On March 17 2012 00:39 Wegandi wrote: A big draw of Diablo for me was always the story. How is the story in PoE? Also if anyone has an extra beta key I would kill for one. I think PoE and D3 will do well, but with the direction D3 has taken it probably won't stick around as long as PoE will. I love games that have a lot of options, whether or not they are optimal.
I need Justin Bieber dead, i'll give you your reward when the news arrive.
Also Diablo 3 will beat this by miles by simply being a Blizzard title.
On March 17 2012 00:39 Wegandi wrote: A big draw of Diablo for me was always the story. How is the story in PoE? Also if anyone has an extra beta key I would kill for one. I think PoE and D3 will do well, but with the direction D3 has taken it probably won't stick around as long as PoE will. I love games that have a lot of options, whether or not they are optimal.
Currently not much is known about the story, more will be released in the open beta.
Path of Exile - The monetizing models in PoE are based on Free To Play. Very close to League of Legends ideas. - The game is using semi 3D engine graphics. - The declared goals of the game is to make customization of gameplay easy and make competitions easy and happening often.
Semi-3D is wrong unless you know something I don't. IIRC The developers said the game is completely 3D (aside from the GUI).
The last point also sounds a bit strange to me, namely "customization of gameplay", which is quite ambiguous. I guess the best way to describe it is there will be many modes and/or rule-sets available on how to play this game, including open PvP (to contrast with the Diablo 3 point).
Path of Exile - The monetizing models in PoE are based on Free To Play. Very close to League of Legends ideas. - The game is using semi 3D engine graphics. - The declared goals of the game is to make customization of gameplay easy and make competitions easy and happening often.
Semi-3D is wrong unless you know something I don't. IIRC The developers said the game is completely 3D (aside from the GUI).
The last point also sounds a bit strange to me, namely "customization of gameplay", which is quite ambiguous. I guess the best way to describe it is there will be many modes and/or rule-sets available on how to play this game, including open PvP (to contrast with the Diablo 3 point).
They have also said that true level-difference of areas is not an option because of the engine. The graphics seen by the user is closer to Diablo 2 than Diablo 3. I wrote it mostly to give a better understanding about the difference in what you see on the screen in the game.
Customization of gameplay is intentionally vague. It covers the modes planned as you mention and the planned custom leagues.
Server just went down for patch 0.9.7, supposed to be back in a few minutes
Version 0.9.7 Notes:
Path of Exile's higher difficulty levels are a lot more difficult than before! It's expected that players will have to pick defensive options in order to be able to survive. We've wiped all the passive skills again. Please take care reallocating your passives so that you can use your equipment and gems.
New Content:
Added a new monster type, the Goatman Shaman, which uses Fireball and Molten Shell. Added a new skill - Puncture: Punctures the target, causing them to bleed. While bleeding, they take damage over time based on how much damage was dealt in the initial hit. The bleeding deals more damage while they move. Puncture works with bows, daggers, claws or swords. Added a new skill - Lightning Arrow: Fires a charged arrow at the target, causing them to be struck by a bolt of lightning which damages nearby enemies. Added a new skill - Summon Skeletons: Summons a group of slow moving skeletal minions. They last 20 seconds before expiring and do not require a corpse when casting. Added a new skill - Burning Arrow: Fires an arrow that deals fire damage to its target and has an increased chance of setting it on fire. Added nine player aura skills: Anger (Fire Damage), Hatred (Cold Damage), Wrath (Lightning Damage), Discipline (Energy Shield), Grace (Evasion), Determination (Armour), Purity (Elemental Resistances), Haste (Attack Speed and Cast Speed) and Vitality (Life Regeneration). Added a new support gem - Elemental Proliferation: Elemental status effects (for example, freezing or burning) caused by this skill also affect nearby enemies. Added a new support gem - Blood Magic: This skill is cast using life rather than mana. Converted the old Multiple Projectiles support gem to Greater Multiple Projectiles and added a new Lesser Multiple Projectiles support gem. These add four and two projectiles respectively (with different penalties) but can be stacked. Added a new keystone passive - Phase Acrobatics: 20% chance to dodge spell damage. Added a new keystone passive - Arrow Dodging: Doubles chance to evade projectiles. Moved the "Monsters can have one additional curse" ability to a new keystone passive - Whispers of Doom. Added 11 new Unique items.
Major Features:
We've updated the party screen, both cosmetically and functionally. It now uses consistent user interface that will also be used elsewhere to represent characters. There are now popup notifications that appear at the bottom right of the screen when new party events occur. Added support for skills that can be toggled on/off and reserve a portion of your mana while they're on. Examples are Tempest Shield, Righteous Fire and the new player auras. If you have the Blood Magic keystone passive, then life is reserved instead. Substantially less data about external entities is sent now. Players will notice less lag when first approaching other characters. Added taunt animations to many monsters. Added larger custom icons for keystones and notable passives. Improved the visibility of connections between selected passives. Improved the website passive skill tree planner functionality to include a search, minimum distance finder and ability to show similar passives. Revamped chest spawning to include clusters of barrels and similar chests. Overall, chests are now less common than before but drop more items. Experience is now only shared with other players who are near you (roughly two screens). Monsters are still made harder by players elsewhere on the level.
Minor Features:
Many monsters have new skills - Ghost Pirates cast Flicker Strike, Oak casts Immortal Call, Kraityn's Bandits use Explosive Arrow and Water Elementals use Ice Nova. Improved forum search functionality. Currency items now have blue text that describes what they do in a much clearer way. Small chests (that can be opened with damage) no longer show hover text unless you put the mouse cursor over them. Chests are no longer spawned very close to entrances/exits of areas. The passive tree now starts off slightly zoomed out and its maximum zoom distance is greater. Spiders now have a random delay before they crawl out of the pit. Gems now display their mana cost, mana multiplier or mana reservation amounts. Raised Spectres don't leave corpses any more. Reduced the size of skill popups so that the text isn't too large. Standardised the font sizes and colours used in the UI. Keystone passives now have flavour text. Removed the Weaver's Chambers waypoint. Most locations on the quest screen map now have new hover art. Renamed most placeholder monsters. Brutus now explodes shortly after being slain. Merveil's Lair now has a new exit. Updated several of the audio tracks with extended versions. Small spiders now sometimes leap before they attack. The rewards for most quests have changed to a different set of gems. Improved the effects of many skills including Spark, Shock Nova and Poison Arrow. The layout of the Upper Prison has been changed in preparation for upcoming improvements. Transitions between various world areas have been improved so that they don't have repeated exits. Stash tabs are now loaded when accessed. Continued to incrementally improve the art, effects, environments and sound.
Balance:
Made higher difficulties substantially harder so that defensive choices are more necessary. You now receive your first support gem once you enter Merveil's caves, rather than in Act Two. You can now purchase Jeweler's Orbs and Orbs of Fusing from Act Two vendors. Changed the armour and evasion calculations to result in those defensive properties yielding around 25% more mitigation than before. Increased the physical damage reduction (armour) cap from 75% to 90%. Most skill gems have changed starting levels. The mods on rare items are now picked and generated differently. Reduced the amount that shields vary between tiers. Defensive properties of armour pieces and many defensive mods on items now ramp up more than before after level 30. Changed damage reflection and the PvP damage multiplier to both be linear. Increased the block values of dexterity shields. Improved the progression of flasks so that higher levels are never downgrades. Rebalanced critical strike multiplier values across the board. Reduced the level that three-socket items start appearing. Increased the chances of finding two linked sockets on items (by reducing how often they appear without links). The damage of the first Wand has been increased. Level 2 gems have become level 1 gems so that they're usable even if you haven't gained a level by the time you arrive at town. Base maximum charges for each class are now 3 of each type rather than 2 of each type. "Life gain per target" mods have been reduced in size and made available on fewer item slots. Made Unique items slightly more common.
Monster Balance:
Increased the damage and reduced the attack speed of monsters that appear in groups. Bosses now scale up their life, energy shield and item drop bonuses more with additional players. Higher rarity bosses have more scaling. Rebalanced the rate of random boss packs throughout the game. Damage reflection auras now only occur on level 40+ monsters and reflect a flat 25% of damage dealt rather than a sliding scale based on level. This is not more reflection than before. Reduced the maximum attack distance (and substantially increased the damage) of Skeletal Casters. Additionally increased rate of rare bosses in the Maelstrom of Chaos. Rhoas now have a much lower aggression-trigger-distance but are more dangerous. Reduced the likelihood of Auras spawning on rare monsters. Shadow Fragments now deal half physical, half chaos damage with their attacks. The Maelstrom Hillocks are now tougher. Slightly reduced the deadliness of the "deadly" monster mod. Reduced the amount of items dropped by "of Wealth" boss monsters.
Passive Skill Balance:
The passive skill tree now has new and more powerful defensive options. Reduced the values of some Life Regeneration per Second nodes on the passive tree. The maximum number of additional charges you can get from the passive tree is now +3. The two "gain power charge under condition" passive skills were removed. These type of effects will come from active skills (more are coming). All passives that gave bonus effects to charges were removed for now. This allows us to balance the charges to be more useful without making them mandatory.
Active Skill Balance:
Power Siphon now acts like Infernal Blow in that it counts kills that occur a short time after the skill is used (so that it's useful in party situations). It also now has the Culling Strike effect (outright killing targets that reduced to less than 10% life). Normalised the balance of Cleave and Sweep slightly so that there isn't such a large disparity. The multiple projectiles support gems now grant additional projectile damage when they level up, rather than physical damage. Rain of Arrows is now affected by the Point Blank Archer keystone passive. Sweep now hits in a full circle again (rather than a 300 degree arc). Removed Cleave's bonus against the selected target. The damage against non-targeted enemies is now higher. The damage of Fireball and Freezing Pulse have been increased. Discharge's damage has been nerfed. Slightly increased the radius of Detonate Dead's explosion. Spark now fires three sparks by default. Reduced the number of Raised Zombies available at early levels.
Bug Fixes:
The bug where the top 5% of the screen was blurred under some graphics drivers is now fixed. If you disabled anti-aliasing or post-processing to temporarily fix this issue, we recommend turning at least post-processing back on again. Some old cards will not be able to enable anti-aliasing while post-processing is enabled now. Fixed a client crash related to kicking people from a party that they've already left. Power Siphon now works correctly with the Multiple Projectiles support gem. Fixed a bug where a vendor recipe would allow you to gain information on how many mods an unidentified rare has. Fixed a bug where the rare name matching vendor recipe worked with unidentified items. Restored the limit of 32 players per town instance after fixing problems with joining a town that had too many players. Fixed a bug where decals could cause performance problems. You can no longer sell quest items. Removed distortion from all auras to prevent the effect of players/monsters being doubled up. Monsters now face you when taunting, which fixes the problem where they'd arbitrarily turn away in combat. Fixed a bug where auras would rotate with their owners.
On March 16 2012 23:57 radiatoren wrote: I do not necessary see very much common ground between D3 and PoE. I see a lot of one vs the other threads and I really cannot see much point in it: Diablo 3 - The monetizing models in Diablo 3 are heavier than standard, but designed around normal store-sale. - The game is using full 3D engine graphically. - The declared goal of the game is to focus on PvE.
Path of Exile - The monetizing models in PoE are based on Free To Play. Very close to League of Legends ideas. - The game is using semi 3D engine graphics. - The declared goals of the game is to make customization of gameplay easy and make competitions easy and happening often.
As a Diablo-game Diablo 3 will be a very good Hack'n'Slash PvE-game. It is catering to the standard Hack'n'Slash community. Path of Exile has some very ambitious goals about using a Hack'n'Slash as a competition-platform, It is catering to competitive players from a lot of different games, while at the same time picking up some of the Hack'n'Slash-community. There is no doubt that D3 will vastly outnumber PoE at release. The difference is that through time D3 will loose a lot of players to new games coming out and people getting bored. PoE is running a longer plan where they hope to increase number of players over time and to create a competitive platform for playing hack'n'slash multiplayer.
Edit: Please be awere that competitive I= PvP. Ladder-races are based on getting through PvE content the fastest. PvP is only a subset of competition.
And from where you know what plays blizzard have abouth diablo 3 ? , how many expansions etc ? there is no info yet , buy you already know that. Diablo 3 will have arenas PvP like in WoW so i dont if you like the game you really never get bored by it. Give some facts , why diablo 3 will lose players by time , and PoE will have more and more players by time.. because i dont get your thinking way . I give you some facts then , in the past many games wannabe diablo 2 , many developers was talking "we are making make better then diablo 2 etc" and these games was maby popular some days , just because ppl you you hype it..
Yes blizzard change a bit..but the fact is diablo series will always be Hack'n'Slash classic , no game even come close to diablo , you can like it or dont like it , but this are the facts.
On March 16 2012 23:57 radiatoren wrote: I do not necessary see very much common ground between D3 and PoE. I see a lot of one vs the other threads and I really cannot see much point in it: Diablo 3 - The monetizing models in Diablo 3 are heavier than standard, but designed around normal store-sale. - The game is using full 3D engine graphically. - The declared goal of the game is to focus on PvE.
Path of Exile - The monetizing models in PoE are based on Free To Play. Very close to League of Legends ideas. - The game is using semi 3D engine graphics. - The declared goals of the game is to make customization of gameplay easy and make competitions easy and happening often.
As a Diablo-game Diablo 3 will be a very good Hack'n'Slash PvE-game. It is catering to the standard Hack'n'Slash community. Path of Exile has some very ambitious goals about using a Hack'n'Slash as a competition-platform, It is catering to competitive players from a lot of different games, while at the same time picking up some of the Hack'n'Slash-community. There is no doubt that D3 will vastly outnumber PoE at release. The difference is that through time D3 will loose a lot of players to new games coming out and people getting bored. PoE is running a longer plan where they hope to increase number of players over time and to create a competitive platform for playing hack'n'slash multiplayer.
Edit: Please be awere that competitive I= PvP. Ladder-races are based on getting through PvE content the fastest. PvP is only a subset of competition.
And from where you know what plays blizzard have abouth diablo 3 ? , how many expansions etc ? there is no info yet , buy you already know that. Diablo 3 will have arenas PvP like in WoW so i dont if you like the game you really never get bored by it. Give some facts , why diablo 3 will lose players by time , and PoE will have more and more players by time.. because i dont get your thinking way . I give you some facts then , in the past many games wannabe diablo 2 , many developers was talking "we are making make better then diablo 2 etc" and these games was maby popular some days , just because ppl you you hype it..
Yes blizzard change a bit..but the fact is diablo series will always be Hack'n'Slash classic , no game even come close to diablo , you can like it or dont like it , but this are the facts.
You post was rather hard to read, but I think I understand what you're trying to say, I could be wrong tho as english can be a tricky language.
One D3 Expan has been confirmed, and you might wanna play Titan's Quest before you say no game comes close when many would argue it's even better than D2. Stating D3 will lose players over time is a given, every game in history has lost players over time it just happens, a large portion of players just don't stick to a single game and move on when the next title comes out or go back to a different game after trying out a new one. Many people dislike the limited amount of pvp planned, which we still have no date on when it will come out and to many arenas just aren't interesting compared to world pvp or battleground type play. Blizzard North created D1 and D2, and left the company between 2003-2004 so to say the current Blizzard gets the respect of those 2 games is kind of a stretch, it is a brand new team building a game based on what Blizzard North created with D1/D2, so in many ways they are the same as the many developers talking about making a better game as you refer to them.
On March 19 2012 01:28 radiatoren wrote: They have also said that true level-difference of areas is not an option because of the engine. The graphics seen by the user is closer to Diablo 2 than Diablo 3. I wrote it mostly to give a better understanding about the difference in what you see on the screen in the game.
Oh that's what you mean by 3D. Well I don't think Diablo 3 supports proper 3D calculations either. Both of the games have ramps and elevation visually, but I guess Diablo 3's looks better and is more significant/substantial.
I would not say PoE has D2 graphics though — I guess you mean like graphics style? as opposed to engine or quality maybe? (in reference to how Diablo 3 is supposedly too colorful and blurry) I guess that makes sense. I didn't understand what you meant orginally.
@NotSorry Thanks a ton for posting the patch notes! Been a bit busy to check the website. Auras seem like a really cool addition, However I feel they should be limited to a single class. Such as the Templar becoming a defense support character as it would promote party play. Currently there isn't much that promotes playing with a party.
The new skills look great. Burning Arrow excites me as I've been messing around with elemental rangers and this would be perfect, also it reminds me of Diablo2 when I was a noob spamming fire arrow skills. Seeing as 'burning' is great in PoE this will just mow down the rare mobs. I haven't had a chance to play PoE in awhile since I've been playing Starcraft2 but I'm gonna load it up tonight.
With these new evasion keystones I feel that I won't need Iron reflexes anymore and can just go 1 handed max evasion Duelist and play a 'safer' class instead of just pure DPS. Which would be better one handed sword or axe?
In honor of 0.9.7 I'll be giving out a beta account randomly to someone who posts after this stating they still need one. I will ignore brand new accounts so don't try any multi-account spam crap.
On March 19 2012 23:09 NotSorry wrote: In honor of 0.9.7 I'll be giving out a beta account randomly to someone who posts after this stating they still need one. I will ignore brand new accounts so don't try any multi-account spam crap.
On March 19 2012 23:09 NotSorry wrote: In honor of 0.9.7 I'll be giving out a beta account randomly to someone who posts after this stating they still need one. I will ignore brand new accounts so don't try any multi-account spam crap.
I would really like to get an account/invite, watching the Invite Countdown App gets tedious.
Stumbled across PoE about a month ago, never thought about looking in non-SC2 related stuff on TL...
Elemental skeletons and caster skeletons now resist their appropriate elements. Lightning arrow now explodes when hitting terrain as well as monsters. Cleave now averages the attack speed of your two weapons if you are dual wielding. Removed the 1% pierce chance from Puncture. Reduced the mana cost of level 1 Cleave. Increased the damage of level 1 Freezing Pulse. Increased the damage of Fireball at higher levels.
Bug Fixes:
Enhanced blocking on shields will now modify the shield's value properly (and make it blue). Fixed the Fairgraves quest so that you don't have to fetch the Allflame again if you've already given it to him. Set Maelstrom of Chaos areas to have the correct levels again (all 60). Increased projectile speed now affects arrows properly. Tempest Shield's mana reservation now works properly. Fixed a client crash related to the Blood Magic support gem. Fixed a bug where Necromantic Aegis was not working properly in 0.9.7a.
On March 19 2012 23:09 NotSorry wrote: In honor of 0.9.7 I'll be giving out a beta account randomly to someone who posts after this stating they still need one. I will ignore brand new accounts so don't try any multi-account spam crap.
If you don't mind could you do beta key giveaways as a PM thing instead of posting in thread as it causes alot of spam.
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