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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
January 07 2015 11:07 GMT
#17601
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Take more life over more damage.
Can't hit if you can't live.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 07 2015 11:11 GMT
#17602
On January 07 2015 20:07 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Take more life over more damage.
Can't hit if you can't live.

This and don't attempt to make a too funky char. Focus on something, it's best to do spec just for one spell element / weapon type. Though I'm sure you could do a character which just gets general spell dmg or melee weapon dmg without focusing on something, but that wouldn't be that good I suppose.
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
January 07 2015 12:55 GMT
#17603
well. i'm late to the party.

downloading now.

i always preferred D1 over D2. lets see how this turns out.
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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
January 07 2015 13:11 GMT
#17604
On January 07 2015 20:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:07 Superouman wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Take more life over more damage.
Can't hit if you can't live.

This and don't attempt to make a too funky char. Focus on something, it's best to do spec just for one spell element / weapon type. Though I'm sure you could do a character which just gets general spell dmg or melee weapon dmg without focusing on something, but that wouldn't be that good I suppose.


What's a good spell to aim for? Is there a viable Frost-based character?
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 13:57:42
January 07 2015 13:57 GMT
#17605
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Don't use your currency ( orbs ) until lvl 50. Then, still don't use them.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 14:10:47
January 07 2015 14:06 GMT
#17606
On January 07 2015 22:11 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:11 HolydaKing wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:07 Superouman wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Take more life over more damage.
Can't hit if you can't live.

This and don't attempt to make a too funky char. Focus on something, it's best to do spec just for one spell element / weapon type. Though I'm sure you could do a character which just gets general spell dmg or melee weapon dmg without focusing on something, but that wouldn't be that good I suppose.


What's a good spell to aim for? Is there a viable Frost-based character?

I think all frost spells are sort of viable, my favourite one would be Freezing Pulse but all can work, you just need to know how. A beginner tip would also be that you can level all the gems without drawbacks, meaning if you have more gems than you need, the gems you use won't level slower. They level all at the same (full) speed. You should also get gems in your 2nd weapon set, those level as well.

At the start Ice Nova is really, really strong, so I'd advice using it if you go for a Frost based build. It becomes somewhat weaker over time but can still be used at end game if you got good gear.

While leveling a caster +1 Cold/Fire/Lightning gem weapon is also damn strong, so if you don't find one, then create one through vendor recipes. For a +1 Cold gem weapon that would be selling a magic Wand/Sceptre + Sapphire ring and an Orb of Alteration (so you should be able to do one at around lvl 10-12 when you find/buy a Sapphire ring). The full list of those is found here.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
January 07 2015 17:06 GMT
#17607
On January 07 2015 21:55 Legionnaire wrote:
well. i'm late to the party.

downloading now.

i always preferred D1 over D2. lets see how this turns out.


It's never too late. Lets say though that PoE is more like D2 LoD than D2 and following that even less like D1.

On January 07 2015 22:57 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Don't use your currency ( orbs ) until lvl 50. Then, still don't use them.


lol, I wouldn't give that line. Transmutation orbs and vendor recipes are useful in the beginning. But the other lines you got are quite good. To be honest, PoE is way too deep to just give one line of acvice to beginners. Just don't let the depth discourage you and keep having fun learning the game.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 18:22:17
January 07 2015 18:18 GMT
#17608
On January 07 2015 22:57 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Don't use your currency ( orbs ) until lvl 50. Then, still don't use them.


You shouldn't use good orbs (alchemy chaos fuse divine exalted) but transmutes and alterations should be used liberally (but be sure you are making good use of them). You will need some to roll maps when you get there, but being out of these orbs isn't a bad thing. Knowing how to craft efficiently will speed up your leveling which will lead to more profits later on in the game.

On January 07 2015 23:06 HolydaKing wrote:
While leveling a caster +1 Cold/Fire/Lightning gem weapon is also damn strong, so if you don't find one, then create one through vendor recipes. For a +1 Cold gem weapon that would be selling a magic Wand/Sceptre + Sapphire ring and an Orb of Alteration (so you should be able to do one at around lvl 10-12 when you find/buy a Sapphire ring). The full list of those is found here.


I wouldn't bother with the recipe until you can find your ideal 3L at a vendor (typically you'll find it by level 30 if you're diligent), although I normally level flameblast so it is imba enough that you don't need +1 early on.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 07 2015 18:59 GMT
#17609
I'm excited to see some new people :O

1. Don't craft, can't be emphasized enough
2. Learn vendor recipes, some of the equip recipes are useful (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system)
3. Use poe.trade. (Buy a goldrim, it's great helmet for leveling).
4. Also masters aren't worth doing until lvl 50 or so, so merciless
5. Keep your stash organized. I like to do a page for currency, a page for gems, then pages of equips I might use or are valuable.
6. Look in the guild stash. It's mostly junk that I would like to take out and vendor for alts but it's too much of a hassle, but honestly some of it might be decent for beginners
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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
January 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#17610
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?


You don't need to full clear every area, just move on
There is no fate, but what we make.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 07 2015 23:26 GMT
#17611
On January 08 2015 02:06 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:55 Legionnaire wrote:
well. i'm late to the party.

downloading now.

i always preferred D1 over D2. lets see how this turns out.


It's never too late. Lets say though that PoE is more like D2 LoD than D2 and following that even less like D1.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 22:57 vndestiny wrote:
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

Don't use your currency ( orbs ) until lvl 50. Then, still don't use them.


lol, I wouldn't give that line. Transmutation orbs and vendor recipes are useful in the beginning. But the other lines you got are quite good. To be honest, PoE is way too deep to just give one line of acvice to beginners. Just don't let the depth discourage you and keep having fun learning the game.

I cringe thinking of the amount of chaos orbs I've wasted for no good reason.

On a different note, how much ehp and dps do you roughly need to do Obas Cused Trove safely? Let's say perfect roll.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Oba's_Cursed_Trove
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 01:25:47
January 08 2015 01:24 GMT
#17612
On January 08 2015 03:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm excited to see some new people :O

1. Don't craft, can't be emphasized enough
2. Learn vendor recipes, some of the equip recipes are useful (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system)
3. Use poe.trade. (Buy a goldrim, it's great helmet for leveling).
4. Also masters aren't worth doing until lvl 50 or so, so merciless
5. Keep your stash organized. I like to do a page for currency, a page for gems, then pages of equips I might use or are valuable.
6. Look in the guild stash. It's mostly junk that I would like to take out and vendor for alts but it's too much of a hassle, but honestly some of it might be decent for beginners

HINT: Poe.Trade is a website. :D The name is kinda confusing. Also, I love doing Elreon quests at any point of the game, they good XP and are done quickly.
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 01:48:13
January 08 2015 01:42 GMT
#17613
If a newbie is gonna be playing any HC my line of advice would be something like

Don't be ashamed to outright skip dicey mobs / packs.

Saw a lvl 74 MFer rip a 5-link Shavs to living blood on a lvl 67 map. "I can handle it." Famous last words. Abaxoth is another bad one and sprinkler totems are also terrible. Also, big skellies/vaal hammer dudes with powerful crits etc.

Other than that if you need any item upgrades its always fine to start picking up good blue bases or even transmuting whites. A blue chest with decent health and one resist is way better than a yellow one with a bunch of low rolls and useless stats.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 08 2015 01:56 GMT
#17614
On January 08 2015 10:42 KasPra wrote:
If a newbie is gonna be playing any HC my line of advice would be something like

Don't be ashamed to outright skip dicey mobs / packs.

Saw a lvl 74 MFer rip a 5-link Shavs to living blood on a lvl 67 map. "I can handle it." Famous last words. Abaxoth is another bad one and sprinkler totems are also terrible. Also, big skellies/vaal hammer dudes with powerful crits etc.


I quit at 85 hardcore and I fought only one beyond boss the entire time I played lol

Also a couple bosses I just never attempted.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 03:40:55
January 08 2015 03:39 GMT
#17615
Well if it's for HC, the advice can hold in 2 words.
Over prepare.

And if you're prepared, stick to the plan damn it. That one is for me...
Been attempting HC "seriously" lately, had a plan for cruel dominus (I usually die a bunch of time to him and don't give a damn since it's SC). Played summoner, had daresso's shield for lvl 54 and necromantic aegis. Went in at lvl 52 because I got impatient. Zombies died too fast, had to run frantically all around to get corpses, got into a pack a blue, and ripped. Doesn't mean the plan would have worked, but all I had to do was stick to it damn it....
At least I didn't rip the shield ^^

Btw while we're at it, and as I'm trying the same stuff soon, would it make a difference ? Counting on the spellblock on low life, but low life may be too late for my zombies ? What do you guys think ?
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 08 2015 06:45 GMT
#17616
On January 08 2015 10:42 KasPra wrote:
If a newbie is gonna be playing any HC my line of advice would be something like

Don't be ashamed to outright skip dicey mobs / packs.

Saw a lvl 74 MFer rip a 5-link Shavs to living blood on a lvl 67 map. "I can handle it." Famous last words. Abaxoth is another bad one and sprinkler totems are also terrible. Also, big skellies/vaal hammer dudes with powerful crits etc.

Other than that if you need any item upgrades its always fine to start picking up good blue bases or even transmuting whites. A blue chest with decent health and one resist is way better than a yellow one with a bunch of low rolls and useless stats.


RIPped to a Living Blood mob in a Lvl 70 map with Vulnerability mod with a Lvl 83 character

didn't see the bleed attack, was using Quicksilver Flask, tried reacting to the bleed sound but was dead by the time I was mashing Staunching flask

never spawned Abaxoth, but killed all the other Beyond bosses that spawned
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
January 08 2015 10:59 GMT
#17617
On January 08 2015 12:39 Cynry wrote:
Well if it's for HC, the advice can hold in 2 words.
Over prepare.

And if you're prepared, stick to the plan damn it. That one is for me...
Been attempting HC "seriously" lately, had a plan for cruel dominus (I usually die a bunch of time to him and don't give a damn since it's SC). Played summoner, had daresso's shield for lvl 54 and necromantic aegis. Went in at lvl 52 because I got impatient. Zombies died too fast, had to run frantically all around to get corpses, got into a pack a blue, and ripped. Doesn't mean the plan would have worked, but all I had to do was stick to it damn it....
At least I didn't rip the shield ^^

Btw while we're at it, and as I'm trying the same stuff soon, would it make a difference ? Counting on the spellblock on low life, but low life may be too late for my zombies ? What do you guys think ?


At Dominus, use portals liberally. It makes the second stage easy as hell.

On January 08 2015 15:45 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 10:42 KasPra wrote:
If a newbie is gonna be playing any HC my line of advice would be something like

Don't be ashamed to outright skip dicey mobs / packs.

Saw a lvl 74 MFer rip a 5-link Shavs to living blood on a lvl 67 map. "I can handle it." Famous last words. Abaxoth is another bad one and sprinkler totems are also terrible. Also, big skellies/vaal hammer dudes with powerful crits etc.

Other than that if you need any item upgrades its always fine to start picking up good blue bases or even transmuting whites. A blue chest with decent health and one resist is way better than a yellow one with a bunch of low rolls and useless stats.


RIPped to a Living Blood mob in a Lvl 70 map with Vulnerability mod with a Lvl 83 character

didn't see the bleed attack, was using Quicksilver Flask, tried reacting to the bleed sound but was dead by the time I was mashing Staunching flask

never spawned Abaxoth, but killed all the other Beyond bosses that spawned


It can also be quite dangerous if you are using Cwdt+EC+IC set up and you end up bleeding but recieve no dmg because of IC but IC runs out before the bleeding does.^^
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 08 2015 16:48 GMT
#17618
On January 07 2015 21:55 Legionnaire wrote:
i always preferred D1 over D2. lets see how this turns out.

I knew I couldn't have been the only one!
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
January 08 2015 20:15 GMT
#17619
On January 09 2015 01:48 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 21:55 Legionnaire wrote:
i always preferred D1 over D2. lets see how this turns out.

I knew I couldn't have been the only one!

Blasphemy.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
January 08 2015 21:33 GMT
#17620
On January 07 2015 20:02 SixStrings wrote:
If you had one line of advice for a total beginner, what would it be?

i think the best beginner advice i ever heard for this game is to just play and fuck it up. then roll a char you want.

There's just too much nuance to know in the beginning. The right combination of gears and skills is everything and you won't even know how to appropriately build them cause you couldnt even imagine such a possibility when you don't know certain things and concepts exists. It's pretty much faceroll till merc piety/dominus so the most important thing when you're starting off is to get experience. You can build a proper char after that if you wanna push further than merc piety/dom
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