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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 04 2017 20:13 GMT
#22261
On December 05 2017 04:09 Ragnarork wrote:
That you? Looking crisp there. May I ask, what's your edpi? I reduced mine over time (been using my current one for some time already) and can't figure how you can be so agile while in the air with a low edpi. Seems completely alien to me.

yah, I have 1600 dpi, 1.5 sense in cs, and 6/11 windows. so I assume it's 2400? I play with the same in MM, I've always been a wrist player though.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 04 2017 20:21 GMT
#22262
On December 05 2017 05:13 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 04:09 Ragnarork wrote:
That you? Looking crisp there. May I ask, what's your edpi? I reduced mine over time (been using my current one for some time already) and can't figure how you can be so agile while in the air with a low edpi. Seems completely alien to me.

yah, I have 1600 dpi, 1.5 sense in cs, and 6/11 windows. so I assume it's 2400? I play with the same in MM, I've always been a wrist player though.


damn thats some serious wrist control. I'm an arm player that seems insane to me :p.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 04 2017 21:00 GMT
#22263
On December 05 2017 05:21 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 05:13 Epoxide wrote:
On December 05 2017 04:09 Ragnarork wrote:
That you? Looking crisp there. May I ask, what's your edpi? I reduced mine over time (been using my current one for some time already) and can't figure how you can be so agile while in the air with a low edpi. Seems completely alien to me.

yah, I have 1600 dpi, 1.5 sense in cs, and 6/11 windows. so I assume it's 2400? I play with the same in MM, I've always been a wrist player though.


damn thats some serious wrist control. I'm an arm player that seems insane to me :p.

it goes both ways, I just can't play with my arm haha
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-05 09:55:59
December 05 2017 09:55 GMT
#22264
I'll have to check but I think I'm currently using 500 edpi (what the fuck by the way...? thought I was way higher than that...), with a Zowie on blue sensitivity and 0.25 sens.

Makes a lot more sense then as to why it feels impossible to do those quick turns haha.

Still, given how crisper my aim feels, I think I'm not going to cater to bhop needs anytime soon, considering how shitty I am.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-05 14:44:49
December 05 2017 14:44 GMT
#22265
On December 05 2017 18:55 Ragnarork wrote:
I'll have to check but I think I'm currently using 500 edpi (what the fuck by the way...? thought I was way higher than that...), with a Zowie on blue sensitivity and 0.25 sens.

Makes a lot more sense then as to why it feels impossible to do those quick turns haha.

Still, given how crisper my aim feels, I think I'm not going to cater to bhop needs anytime soon, considering how shitty I am.

damn, only two pros with lower than you

how much do you need to swipe to do a 360?
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-05 17:40:43
December 05 2017 17:36 GMT
#22266
On December 05 2017 23:44 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 18:55 Ragnarork wrote:
I'll have to check but I think I'm currently using 500 edpi (what the fuck by the way...? thought I was way higher than that...), with a Zowie on blue sensitivity and 0.25 sens.

Makes a lot more sense then as to why it feels impossible to do those quick turns haha.

Still, given how crisper my aim feels, I think I'm not going to cater to bhop needs anytime soon, considering how shitty I am.

damn, only two pros with lower than you

how much do you need to swipe to do a 360?


I used to play that low back in 1.6. Actually lower was like 450. That is 2.5 arm swipes for a 360. But why would you want to be able to 360 in one swipe :p.

Its not really super viable unless you are a playing lurk second entry type roles. If something shows up on your screen its almost impossible to overaim so it feels really good (or crisp as he said) but your ability to get out of jail is severely limited.

I compromise now with a 550 which is the bare minimum to get a full 1 use my arm and a pad to 180. But its a large swipe.

Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-05 21:07:34
December 05 2017 21:04 GMT
#22267
I have the TL Goliathus, and I need three mousepad length and a fifth to do a full 360 (it's kinda small). So that's... more than one meter. O_O

I actually decided one day to lower my sensitivy because I felt it was too shaky, i.e. that small movements of my hand would make it very imprecise. I kept doing that, gradually, from 1300 or 1400 ish, until now. But never really paid attention to how low it got... I think I was at 0.85 sens at the beginning...

I stopped going down at 0.22 and actually re-increased it for the first time, and let it stay at 0.25.

Each time my aim felt more precise, although I needed a small adjustment period, but at some point it reaaaally felt too slow for movement and I increased it again.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 05 2017 21:51 GMT
#22268
On December 06 2017 06:04 Ragnarork wrote:
I actually decided one day to lower my sensitivy because I felt it was too shaky, i.e. that small movements of my hand would make it very imprecise.

lmao i guess my wrist is just insane then
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porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 05:39:58
December 07 2017 05:39 GMT
#22269
I think I play 1.5sensx800dpi. I used to play with a custom accel curve with povhat driver but meh. Accel takes too much practice to keep at a decent level. My sens is higher than people normally think because of how I use my mouse. I rarely lift my wrist unless I need to flick or clear angles so I get a lot of control from that. Could afford to go up or down. I honestly don't know how you guys use such low sens tho. 800edpi was my the cap where I couldn't go down and be functional in too many situations.
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7136 Posts
December 07 2017 12:39 GMT
#22270
I used to play on 400 dpi 1.95/2.5/3.3 sens but recently i gave up on that and just went 5 sens. Feels surprisingly good and now sc2 sensitivity doesnt destroy my muscle memory every time cause the sensitivity i play sc2 with is almost the same as with cs.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 29 2017 17:19 GMT
#22271
On December 05 2017 00:46 Epoxide wrote:
Another decent run finally, #18 global
+ Show Spoiler +

Starting to get more consistent, got #6 global time on that map now

+ Show Spoiler +
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 29 2017 18:18 GMT
#22272
Damn that's mesmerizing. Good stuff! That left right shake between jumps feels weird, is it just a habit or is it useful to adjust distances slightly?
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 29 2017 21:15 GMT
#22273
On December 30 2017 03:18 Ragnarork wrote:
Damn that's mesmerizing. Good stuff! That left right shake between jumps feels weird, is it just a habit or is it useful to adjust distances slightly?

It's air strafing, you gain speed in the source engine by dragging your mouse and holding the same direction key. Ie. drag mouse to right and then hold the D key.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 29 2017 21:26 GMT
#22274
On December 30 2017 06:15 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2017 03:18 Ragnarork wrote:
Damn that's mesmerizing. Good stuff! That left right shake between jumps feels weird, is it just a habit or is it useful to adjust distances slightly?

It's air strafing, you gain speed in the source engine by dragging your mouse and holding the same direction key. Ie. drag mouse to right and then hold the D key.


Pretty sure that applied to the Half life engine also for 1.6
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 29 2017 21:27 GMT
#22275
On December 30 2017 06:26 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2017 06:15 Epoxide wrote:
On December 30 2017 03:18 Ragnarork wrote:
Damn that's mesmerizing. Good stuff! That left right shake between jumps feels weird, is it just a habit or is it useful to adjust distances slightly?

It's air strafing, you gain speed in the source engine by dragging your mouse and holding the same direction key. Ie. drag mouse to right and then hold the D key.


Pretty sure that applied to the Half life engine also for 1.6

Yes
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 30 2017 01:20 GMT
#22276
Yes I knew that but switching directions that fast isn't exactly this, is it? Or you mean you're switching ADAD as well synchronously with the left-right aim juggling?
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 30 2017 01:53 GMT
#22277
On December 30 2017 10:20 Ragnarork wrote:
Yes I knew that but switching directions that fast isn't exactly this, is it? Or you mean you're switching ADAD as well synchronously with the left-right aim juggling?

Well, because I still need to go forward the best way is to zig zag to keep gaining speed while also going in the correct direction. I am indeed synching the ADAD with my mouse movement back and forth. This video explains it pretty well:
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 30 2017 02:03 GMT
#22278
On December 30 2017 10:20 Ragnarork wrote:
Yes I knew that but switching directions that fast isn't exactly this, is it? Or you mean you're switching ADAD as well synchronously with the left-right aim juggling?

A synch example:

#. Sync        Gained      Lost        MaxSpeed    AirTime
1. 100% 16.343 0.000 291.956 11%
2. 100% 15.991 0.000 307.948 14%
3. 83% 13.386 1.729 319.605 11%
4. 93% 15.506 0.293 334.817 14%
5. 100% 12.740 0.000 347.558 13%
6. 79% 12.385 0.000 359.943 13%
7. 54% 7.834 0.000 367.778 12%
8. 29% 2.396 0.000 370.174 5%


At the start of the jump I start at 275 units/s, when I land I am at 370 units/s. You run at 250 units/s with the knife (and the USP on KZ settings).
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 30 2017 20:38 GMT
#22279
Got it!

Upgraded my mousepad recently (way bigger) so that might be time to check kz a bit.
LiquipediaWanderer
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 30 2017 20:55 GMT
#22280
On December 31 2017 05:38 Ragnarork wrote:
Got it!

Upgraded my mousepad recently (way bigger) so that might be time to check kz a bit.

If you do, I recommend checking all the guides on JWL's channel. They are all really good.
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