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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2015 01:20 GMT
#19861
I guess thats a fair opinion, in my opinion path of exile is superior by a comfortable amount to every single other game in its genre.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 02:43:15
October 06 2015 02:37 GMT
#19862
I got to lvl 98 without even trying.


Must be the biggest lie in this thread :D How can you say that running hundreds of maps is not trying at all? You just put the map in device and it runs itself?

So I am glad GGG nerfed the xp amount for the highest level maps and I hope they will continue to do so when the next expansion comes.



So since you just go no life and don't get bored with your character, I should gain less XP in maps so you feel better about yourself when you get to 100? Wow, that makes so much sense. Not even selfish at all. Not a bit.

Just increase the required XP between 95 to 100. It wouldn't affect my game ta all. But no, WE MUST REDUCE THE XP SO NO ONE GAINS ANYTHIN YEEEY. I SHOULD FEEL EVEN MORE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS BECAUSE I PLAY THE GAME 10X MOAR.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 04:41:47
October 06 2015 04:40 GMT
#19863
What level do you feel so entitled to that you feel your being unduly punished by the exp changes? I got to 70 in 22 hours played time for example, I'm almost 80 now. Post lvl 85 or so the gains from levelling for the most part are meaningless, so what do you actually feel you're missing out on?

P.S getting to 90+ should be something that takes serious effort, not like a week or two's playing.

Also, unless you're running like 78+ maps you're actually not affected at all by this change. Buffed even, as the damage mobs do has been reduced heavily below that point.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 06 2015 04:46 GMT
#19864
It's pretty easy to get to 70 as long as your build/ gear aren't completely terrible. Getting to 85-90 is a product of having good gear and build, but past that feels like it's your luck with map drops.
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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 06:51:07
October 06 2015 06:49 GMT
#19865
On October 06 2015 13:40 bo1b wrote:
What level do you feel so entitled to that you feel your being unduly punished by the exp changes? I got to 70 in 22 hours played time for example, I'm almost 80 now. Post lvl 85 or so the gains from levelling for the most part are meaningless, so what do you actually feel you're missing out on?


It has nothing to do with me feeling entitled, it's just that the idea of lowering XP gain, so some dude can get to level 100 a week or 2 week later is just completely retarded. I don't give a shit about 100 or people trying to get it, why should I be affected by it?

Getting to 70 is nothing... We all know that. Assuming it's not a fresh league and you have quite good leveling uniques you can hit Merciless in around 8 hours and farm Dried Lake pretty fast until you're 70. That takes like 1-2 days at most even if you're an average player. And I'm not talking about.

Have you ever actually played Block Incinerate, because if you did you would know that there is no way you can complete that build at LVL85. You need every block node on the tree. Sure 50% of the builds might be completed by the time you reach 80-85. But there are lots of other builds around that needs more points because they stretch a lot more around the tree. You can't just expect to have RT+MOM+PA and still have enough dps or life nodes on tree with just a LVL80 character.

On October 06 2015 13:40 bo1b wrote:
P.S getting to 90+ should be something that takes serious effort, not like a week or two's playing.

Also, unless you're running like 78+ maps you're actually not affected at all by this change. Buffed even, as the damage mobs do has been reduced heavily below that point.


Just because you don't get bored from your character so soon and can actually play it for whole 3 months and reach LVL98 does not mean that they should nerf XP gains. I created 12 chars in Warbands and Tempest together, and if I had to play 1 month everytime for a character to reach 90 I wouldn't be able to play 12 different builds.

And then people cry about build diversity. Yeah, let's make 85+ grind even more harder so everyone actually plays only Cyclone and Incinerate.

Of course I'm running 78+ maps, who's not running those maps? I don't even know why do you ask that, you're expecting me to run 600 72 maps?
There is no fate, but what we make.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2015 08:20 GMT
#19866
Ok, so what level are you trying to hit? Is it 100? Do you really need to be lvl 100 for a build to even work?

That said I'd be interested in (never going to happen) seeing the time spent to get to lvl x curve pre and post patch. I'm pretty certain that up until like lvl 90 it's probably faster post patch then it is now.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
October 06 2015 08:44 GMT
#19867
On October 06 2015 15:49 Invoker wrote:
I don't give a shit about 100


I guess you just don't read. I'm not trying to hit anything. I play until the build is virtually min-maxed or I don't need it anymore, let's say I stopped farming Uber. Or I wanna play another character.

And I didn't say you need 100. I just said it's not a simple thing like "every build works around 85". It might be 82, 94, 84, 96.. Depends on the build. That's what I'm saying...
Some builds even work at LVL70 and they just benefit from extra levels, and those extra levels don't change the functionality of the build at all. And some builds don't work at all even at 90 because you still need to get that last Keystone, 4 points away.

So again, it's not a simple thing like, "every build works at 85, people grind 90+ just for fun".
There is no fate, but what we make.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2015 09:30 GMT
#19868
I'm just trying to figure out where it is you've been affected post exp nerf. Like what level you think is required before the build works. That's all.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
October 06 2015 10:55 GMT
#19869
I'm now 100% sure that you don't read. I just said it depends on the build...
There is no fate, but what we make.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 06 2015 11:01 GMT
#19870
I'm 100% sure that you're complaining for the sake of complaining. First you complained about the exp changes affecting you while stating you didn't have the time to get to 98 (makes me think you don't have any characters above 90), then you started lumping your self in with both the crowd that does level hard and the crowd that doesn't (by implying your incinerate block build requires more then lvl 85 while also saying shit about "no life").

I just want to know why this affects you, and to what degree. Like if you come out and say you get to lvl 90 or so before making a new character then I'm like 99.999% sure the changes in exp are completely meaningless to you overall.

It's ok though, I'm salty about mirrors being in the game, it will never really affect me though.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 06 2015 11:40 GMT
#19871
On October 06 2015 20:01 bo1b wrote:
It's ok though, I'm salty about mirrors being in the game, it will never really affect me though.

Don't say never, tomorrow you might find one.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 12:55:13
October 06 2015 12:27 GMT
#19872
On October 06 2015 20:01 bo1b wrote:
I'm 100% sure that you're complaining for the sake of complaining. First you complained about the exp changes affecting you while stating you didn't have the time to get to 98 (makes me think you don't have any characters above 90), then you started lumping your self in with both the crowd that does level hard and the crowd that doesn't (by implying your incinerate block build requires more then lvl 85 while also saying shit about "no life").

I just want to know why this affects you, and to what degree. Like if you come out and say you get to lvl 90 or so before making a new character then I'm like 99.999% sure the changes in exp are completely meaningless to you overall.

It's ok though, I'm salty about mirrors being in the game, it will never really affect me though.


oh my god... im just done with you
first you don't read and then you make up bullshit
where did i say i don't have the time jesus... didn't say nolife about anyone either...
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
October 06 2015 16:59 GMT
#19873
So I just found a tempered ilvl75 harbinger (only affix it has), I know nothing about bows, is it worth anything?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 06 2015 17:06 GMT
#19874
its probably a few chaos, it's not a perfect base but u do save some crafter quite a few alts I guess.

I'd just regal it 1-mod cuz yolo
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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-07 00:03:39
October 06 2015 23:59 GMT
#19875
On October 06 2015 11:37 Invoker wrote:
Show nested quote +
I got to lvl 98 without even trying.


Must be the biggest lie in this thread :D How can you say that running hundreds of maps is not trying at all? You just put the map in device and it runs itself?

Show nested quote +
So I am glad GGG nerfed the xp amount for the highest level maps and I hope they will continue to do so when the next expansion comes.



So since you just go no life and don't get bored with your character, I should gain less XP in maps so you feel better about yourself when you get to 100? Wow, that makes so much sense. Not even selfish at all. Not a bit.

Just increase the required XP between 95 to 100. It wouldn't affect my game ta all. But no, WE MUST REDUCE THE XP SO NO ONE GAINS ANYTHIN YEEEY. I SHOULD FEEL EVEN MORE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS BECAUSE I PLAY THE GAME 10X MOAR.


I got to level 91 in around 34 hours of total play. It is not hard to reach 96 or 98. The last two levels can be tough but thats it. Watch Havocs stream if in doubt.

The screenshot shows 91,75 in 40 hours.

http://i.imgur.com/sGphPbw.jpg

leveling is really easy once you know how to.

The people who use "no life" in a sentence are almost always the people who have no idea what they are talking about

Also you seem to misunderstand something basic about this game. 100 is not a mandatory level to reach. The last 10 or levels don't add much to your characters potential (same thing goes for Diablo 2). It is only there to be a challenge. It is not max level in WoW or lvl 70 in D3.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 07 2015 00:57 GMT
#19876
The caveat is that you need to have sets of leveling gear, a decent set of endgame gear (or the means to buy) and I assume either currency for high level map fees, or your own maps for rotations
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 07 2015 02:36 GMT
#19877
I'm drowning in salt, some dude (yeh this is a conspiracy now) was mass buying out devoto's devotions last night, bought like 9 in a row a minute before I got to them (the ones placed at 1.5 ex or less) including a 100% perfect rolled one for 40 chaos, which according to the dude that sold it was traded as i whispered him.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 07 2015 03:02 GMT
#19878
Also at 77 I'm farming 135 million xp/h in dried lake. This is fucking retarded lol.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 07 2015 10:22 GMT
#19879
On October 07 2015 08:59 Frankenberry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 11:37 Invoker wrote:
I got to lvl 98 without even trying.


Must be the biggest lie in this thread :D How can you say that running hundreds of maps is not trying at all? You just put the map in device and it runs itself?

So I am glad GGG nerfed the xp amount for the highest level maps and I hope they will continue to do so when the next expansion comes.



So since you just go no life and don't get bored with your character, I should gain less XP in maps so you feel better about yourself when you get to 100? Wow, that makes so much sense. Not even selfish at all. Not a bit.

Just increase the required XP between 95 to 100. It wouldn't affect my game ta all. But no, WE MUST REDUCE THE XP SO NO ONE GAINS ANYTHIN YEEEY. I SHOULD FEEL EVEN MORE SUPERIOR TO OTHERS BECAUSE I PLAY THE GAME 10X MOAR.


I got to level 91 in around 34 hours of total play. It is not hard to reach 96 or 98. The last two levels can be tough but thats it. Watch Havocs stream if in doubt.

The screenshot shows 91,75 in 40 hours.

http://i.imgur.com/sGphPbw.jpg

leveling is really easy once you know how to.

The people who use "no life" in a sentence are almost always the people who have no idea what they are talking about

Also you seem to misunderstand something basic about this game. 100 is not a mandatory level to reach. The last 10 or levels don't add much to your characters potential (same thing goes for Diablo 2). It is only there to be a challenge. It is not max level in WoW or lvl 70 in D3.


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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-08 11:27:51
October 08 2015 11:26 GMT
#19880
On October 07 2015 08:59 Frankenberry wrote:
I got to level 91 in around 34 hours of total play. It is not hard to reach 96 or 98. The last two levels can be tough but thats it. Watch Havocs stream if in doubt.

The screenshot shows 91,75 in 40 hours.

http://i.imgur.com/sGphPbw.jpg

leveling is really easy once you know how to.


What are you talking about? Did I ever say leveling is hard or something?
It's just a matter of dedication, if you keep grinding you will get the level, if you don't then you won't. There is nothing to know about and there is no magical trick.

On October 07 2015 08:59 Frankenberry wrote:
The people who use "no life" in a sentence are almost always the people who have no idea what they are talking about

Also you seem to misunderstand something basic about this game. 100 is not a mandatory level to reach. The last 10 or levels don't add much to your characters potential (same thing goes for Diablo 2). It is only there to be a challenge. It is not max level in WoW or lvl 70 in D3.


I have no idea about POE because I used the term of "going no life"? I've been playing this game for almost 4 years. Since alpha days, you can calculate. And I probably have played this game more than anyone in this thread. When I started playing this game there wasn't even ACT3 and we would use ACT2 sins as map device. Yeah, but I don't know because I said no life

And by the way, the term of going no life is quite different than accusing someone with being no life. I actually asked my friends before 1M started, "Are we going no life or just casual?". But I believe you would get offended by this question too. They said no life and we were at top 30 in HC, just before we finally went to bed.

And I don't know why you guys seem to think that I want to get 100 for some reason. No dude, I don't think 100 is a mandatory and no I don't want to get to 100. I said many times in this thread that I don't give a fuck about 100. I only said that my leveling stage(not just early, through out the all game) shouldn't be affected at all because some guy reaches 100 pretty fast.

Why make me grind longer just because Havoc or Weasel or some other dude gets to 100 in 2 weeks? If you wanna make it longer for them to reach 100, just increase the required XP or I don't know increased the XP penalty after 95 or something, why would you ever reduce the XP on maps so EVERYONE gains less XP and not just them? I don't know if you guys noticed but people who grind for 100 is not the only players who run high level maps.

Last league on my last char, I was running 80-81 all day long just because I like hard maps and I would even run Uber from time to time. And I was LVL86 when I started running 80s. It kinda gets boring when you start to one shot everything you know.

Before Awakening(and OP dried lake), I would start running 66 maps when I was LVL60(2 66 would make me 61, 2 67 would make me 62, and so on). And by the time I reached LVL75-80 I would already be running Courtyard-Palace all day.

You may like running easy maps but I don't. The game gets pretty boring when everything starts to blow up after one hit.
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