it. In my opinion, esea is not worth it to anyone under LE/LEM but I believe that if you're at least dmg then you can find a way to improve though it. It will take a while, as a lot of people around dmg will get esea and have trouble adapting to the playstyles and skill of others on esea. Anything under that it is absolutely not worth it as you will just get smashed in every pug and people will just flame you. I have a few friends in dmg and some of them have no idea what they're doing either. Although, I honestly don't have much experience with people at that rank so I can't say much more than that, maybe there are good dmg players. All I know is from what I see on esea, LEM is where people start holding their own in pugs. At this level, people can actually start to compete and look for open teams.
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On February 02 2015 09:50 SyNc` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 09:45 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 09:24 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 09:21 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money. You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system. A lot of the people that came to esea and started with like .2 or .3 fpr still either have those stats or improved very little after months. You can't improve by playing better players if you don't even know the basics. Someone who at least has crosshair placement, doesn't run around staring at the ground, understands how nades work, knows the map and common spots will improve exponentially playing on esea. Someone who literally has no idea what they are doing will hit a wall. You forget that people in 1.6 (and source) played on pub servers when they first got the game. Once they started feeling comfortable there they went and got on mIRC and started looking for scrims (or bought esea if we're talking about the later days of 1.6). Now people just buy csgo and play 200 hours and buy esea and complain when they go 5-20 every pug. I put in hundreds of hours into pub servers in source before I got esea and when I came into esea I had a .7 to .8 fpr, not a .3 like the majority of the new players nowadays. Either way to me it doesn't matter because the more newer players the more kills I get in pugs so its whatever, but if someone asked me how to get better I would almost never recommend esea to anyone under at least dmg, and even then that's still kinda low. Okay, but the conversation was concerning sub-MGE/DMG, not a fresh silver who just bought the game playing his first 100 hours. The basics will not be learned regardless of whether you play ESEA, MM, or even casual unless you're actively applying yourself and going out of your way to learn. Once a player has reached a point where he knows what he should be doing and an idea of how to practice them (which occurs much lower than DMG/MGE), then he will benefit more from fighting higher opponents. Additionally, the 1.6 comparison was to highlight the fact that skill levels varied tremendously. The original post said it wasn't worth it for anyone under mge/dmg, to which you replied it was definitely worth it. In my opinion, esea is not worth it to anyone under LEM but I believe that if you're at least dmg then you can find a way to improve though it. Anything under that it is absolutely not worth it as you will just get smashed in every pug and people will just flame you. I have a few friends in dmg and a lot of them have no idea what they're doing either. I honestly don't have much experience with people at that rank so I can't say much more than that, but from what I see on esea, LEM is where people start holding their own in pugs.
Yeah, but the players you were describing who had no basic mechanics/knowledge of map and strategies sounded more like silver level players than sub-DMG. If there are DMG's who lack these then all I could do is throw my hands up and wonder how they got there in the first place.
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On February 02 2015 09:53 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 09:50 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 09:45 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 09:24 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 09:21 rd wrote:On February 02 2015 07:34 SyNc` wrote:On February 02 2015 05:48 rd wrote:On February 01 2015 19:33 Capped wrote:On February 01 2015 19:28 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 01 2015 18:14 wussleeQ wrote:
I don't get why when someone is blatantly hacking super hard (can't cross through mid without getting walled in the head even with 5 people rushing) that they don't get insta banned by valve. I really am questioning on whether or not I should continue playing this game when hacks as blatant as this can go on for 10+ rounds and the only penalty really is someone losing a throwaway X amount of games later. Match making isn't real counter-strike and can never be real counter-strike. It's meant to be a casual environment for those who are not ready for 3rd party services, where real counter-strike has been played for over a decade. Just play CEVO, Faceit, or ESEA and start looking for a team to join. That's where the real fun begins The trouble with that is that 3rd party matchmaking isnt worth it until you're MGE/DMG+, you'll just get smashed over and over again before that and it wont offer much fun or improvement. (Well, perhaps not the case with FACEIT but Cevo and ESEA are a different level.) No it's definitely worth it. You might get smashed and not have much fun but if your goal is to get better and learn, the best way to learn is to have your mistakes severely punished. Fighting players of equal skill lets you get away with them and develops habits which must later be broken. lol it's definitely not worth it. you aren't going to learn anything if you go 5-20 every pug because you don't even get to practice anything. A lot of the newer players on esea have no idea what they're doing, where to look, how to aim, etc. If you are already around dmg then yes esea would help you but if you are silver or something then you are just wasting your money. You will learn exponentially faster fighting players significantly better than you as opposed to players of even or very slightly better skill. How else would anyone in 1.6 have gotten anywhere without an MM system. A lot of the people that came to esea and started with like .2 or .3 fpr still either have those stats or improved very little after months. You can't improve by playing better players if you don't even know the basics. Someone who at least has crosshair placement, doesn't run around staring at the ground, understands how nades work, knows the map and common spots will improve exponentially playing on esea. Someone who literally has no idea what they are doing will hit a wall. You forget that people in 1.6 (and source) played on pub servers when they first got the game. Once they started feeling comfortable there they went and got on mIRC and started looking for scrims (or bought esea if we're talking about the later days of 1.6). Now people just buy csgo and play 200 hours and buy esea and complain when they go 5-20 every pug. I put in hundreds of hours into pub servers in source before I got esea and when I came into esea I had a .7 to .8 fpr, not a .3 like the majority of the new players nowadays. Either way to me it doesn't matter because the more newer players the more kills I get in pugs so its whatever, but if someone asked me how to get better I would almost never recommend esea to anyone under at least dmg, and even then that's still kinda low. Okay, but the conversation was concerning sub-MGE/DMG, not a fresh silver who just bought the game playing his first 100 hours. The basics will not be learned regardless of whether you play ESEA, MM, or even casual unless you're actively applying yourself and going out of your way to learn. Once a player has reached a point where he knows what he should be doing and an idea of how to practice them (which occurs much lower than DMG/MGE), then he will benefit more from fighting higher opponents. Additionally, the 1.6 comparison was to highlight the fact that skill levels varied tremendously. The original post said it wasn't worth it for anyone under mge/dmg, to which you replied it was definitely worth it. In my opinion, esea is not worth it to anyone under LEM but I believe that if you're at least dmg then you can find a way to improve though it. Anything under that it is absolutely not worth it as you will just get smashed in every pug and people will just flame you. I have a few friends in dmg and a lot of them have no idea what they're doing either. I honestly don't have much experience with people at that rank so I can't say much more than that, but from what I see on esea, LEM is where people start holding their own in pugs. Yeah, but the players you were describing who had no basic mechanics/knowledge of map and strategies sounded more like silver level players than sub-DMG.
Yeah, that's just the point I was trying to bring up. Lots of people that are silver-MG tend to buy esea for whatever reasons and think that it'll help them improve. I'm all for people buying it if they have basics down, but a LOT of people on esea don't. I don't mind giving people advice either, and generally never yell at them but some of the players i see honestly don't even know what game they're playing. Its so bad that I just alt tab so I don't have to watch them play.
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That's probably because they give out ESEA keys like air every day. ESEA shouls probably start dividing things by bracket/rating, but then again they may not have enough people.
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On February 02 2015 10:24 Souma wrote:
That's probably because they give out ESEA keys like air every day. ESEA shouls probably start dividing things by bracket/rating, but then again they may not have enough people.
They have enough people, they went from 15k premium users at the start of 2014 to like 31k as of 1 month ago. The problem is their motto is and always will be "play with the pros" so they refuse to have pugs for specific rws brackets.
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