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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
December 28 2014 11:05 GMT
#17541
Crit ele dagger feels pretty crazy when Ive normally only used non crit.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
December 28 2014 13:46 GMT
#17542
On December 28 2014 19:50 Pibacc wrote:
Melee is not as bad as people are claiming. I've been running a 2h Cyclone build on Bloodlines and killed Atziri with it about a week ago. I RIP'd on my second run but that was just me being an idiot. I made another one and at 72 I'm clearing maps easily and on my way to doing Atziri again.

Yeah I'm with you on that one. Although I'm playing torment, I'm having a blast with my 2h static striker, I oneshot trash, stun even some bosses, and it feels very safe. The only thing that's coming close to kill me now is map's merveil, and that's because my cold resist sucks.
I have yet to see high lvl maps, but I'm stomping everything so hard right now that I'm very confident about those.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8695 Posts
December 28 2014 14:05 GMT
#17543
On December 28 2014 10:56 zergnewb wrote:
I finally took part in a race. Got lvl16 in the Descent race. No idea if thats bad but I feel good with myself, think I'll try out more races.


You only get better by practicing. I believe my first vanilla descent I reached lvl 17 so it's roughly the same. It's not bad for beginning but you can obviously improve a lot if it's fun to you. I personally think racing is very fun and feels rewarding. Sadly I feel like I don't have enough time to invest into races atm.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 28 2014 18:35 GMT
#17544
Yeah ele damage scales really well this patch

Also why the heck is CoD so expensive? Doesn't help that the chaos: exalt ratio is double what it used to be...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
December 28 2014 18:51 GMT
#17545
Is hardcore league popular at all lately? I've got like 300 exalts, a legacy koams, very good iiq gear etc. Probably will never be worth anything since PoE declined in popularity, is what I am thinking, but maybe things have changed. Did the value of myself go up or..?
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
December 28 2014 22:32 GMT
#17546
I don't know if its just me, but has anyone had any crazy lag spikes going on the passed couple of days? Im there smashing weaver, then all of a sudden every enemy on screen stops moving or taking damage for 2-3 seconds, but my groundslam animation is still going strong (as in, the game is not frozen, just no movement from enemies). When the 2-3 seconds are up, im dead, and this has sort of thing has been happening to me for a few days now. Im reluctant to blame my internet/ISP since ive never had issues in the passed 2 years living where i am. Im pissed off, and taking a break, really was enjoying myself with melee for once.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 28 2014 23:58 GMT
#17547
On December 29 2014 03:51 DeltruS wrote:
Is hardcore league popular at all lately? I've got like 300 exalts, a legacy koams, very good iiq gear etc. Probably will never be worth anything since PoE declined in popularity, is what I am thinking, but maybe things have changed. Did the value of myself go up or..?

Hardcore will probably forever stay the least popular league. Most hardcore players are "competetive" players that play the new leagues for extra difficulty.

I wouldn't say that PoE declinded in popularity, I read at the day of the new leagues there was another high in players online at the same time. Hardcore however is pretty dead afaik. Also, your value probably has gone up as multiple items went legacy. Not that you need it with 300ex...
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
December 29 2014 05:35 GMT
#17548
hc is pointless. you can play hc in diablo without dying from some fucking server problems that often. piety destroyed me in pieces while i was thinking that i juked her already for 5 times in a row, game kept me sending the same f*** spot, to her very LAP. *rip my ranger

and i lose my enthusiasm when i miss the first day of leagues.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 07:15:47
December 29 2014 07:15 GMT
#17549
On December 29 2014 14:35 lastpuritan wrote:
hc is pointless. you can play hc in diablo without dying from some fucking server problems that often. piety destroyed me in pieces while i was thinking that i juked her already for 5 times in a row, game kept me sending the same f*** spot, to her very LAP. *rip my ranger

and i lose my enthusiasm when i miss the first day of leagues.

I lose my enthusiasm when I start late as well.

I have been working on this discharge build that I saw posted up, and while leveling I decided to use pillar of cage god with static strike, since its a burning discharge you end up with a ton of str nodes while leveling, and I have to say it is immensely enjoyable.
More than once I have considered just abandoning the discharge idea and grabbing some staff nodes. The dps on static is 2500 at level 43(4 linked), pretty much 1 shot anything, and I have not a single phys node.


I found hardcore in diablo 3 to be way worse, server problems made it nearly impossible to play with the rubberbanding problems and intermittant lag. Past that a bad champion mod pack will just 1 shot you and theres nothing at all you can do about it. If you meant d2 hardcore, well there's a laundry list of issues there too.

I have been playing PoE for a long time, ask evo I play like a lunatic with very low life node investment. While I don't always make it past 75 maps, I have only lost 2 characters in maps, 1 was pre-nerf offscreen chaska instadeath and the other was a lovely party member helping the precinct boss to a nice target to chain her attack off of.

I have never once in all of the time playing PoE ever died to a server problem, desync or frame freezes or whatever. I have however died plenty of times to being an idiot.


rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 08:32:37
December 29 2014 08:26 GMT
#17550
Lag OP pls not everyone can be like you.
+ Show Spoiler +
If anyone think I'm being remotely serious here, don't.

So hm any try on the buffed Immortal Flesh yet? With AA nerf the belt give an additional lvl 11/12 physical reduction of AA now. W/o it I feel AA alone is pretty lackluster atm.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 29 2014 09:05 GMT
#17551
While it seems pretty good, -5 max resistances kills it for me.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 09:40:22
December 29 2014 09:35 GMT
#17552
On December 29 2014 16:15 LagLovah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2014 14:35 lastpuritan wrote:
hc is pointless. you can play hc in diablo without dying from some fucking server problems that often. piety destroyed me in pieces while i was thinking that i juked her already for 5 times in a row, game kept me sending the same f*** spot, to her very LAP. *rip my ranger

and i lose my enthusiasm when i miss the first day of leagues.

I lose my enthusiasm when I start late as well.

I have been working on this discharge build that I saw posted up, and while leveling I decided to use pillar of cage god with static strike, since its a burning discharge you end up with a ton of str nodes while leveling, and I have to say it is immensely enjoyable.
More than once I have considered just abandoning the discharge idea and grabbing some staff nodes. The dps on static is 2500 at level 43(4 linked), pretty much 1 shot anything, and I have not a single phys node.


I found hardcore in diablo 3 to be way worse, server problems made it nearly impossible to play with the rubberbanding problems and intermittant lag. Past that a bad champion mod pack will just 1 shot you and theres nothing at all you can do about it. If you meant d2 hardcore, well there's a laundry list of issues there too.

I have been playing PoE for a long time, ask evo I play like a lunatic with very low life node investment. While I don't always make it past 75 maps, I have only lost 2 characters in maps, 1 was pre-nerf offscreen chaska instadeath and the other was a lovely party member helping the precinct boss to a nice target to chain her attack off of.

I have never once in all of the time playing PoE ever died to a server problem, desync or frame freezes or whatever. I have however died plenty of times to being an idiot.



Don't do it. ^^ My Discharger is owning endgame. Never had a build being so ridicouls overpowered, never had a build which with people refuse to map with you because it is too boring ... Avatar of Fire Discharger ftw.

edit: I died about 5+ times to instable Servers. Cruel Dominus at Release-Night of Act 3.5. Last Season Died to driver-crash, bluescreens thanks to poe .... can't say I haven't expierenced any deaths in 2 years cause of servers being retards
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 29 2014 12:54 GMT
#17553
How do you deal with ele reflect?
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 13:13:56
December 29 2014 12:57 GMT
#17554
On December 29 2014 21:54 LagLovah wrote:
How do you deal with ele reflect?

Ummm ... just kill it ^^ (if sketchy: ruby flask)
And if you are too scared use Vaal RF.
I'm currently playing my discharger on torment but the more I play it the more i get convinced that with minor tweaks the build is hardcore viable.
my numbers on discharge: + Show Spoiler +

5x End, 6x Pow Charges Discharge (+ Inc Crit Strikes + Inc Crit Dmg + Conc Effect + Ele Prolif + Life Leech):
[image loading]
Without Power Charges I have 72,7% Critchance on Discharge

Without Avatar of Fire the average damage is around 75k.
My current tree: + Show Spoiler +
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAVa5Eq4-mghDfsND1QZYFQiycTLOus1Aw214RD6yYVcY6WF8qdFXsVSqNSRs22PFs2wuCHhSwTC2PRpuh99f60h0Ur42FfRZAZp7AGpBVGjgnL-w4mjuCm-98PAWf38BmogAEs_AffEto8pZ0PC1M_69sCfbUfAYOJ-3E9s9-rY3ZYRkuVw2Rzti9_gq3PsauKjipbrXyNZJxhUbXY_165tV1zLexQrb696aOZONqFm8kqox2tzEt0jrYh2UQWHYRPV9SU5eV2fyfy6cwns3SIQmq

For HC i would get the few missing juicy hp-points instead of templar spell damage and would consider freeing one point by going over the 6% ele dmg instead of 2x 12% light dmg to celestial punishment. So with lv95 you could still go up to 165+% hp in tree. But most adjustments would be in terms of CwDT Gems I guess.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
December 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#17555
Ya the one build guide I am looking at ignores power charges and has 240% max life, I don't think that is quite necessary so I am going to modify it to an extent, will probably end up using dual curse warlords mark/ assassins mark, assuming that 5 power charges will outdmg ele weakness(not actually sure on that)

I like the look of your tree though, very aggressive, my kind of tree
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
December 29 2014 17:55 GMT
#17556
On December 29 2014 23:04 LagLovah wrote:
Ya the one build guide I am looking at ignores power charges and has 240% max life, I don't think that is quite necessary so I am going to modify it to an extent, will probably end up using dual curse warlords mark/ assassins mark, assuming that 5 power charges will outdmg ele weakness(not actually sure on that)

I like the look of your tree though, very aggressive, my kind of tree

Honestly, you don't need double curses. I had it running for some time but ended up respeccing out of it because you are killing stuff way to fast to make double curses efficient.
A fast lv70 Map in celebration of my 6L: http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5771070
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 29 2014 18:34 GMT
#17557
Couple dumb questions:

What's the target % life for characters these days? I'm seeing a lot around 110-150% now

How bad is desync for a flicker strike build? I've got a CI-crit build laid out, but dunno how much I'll facepalm.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
December 29 2014 18:59 GMT
#17558
On December 30 2014 03:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
Couple dumb questions:

What's the target % life for characters these days? I'm seeing a lot around 110-150% now

How bad is desync for a flicker strike build? I've got a CI-crit build laid out, but dunno how much I'll facepalm.

SC 110-140% i'd say, and HC ~20% more. Flickerstrike ... well ... can be pretty desyncy because of desynced mobs and you targeting them etc. in general it is not quite enjoyable imo
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 20:13:42
December 29 2014 19:58 GMT
#17559
Yeah 110% is what a bow build / other far range build might be OK with in SC. If you are a semi ranged caster I'd say you should go with 140+%. And for Melee probably 160+% even on SC. I'd add like 20-40% for each on HC.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
December 29 2014 22:56 GMT
#17560
For reference, I got 148% life, and would be sitting around 4,5k life with 60 to 90 max life on gear, except the belt which gives 30. Feels fine as melee on SC, but really depends on the other defensive mecanism your build got.
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