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LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
August 10 2011 00:45 GMT
#121
On August 10 2011 07:54 Juddas wrote:
you just started didn't you^

/facepalm


Marcus is what we call a Jaigen?

This means that he is insanely overleveled in the early game but his stats really suck. I like to call these characters EXP whores.

I implore you to hide him somewhere off in the side of them map away from all enemies. Depending on how early you are and what difficulty you are on, you may want to consider restarting

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Marcus

Doesn't stop Marcus from being able to solo all of FE7.

Jeigans are pretty useful (apart from Jeigan himself) and most have some great usage as meatshields and such. Also important on harder difficulties for rescuing etc.

FE6 Marcus is really awful after a few chapters, but he's pretty much a necessity on hard mode.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 10 2011 00:53 GMT
#122
Well yes he is necessary for completion, but it is best to use him as little as possible, as with all Jaigens. That doesn't stop the fact that he eats so much EXP whenever they solo a chapter.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
August 10 2011 01:10 GMT
#123
I love these games, but I often get very frustrated with them because my motto is that no man is left behind... if someone dies, restart the level. It's always that 1% crit chance at the very end of the level...
I am the Town Medic.
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
August 10 2011 01:11 GMT
#124
You will need to use Marcus for a bit in FE6 Hard mode though, at least for the early part. He's the only one that can use that silver lance to do just enough damage to not kill enemies outright, allowing other units to get the kills and subsequently the EXP.

Alternatively, you can just strip him of weapons and use him as a bait/meatshield, like other Jeigans.

Oifayes, however a different case, they sap up experience early, but have good growths to justify using them later on the game. Examples include + Show Spoiler +
Oifaye in the 2nd half of FE4,
Seth from FE8 and Titania FE9, slightly less in 10.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 10 2011 01:13 GMT
#125
I am one of the biggest fan of FE since I played FE3(remake of FE1) and FE4 on SNES more than 10 years ago.
But I am quite dissapointed where the FE series is heading rightnow, since the original have left quite a long time ago. FE3 and FE4 will forever be my favourite in the series!!!
Terran
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
August 10 2011 01:14 GMT
#126
FE10's system is hilarious though. <3

You can even make Fiona and Meg really good with the bonus exp system.

Seth is ridiculously good !

And yeah, 1% crits are so frustrating. Moreso when its your own character critting enemy after enemy when they cant afford to take more hits.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
August 10 2011 01:24 GMT
#127
FE4 will forever be the most unique and enjoyable FE. I don't think Nintendo can top that anytime soon. The game is divided into two parts with a great story and mechanic.
I mean you can play the first part and decide who marry who and their siblings will turn out difference in the 2nd part of the game. Thats just fantastic and got enormous replay value. If some of you guys think that FE7 is the best but never played FE4, just play it, there is a very good translation ROM out there. Too bad it never got officially release in the English world.
Terran
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 10 2011 01:25 GMT
#128
I didn't know about the BEXP system in 10 and I almost ruined my best people with BEXP. I only use that system when I max out the more important stats on certain characters

Mainly if Aran doesn't get any speed, he will max out quickly on defense, strength and skill and then BEXP will up his speed hopefully.
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
August 10 2011 01:31 GMT
#129
On August 10 2011 10:14 LunaSaint wrote:
FE10's system is hilarious though. <3

You can even make Fiona and Meg really good with the bonus exp system.

Seth is ridiculously good !

And yeah, 1% crits are so frustrating. Moreso when its your own character critting enemy after enemy when they cant afford to take more hits.


Yeah, that BEXP that guarantees 3 stats regardless can break characters pretty easily with a couple of favorable level-up gains, though the scarcity of BEXP(and regular EXP for that matter) on higher difficulties like Hard Mode make it tough to abuse the system there.

Especially when we are talking about characters like Meg and Fiona which you get at very bad times. Meg gets mauled, and quite likely 1-rounded by + Show Spoiler +
the laguz the chapter she joins
and Fiona gets around + Show Spoiler +
2 chapters in Part 1
, so both of them need to be fed EXP/kills just to catch up with the rest of the party.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
August 10 2011 01:36 GMT
#130
Fuuuuu I hate Pegasus Knights, they're my most hated class even though some people love them, but I despise their fragileness. I've been trying to level up Vanessa in FE8 in Chapter 5's arena and having to start the game over and over again because of either some harmless looking unit like a mage or soldier killing her.

"Haha, she can probably handle this ezpz no problem" *Vanessa misses target with 87% hit chance* "......fuck."
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
August 10 2011 01:36 GMT
#131
I have beaten FE7 over 10 times now, at least. I just like seeing the stats on my 20/20 characters.

I hated Sacred Stones, but Path of Radiance was surprisingly good. The sequel... not so much.
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#132
On my last playthrough of 10 (as in 3? days ago) I forced myself to not use any BEXP. It's actually not that hard. Another goal was to not let anyone died. Almost. 4 deaths and they were all in Part IV
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
August 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#133
WOOOO I was in love with FE 9 and 10 for the longest time lol. But I really wished that there was a PvP mode, where my characters could battle my friends' characters.

You don't train Fiona and Meg, they jack too much EXP from Edward. And Edward owns way too hard to be denied any EXP.

Shinon IMBA lol.
I'm cold as iceeeee
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 02:08:40
August 10 2011 01:48 GMT
#134
On August 10 2011 10:36 Spica wrote:
Fuuuuu I hate Pegasus Knights, they're my most hated class even though some people love them, but I despise their fragileness. I've been trying to level up Vanessa in FE8 in Chapter 5's arena and having to start the game over and over again because of either some harmless looking unit like a mage or soldier killing her.

"Haha, she can probably handle this ezpz no problem" *Vanessa misses target with 87% hit chance* "......fuck."


Hmm, you're not nearly as paranoid as I am, then. When I'm leveling in an arena, as soon as there's even a remote chance that I'll die, I yield. It's probably because I've been screwed over too many times by random crits and such.

Sacred Stones was fun though, with its abusable RNG. It's pretty cool when everyone has a move of 15.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#135
Tips for Moochlol: Marcus sucks. But I'm sure you know that now Zealot is even worse. Don't use him. In fact, most of the prepromoted characters suck. Don't bother with them. Chad maxes out at 20 having no promotion, but his growths are quite good and he's the best thief, so you might as well max him.

Notably good characters (they objectively have pretty good/great growths and I've also been able to consistently do well in the game with them):
Allen and Lance (neither were particularly amazing for me, but both were very solid)
Lugh
Clarine
Rutger
Thany (if you notice you're started to get Str screwed - if she starts doing no damage to anyone, I advise you to drop her)
Wendy
Oujay
Fir (also if you don't get Str screwed - same note as Thany - they're both awesome if they don't get Str screwed)
Geese
Gonzales (he's really good in 10A, sucks in 10B - google how to get either)
Tate
Ray
Sophia (really hard to train, but good if you're patient)
Miredy
Zeiss
Fa
Karel

Enjoy!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 10 2011 01:51 GMT
#136
On August 10 2011 10:48 aphorism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:36 Spica wrote:
Fuuuuu I hate Pegasus Knights, they're my most hated class even though some people love them, but I despise their fragileness. I've been trying to level up Vanessa in FE8 in Chapter 5's arena and having to start the game over and over again because of either some harmless looking unit like a mage or soldier killing her.

"Haha, she can probably handle this ezpz no problem" *Vanessa misses target with 87% hit chance* "......fuck."


Hmm, you're not nearly as paranoid as I am, then. When I'm leveling in an arena, as soon as there's even a remote chance that I'll die, I yield. It's probably because I've been screwed over too many times by random crits and such.

Sacred Stones was fun though, with its abusable RNG. It's pretty coo; when everyone has a move of 15.


Why even bother with the Arena? Just go grind at the tower, then you don't have too much progress lost if someone dies
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
August 10 2011 01:56 GMT
#137
On August 10 2011 10:48 aphorism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:36 Spica wrote:
Fuuuuu I hate Pegasus Knights, they're my most hated class even though some people love them, but I despise their fragileness. I've been trying to level up Vanessa in FE8 in Chapter 5's arena and having to start the game over and over again because of either some harmless looking unit like a mage or soldier killing her.

"Haha, she can probably handle this ezpz no problem" *Vanessa misses target with 87% hit chance* "......fuck."


Hmm, you're not nearly as paranoid as I am, then. When I'm leveling in an arena, as soon as there's even a remote chance that I'll die, I yield. It's probably because I've been screwed over too many times by random crits and such.

Sacred Stones was fun though, with its abusable RNG. It's pretty coo; when everyone has a move of 15.

Yeah, I'm going to have to be even more paranoid with her the next time I boot up the game; I've learned my lesson the hard way lmfao. For some reason I leveled up Thany in FE6 just fine in the arena without having to worry so much, but Vanessa seems to get killed left and right compared to her... I am going to replace Vanessa with Tana ASAP then when I get to Chapter 9 lol.

On August 10 2011 10:51 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 10:48 aphorism wrote:
On August 10 2011 10:36 Spica wrote:
Fuuuuu I hate Pegasus Knights, they're my most hated class even though some people love them, but I despise their fragileness. I've been trying to level up Vanessa in FE8 in Chapter 5's arena and having to start the game over and over again because of either some harmless looking unit like a mage or soldier killing her.

"Haha, she can probably handle this ezpz no problem" *Vanessa misses target with 87% hit chance* "......fuck."


Hmm, you're not nearly as paranoid as I am, then. When I'm leveling in an arena, as soon as there's even a remote chance that I'll die, I yield. It's probably because I've been screwed over too many times by random crits and such.

Sacred Stones was fun though, with its abusable RNG. It's pretty coo; when everyone has a move of 15.


Why even bother with the Arena? Just go grind at the tower, then you don't have too much progress lost if someone dies

Because I am an impatient person. D:
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
August 10 2011 01:59 GMT
#138



That is my favorite song in the series I think lol
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 10 2011 02:06 GMT
#139
Ah...I am a major fan of the series. Fire Emblem 4 and Tharcia have been my favorite in terms of gameplay and story due to the enormous battles and it is not unusual to see more than 100 units deployed on the field at once and the mating system. Oh my God...that was so epic. That is why I am not as big of the more recent titles.
I also even considered making a Medieval Total War 2 mod for Fire Emblem 4. I still have everything figured out for each faction...but I was just too lazy to start on it.
JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
August 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#140
I loved the FE 10 and 11 series. The characters were great and the Laguz kingdoms were kick ass. My personal favorite characters were Ranulf, Ike, Haar, (The green haired swordsmaster who's name escapes me from FE 10) and of course Tibarn. The storyline was pretty good I thought although FE 11 was a little ehh imo. However, these games are my favorite mostly because they were my first turned based strategy games. Got me into the series and I couldn't be happier about it.
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