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yanot
Profile Joined March 2010
France130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 12:18:57
October 02 2012 12:18 GMT
#661
On October 02 2012 21:06 Medrea wrote:
I just found out what The Bee shield is.

Its overpowered as well. Using it is cheating.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I don't know how I feel because dumb shit like this put me in a psychological and paradoxical loop. It's not cheating, its a legit item! But it trivializes the game, so why even play the game? I could remove the shield, but why would I do that when I could NOT remove the shield?



It will be nerfed for sure and your problem will be gone ^^

btw it's only overpowered when you use it with some modifiers, like x6 - x10 bullets, or +400% crit damage.

That's why some weapons are so good with it : maggie (gun with x6-10 bullets) conference call (shotgun, same as maggie), or a lvl 50 lady fist (quest reward : Uncle quest in Arid Badlands) with +400% crit damage.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 16:30:00
October 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#662
Does it really have more recharge rate than capacity? WTF?
And with Axton's "Willing" the recharge delay is like 1.5 sec. Sick.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
yanot
Profile Joined March 2010
France130 Posts
October 02 2012 16:35 GMT
#663
yes The Bee has a trade-off: survivability for high damage when you are not hit. You can find some shields with more than 50k capacity easily at lvl 50.

It is also very hard to find a good The Bee, if you play legit and don't dupe, that's it. Because you can roll a 30k damage one while your neighboor can roll a 50+k damage one. That's being said a low-rolled the bee is still very good, this is not diablo 3 with ilvl 63 crappies ^^
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 02 2012 17:57 GMT
#664
Does anybody have a location on where these legendaries drop?
yanot
Profile Joined March 2010
France130 Posts
October 02 2012 18:42 GMT
#665
^

http://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands/comments/10ksjq/spoiler_repost_of_legendary_drop_locationsnow/


Keep in mind every legendary can drop everywhere if you are lucky (even in slot machines and shops)

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 02 2012 20:53 GMT
#666
The Bee shield trades way too well. It multiplies your damage by ten times or more depending on pellet count and attack speed!
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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
October 02 2012 21:24 GMT
#667
Yeah, at most among legendaries a few items have a more noteworthy chance to drop of certain bosses. It isn't the only source and I'd imagine that a few items are being attributed to bosses that they are not tied to at all, specifically a lot of the ones being tied to the warrior since he is such a large source of loot for a lot of people in general it is to be expected that it might seem like he is the main source of something.

There are more confirmable blue level items with red text that are tied to a specific miniboss.

From the quoted list on reddit I've seen Bouncing Bonnie, WTF, Leech, Maggie, and Conference Call from random sources other than the ones listed. Chests to be specific other than WTF from a badass and Bouncing Bonnie from Slappy.

I've had Gub, Hornet, Hammer Buster, and Sledge's Shotgun from the sources that people throw around as "the" source though.

Has anyone seen a compiled list of etech weapon behaviors emerging anywhere? I've found a new one that confuses me because it seems to hit a lot of things harder than it should. Specifically it is a fire smg "plasma caster" that is hitting for about 150% of what it "should" on all target health bar types, based on both comparison to a normal fire smg and best guessing on the underlying math. I have another "plasma caster" smg that is corrode but does not exhibit this behavior...it does this weird thing with having a short max range but apparently 'smart' ricocheting projectiles.

Dr. Zed called it, etech is weird.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 02 2012 21:27 GMT
#668
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 02 2012 21:42 GMT
#669
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

o.O i prefer to shoot the crystal legs for ridiculous dmg... they have always gone down super quick for me.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 21:54:48
October 02 2012 21:48 GMT
#670
On October 03 2012 06:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

o.O i prefer to shoot the crystal legs for ridiculous dmg... they have always gone down super quick for me.

Well, if you melee them it takes 3 hits... they're down in no time. (in both playthroughs and without any melee dmg bonus / skill)

But if weapons do fine for you, no problem. My SMG, Assault rifle, Pistol and Rocket launcher did not much dmg (or not efficiently ammo wise). Not sure if i tried Sniper rifle, might work better. Although there are different types of all of them anyway, so i can't just say it like thatt :D
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 22:17:43
October 02 2012 22:08 GMT
#671
On October 03 2012 06:48 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 06:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

o.O i prefer to shoot the crystal legs for ridiculous dmg... they have always gone down super quick for me.

Well, if you melee them it takes 3 hits... they're down in no time. (in both playthroughs and without any melee dmg bonus / skill)

But if weapons do fine for you, no problem. My SMG, Assault rifle, Pistol and Rocket launcher did not much dmg (or not efficiently ammo wise). Not sure if i tried Sniper rifle, might work better. Although there are different types of all of them anyway, so i can't just say it like thatt :D

Are you sure you were shooting them? Because it has only ever taken a couple shots per leg no matter the gun that I used from what I can remember. Though that may be because I am an assassin with pretty good crit dmg modifiers? Dunno...

EDIT: Wooow Bee shield really is OP. Took down Terramorphous in 1:15 with just a pistol.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-02 22:22:50
October 02 2012 22:21 GMT
#672
Is that one a quest item? I don't remember it from the first playthrough. Not finished 2nd yet.

And yes, i was shooting their legs. I think you probably have high crit multiplier and used a sniper rifle, that probably works very well.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 02 2012 22:27 GMT
#673
That list is helpful, was hoping something like that would be made soon. Even if some of them might be off, it's still nice to see which bosses I want to farm. Didn't know there were two bosses with the title the invincible, I'll have to try that out. E-tech weapons seem incredibly rare, I've only found one so far(splatgun) and I just beat the bunker on true vault hunter.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 02 2012 22:35 GMT
#674
On October 03 2012 07:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Is that one a quest item? I don't remember it from the first playthrough. Not finished 2nd yet.

And yes, i was shooting their legs. I think you probably have high crit multiplier and used a sniper rifle, that probably works very well.

It is an item you can get from a quest guy, you can farm him over and over after you finish the quest. See the reddit post if you dont mind spoilers.

My current setup has me hitting for 200k with my pistol and critting for 700k o.o
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
October 03 2012 02:08 GMT
#675
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

My current method is to spam Law on one leg, reload, spam Law on the other leg, then cloak (I'm playing as zero) and run up to melee the last leg.
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Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
October 03 2012 02:28 GMT
#676
On October 03 2012 11:08 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

My current method is to spam Law on one leg, reload, spam Law on the other leg, then cloak (I'm playing as zero) and run up to melee the last leg.


Shotgun has worked best for me too. By far. (Zero, sniper based)
Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
October 03 2012 02:35 GMT
#677
Found an e-tech weapon and it disappeared from inventory
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 03 2012 02:37 GMT
#678
On October 03 2012 11:08 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

My current method is to spam Law on one leg, reload, spam Law on the other leg, then cloak (I'm playing as zero) and run up to melee the last leg.


Once you get the timing down meleeing them is extremely easy. They get stunned a bit whenever you break a leg, giving you more than enough time to circle and hit another leg, it can be surprising just how far melee can reach for their legs. I just charge em and smack em. If they're already up they may hit me with some of their weak projectile shards, but usually only one, then they're stunlocked until death. Even blue is a pushover if you melee.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
October 03 2012 08:30 GMT
#679
On October 03 2012 11:37 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 11:08 Spazer wrote:
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

My current method is to spam Law on one leg, reload, spam Law on the other leg, then cloak (I'm playing as zero) and run up to melee the last leg.


Once you get the timing down meleeing them is extremely easy. They get stunned a bit whenever you break a leg, giving you more than enough time to circle and hit another leg, it can be surprising just how far melee can reach for their legs. I just charge em and smack em. If they're already up they may hit me with some of their weak projectile shards, but usually only one, then they're stunlocked until death. Even blue is a pushover if you melee.

Phaselock then melee each leg before it finishes, you can even pahselock from 10-20 metres away and still take it down before phaselock is over. I killed blue this way and just lol'ed
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17799 Posts
October 03 2012 09:07 GMT
#680
On October 03 2012 06:48 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 06:42 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On October 03 2012 06:27 HolydaKing wrote:
Btw, i'm sure some don't know it. But Crystalisks are actually very easy if you melee their Crystal legs. For some time i used a shotgun and that worked OK as well, but all other weapons plain suck vs them.

o.O i prefer to shoot the crystal legs for ridiculous dmg... they have always gone down super quick for me.

Well, if you melee them it takes 3 hits... they're down in no time. (in both playthroughs and without any melee dmg bonus / skill)

But if weapons do fine for you, no problem. My SMG, Assault rifle, Pistol and Rocket launcher did not much dmg (or not efficiently ammo wise). Not sure if i tried Sniper rifle, might work better. Although there are different types of all of them anyway, so i can't just say it like thatt :D


It took my brother a single crit with his sniper rifle per leg (and he's running a melee zero).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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