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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 17:25:06
October 07 2014 17:24 GMT
#12581
On October 07 2014 02:37 Capped wrote:
^ Me and everyone i know use that callout :o
Yes, everyone does. That's why it's confusing, because for some it means looking at B house, and for most others it means looking towards CT spawn.

On October 08 2014 01:44 Kotreb wrote:
Anyone have any helpful tips about spraying? I feel like i'm the shittiest sprayer in the game. Can't win much spray fights :/
I tried practicing on aim map (aim dark), but is there any other way to practice? Some other map or mod or anything?

btw, apparently cs zombies mod just got released today XD
Custom game and type "sv_show impacts 1" in console is a great help/
Generally speaking you only need to know how fast and steady to pull down the mouse for the first 7 bullets for AK and M4. Though sometimes you have to face down 3 or more simultaneously especially as CT, it will be useful to learn the entire pattern.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 17:31:25
October 07 2014 17:30 GMT
#12582
On October 08 2014 02:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:37 Capped wrote:
^ Me and everyone i know use that callout :o
Yes, everyone does. That's why it's confusing, because for some it means looking at B house, and for most others it means looking towards CT spawn.

Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 01:44 Kotreb wrote:
Anyone have any helpful tips about spraying? I feel like i'm the shittiest sprayer in the game. Can't win much spray fights :/
I tried practicing on aim map (aim dark), but is there any other way to practice? Some other map or mod or anything?

btw, apparently cs zombies mod just got released today XD
Custom game and type "sv_show impacts 1" in console is a great help/
Generally speaking you only need to know how fast and steady to pull down the mouse for the first 7 bullets for AK and M4. Though sometimes you have to face down 3 or more simultaneously especially as CT, it will be useful to learn the entire pattern.


its 10 bullets for ak and m4. But in general, follow this video



and

The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2077 Posts
October 07 2014 17:59 GMT
#12583
On October 08 2014 01:44 Kotreb wrote:
Anyone have any helpful tips about spraying? I feel like i'm the shittiest sprayer in the game. Can't win much spray fights :/
I tried practicing on aim map (aim dark), but is there any other way to practice? Some other map or mod or anything?

btw, apparently cs zombies mod just got released today XD

You could try hosting a LAN server (On bot match menu, choose no bots). Then open up your console and type sv_cheats 1 and sv_showimpacts 1. You should now have pink bullet holes on your game. Then get a weapon ("give weapon_m4a1" on console for example), pick some good spot on the map and start spraying a wall. While standing still, you should be able to hold AK and M4 bursts pretty steadily on one area. You can also try stuff like strafe-stop-burst-strafe.

And then just keep playing around until you start to get hang of it. The same empty server stuff is useful if you want to try out some smokes or flashes too.

I think there was some trickery to get console working in CS:GO, but I can't remember the exact process. I think you might have to enable it from the options and then add the keybinding to your key layout. Once enabled, it should probably be on your tilde key (or whichever key you picked in options).

Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 07 2014 18:03 GMT
#12584
Watching CS tournaments has become a complete fucking nightmare. I think 9 of the last 10 events I've watched were crippled by insanely frequent DDOS's or other technical issues. Like not one matches goes without an interruption. And it's often more than that. It's sad =/
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
October 07 2014 18:05 GMT
#12585
DDOSers saving starcraft by killing CS?
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 07 2014 18:06 GMT
#12586
Is it that hard to defend against DDOS? (serious question)
Writer
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 07 2014 18:09 GMT
#12587
On October 08 2014 03:06 Souma wrote:
Is it that hard to defend against DDOS? (serious question)


is there a reason why we have IT jobs in this world?


hint: yes, for the same reasons why people can't deal with DDOS
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
October 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#12588
Thanks for the replies guys. Will definitely try them out. Found out there is also a map only for spray so i'm gonna post it here in case somebody finds it useful.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=263843113&searchtext=recoil
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 07 2014 18:55 GMT
#12589
On October 08 2014 03:09 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 03:06 Souma wrote:
Is it that hard to defend against DDOS? (serious question)


is there a reason why we have IT jobs in this world?


hint: yes, for the same reasons why people can't deal with DDOS

Don't be a faggot.

I'm wondering if it really is that hard to defend against DDOS for these gaming organizations, or if people are just slacking on their prevention. If it is hard to defend against, then why, and what needs to be done to fix the issue?
Writer
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
October 07 2014 19:10 GMT
#12590
The number one cause of players getting DDOSed is skype. If I can figure out what your skype username is, I can use that to get your IP address. You can relatively easily protect yourself from that kind of attack by using a proxy to connect to skype. That will probably stop 90% of DDOSing by retarded scriptkiddies who don't want to lose skins.

If they manage to get their hands on your IP some other way, it will be quite hard to protect yourself. DDOS works by sending more traffic down your pipe than it can handle, so it will be completely stuck with trash packets. Since most people have pretty slow connections it's not that hard to flood them. Consumer routers etc. will never be able to stop DDOS attacks. If you have a cheapo crappy ISP a scriptkiddy with a big budget could probably take that down entirely as well.

I assume that eventually DDOS will go away. Already in the 90s people wrote about good ways to combat it, but they were never implemented because there was no need. Currently DDOS attacks are effective because amplification is still a thing, this is enabled by DNS servers configured as open resolvers. There are some big projects going on to get all open resolvers fixed, for more info check out https://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/. Once amplification becomes harder, and bandwidth becomes bigger, DDOS will be less effective.
Go big, or go home!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 19:13:44
October 07 2014 19:12 GMT
#12591
On October 08 2014 03:55 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 03:09 amazingxkcd wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:06 Souma wrote:
Is it that hard to defend against DDOS? (serious question)


is there a reason why we have IT jobs in this world?


hint: yes, for the same reasons why people can't deal with DDOS

Don't be a faggot.

I'm wondering if it really is that hard to defend against DDOS for these gaming organizations, or if people are just slacking on their prevention. If it is hard to defend against, then why, and what needs to be done to fix the issue?

For small tourneys it's almost impossible to afford a DDOS prevention service like cloudflare, so they have to hide the IP of the server they're playing on, they have to hide the IP of the individual players and the casters.

Essentially and this may be overly simplistic but what the anti DDOS services do is they act like an interface between the computer that is being protected and the rest of the internet and it tries to figure out which packets to let through and which ones to stop (the dirty DDOS packets). There are many problems with this though, because the DDOS prevention service can't do this on the fly perfectly. It takes time to sort the packets, so it's effective for websites, because they'll load slower but they'll load. Unfortunately, it's not very effective for services like gaming servers and clients which need to sort data fast.

Of course the best way is to keep your IP from being available publicly but yeah... barring that, it's hard to deal with.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 07 2014 19:13 GMT
#12592
I see. So currently, once they get your IP there's nothing you can do to block the attack?
Writer
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 19:18:14
October 07 2014 19:16 GMT
#12593
That's right Souma, Unless you have a bandwidth of like 10gbps, in which case I would guess the average scriptkid won't have access to a big enough botnet. But no ISP offers things like that to consumers. And if it's a really serious attack even that won't help, the attacks reach up to 300gbps I think.

If your ISP assigns you a static IP you can call them and ask them to change it, that would help. But I think ISP's are usually reluctant and slow to do it. If you have a dynamic IP you just have to wait for a new one to be assigned.

Note that I'm just a student who read up on this stuff a bit, I'm by no means a security professional. So if my information isn't accurate/correct don't be too surprised
Go big, or go home!
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 19:18:20
October 07 2014 19:18 GMT
#12594
Mmm'kay thanks. Don't some routers automatically give you a new IP once you restart it?
Writer
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
October 07 2014 19:21 GMT
#12595
They might give different internal addresses to your local devices, but your external IP is the one assigned to you by your ISP. If they dynamically assign you a new one every time you connect to them then resetting your router might help, but if they use static IPs it won't help.
Go big, or go home!
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 19:22:59
October 07 2014 19:22 GMT
#12596
On October 08 2014 04:18 Souma wrote:
Mmm'kay thanks. Don't some routers automatically give you a new IP once you restart it?

keyword on some and it really doesn't depend on router
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#12597
Yeah I meant ISP, but once you restart your router it gives you a new IP. I remember it was like that for me years back, dunno if it's still the same way with my current ISP. If gamers could get access to such a thing wouldn't it help a lot? I mean you'll still get DDOSed initially but I assume it won't last since you can just restart your router and voila.
Writer
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
October 07 2014 19:30 GMT
#12598
I guess you could look it up on your ISP's website, or perhaps mail them if you are curious about it. I know that my previous ISP used dynamic IP addresses, but didn't refresh them upon connection. Instead they reset them once every 2 weeks I think. Afaik something like that is most common. ISPs will just assign users an IP from a pool of addresses, and once every x days/weeks/months they will randomly reassign them independently of you being connected or not.
Go big, or go home!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 19:31:42
October 07 2014 19:31 GMT
#12599
On October 08 2014 04:26 Souma wrote:
Yeah I meant ISP, but once you restart your router it gives you a new IP. I remember it was like that for me years back, dunno if it's still the same way with my current ISP. If gamers could get access to such a thing wouldn't it help a lot? I mean you'll still get DDOSed initially but I assume it won't last since you can just restart your router and voila.

Some ISPs sell a dynamic IP addresses but I think that if you call to ask for one most of the reps won't even know what you're talking about.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
October 07 2014 19:32 GMT
#12600
You should keep in mind though, that a lot of people really don't have a choice. Where I live right now I have internet from my university, but other than that there are only 2 ISP's available here and they both suck. So if I were a pro CS player I'd basically just be fucked
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