Fire Emblem - Page 9

On August 11 2011 03:05 arb wrote:

I thought the general understanding was Hector was the best FE Character?

Or was that mostly just the GBA comparisons?

On August 11 2011 03:40 Juddas wrote:


well Hector is a little debatable, but I don't think it is Mist. I think she may be the best hearler, but i might not even got that far.

On August 11 2011 03:46 Sentenal wrote:

lol what criteria are you guys even using to compare these characters?

On August 11 2011 04:42 Juddas wrote:
well my particular criteria would be something like

overall usefulness (mobility, range, weapon types, weapon skills)
not going to die if attacked (defense, speed, HP)
ability to attack successfully (skill and speed and strength)
Growth rates
time of recruitment( how much exp is needed to make good unit)
abilities


^ this may be flawed because an armored unit will not be likely to get it, healer, a mage is less likely

another reason this could be flawed is that is favors wyrven knight type characters, so maybe I'm just a softy for the flying dragon things.

This is all imo of course

On August 11 2011 04:21 arb wrote:

The only site i saw with a comparison escapes me, but it was mostly taken an average of like 25 or something play through s and comparing the final stats between each character of every class, and using that to determine who was the best of that particular class.

On August 11 2011 04:55 zalz wrote:


I can't stand wyverns or my little pony pegasus, even when i bother to level them they feel weak. Nice to snipe certain units but they get raped hard by archers wich would be what i would want to use them for most of the time.

Favorite classes off the top of my head:

Assasins > Swordmasters > Generals > Hero's > Shamans


Most of the others tend to be mediocre and i think i hate all mounted units (Paladins, Pegasus knights, Wyverns, Nomads).

This isn't based on their actuall usefullness but mostly on the vague feeling of what classes i think are cooler.

On August 11 2011 04:59 Sentenal wrote:

Stat averages are simply math. Just take growth rates, how many levels they can gain, base stats, promotion bonus, etc and you can find out what their average stats will be at any level.

I personally don't consider 20/20 stats to justify who the "best" character is, but like I said it just depends on criteria. A character who has great 20/20 stats could come just a few levels before the end of the game, and therefore be absoluetely worthless in a Hard Mode Ranked run. While prepromotes who come early are much more useful in helping you complete early, difficult missions.

20/20 stats also don't factor in class utility either. Like for example, I don't care what stats your Archer in non-FE10 has, they are bad. But a Paladin or Sage with those same stats would be godly.

But if we are just talking about 20/20 stats, Hector isn't even the best FE character ever. It would have to be some crazy second generation character from FE4 (like Sety, Leaf, or Lakche). FE4 is full of absolutely broken, monstrous units, not to mention the people who get Holy Weapons get a total of +30 Stats (allowing them to pass their stat caps), in addition to really high attack power. If we get into FE10 Tier 3 units, those guys have stats that go over 30, which is higher than the max of any previous game.

On August 11 2011 04:55 zalz wrote:


I can't stand wyverns or my little pony pegasus, even when i bother to level them they feel weak. Nice to snipe certain units but they get raped hard by archers wich would be what i would want to use them for most of the time.

Favorite classes off the top of my head:

Assasins > Swordmasters > Generals > Hero's > Shamans


Most of the others tend to be mediocre and i think i hate all mounted units (Paladins, Pegasus knights, Wyverns, Nomads).

This isn't based on their actuall usefullness but mostly on the vague feeling of what classes i think are cooler.

On August 11 2011 05:16 Sentenal wrote:
lol all this talk about assassins...

Look guys, I think assassins are just as cool as the next guy. I even made a bunch of FE Fight animations back in the day involving Assassins being awesome like these:
+ Show Spoiler +

But Assassins are bad. Its a really bad class. Locked into swords, really bad stat caps, etc etc.

The best class in most games is the Paladin. Mounted, good caps, total weapon triangle control, etc. Sages come in next. Then things like Heros/Wyverns/Generals. Swordmaster is a class that in a vacuum isn't very good, it just happens to have alot of good characters in it. Anyway, after these, almost every class other than assassin/archer/sniper are around the same level.

Master Knight in FE4 is however the best Tier 2 class in any game by alot though lol.

On August 11 2011 05:20 HolyArrow wrote:


Haha, I remember having Lachesis and thinking she was terrible. Then, she got promoted, and my mouth flew wide open. Ridiculous, just ridiculous.

On August 11 2011 05:23 Juddas wrote:
I like assassins because they are kick ass, amazing skill and speed, and lethality. There is nothing cooler than lethality. By far the coolest animation too if you ask me

sweet gifs. by the way

On August 11 2011 05:29 Sentenal wrote:

They are cool, I agree. But SKL is a stat that you only need a certain amount of, because with the way the RNG works, most characters can achieve 100% actual hit with just a modest amount of SKL, considering enemy units don't dodge well (even on Hard Mode). SPD is the best stat in the game, and they do have alot of it, which is good. But thats virtually the only thing they have. Lethality's activation rate is so low and overkill its almost a non factor.

On August 11 2011 06:42 Juddas wrote:
Skill is nice not only because it increases hit, but also because it increases critical, and lethality activation rates.


On a completely unrelated note, Wil or Rath in FE7?

for a while it was Wil but I'm sort of feeling Rath