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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 02 2014 11:47 GMT
#16901
The only thing I dislike about this game is that it forces you to barter. I dont want to have anything to do with other players, but it seems like it is impossible.
I leveled to 67 now and started doing maps, but the most I have on my gear is 2L lol. So I am not even close to doing the build I am supposed to do according to the guide I use. :/
Off-season = best season
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
October 02 2014 12:05 GMT
#16902
How can that be ? I play 95% self found and haven't had any issue crafting 4/5l...
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
October 02 2014 12:12 GMT
#16903
On October 02 2014 20:47 Redox wrote:
The only thing I dislike about this game is that it forces you to barter. I dont want to have anything to do with other players, but it seems like it is impossible.
I leveled to 67 now and started doing maps, but the most I have on my gear is 2L lol. So I am not even close to doing the build I am supposed to do according to the guide I use. :/


Give us more details, we'll help you out . Afaik gems and uniques are the only really difficult things to obtain solo. They are on the other hand the items with the most standardized prices.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
October 02 2014 13:40 GMT
#16904
I'm playing really slowly, but with around 75% MF I've already found like 5-6 uniques, and am only about to cross the river in A3 normal.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 02 2014 13:47 GMT
#16905
On October 02 2014 20:47 Redox wrote:
The only thing I dislike about this game is that it forces you to barter. I dont want to have anything to do with other players, but it seems like it is impossible.
I leveled to 67 now and started doing maps, but the most I have on my gear is 2L lol. So I am not even close to doing the build I am supposed to do according to the guide I use. :/


Have you considered using some of the orbs you've found? Hoarding them is very inefficient in the long run.

Typically you will find a white 4L item with the right colors and then transmute/alteration it until it has two good affixes (typically life+resist). By this point you may have found a rare that is worth linking instead though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 15:42:50
October 02 2014 15:39 GMT
#16906
On October 02 2014 21:05 Cynry wrote:
How can that be ? I play 95% self found and haven't had any issue crafting 4/5l...

Well didnt really want to use my precious orbs on that crap equip I got, only have 16 fuses. :D
Also I am still missing many of the spells I need.

Guess I have to use more orbs anyway, although I am retty sure buying would be way more efficient.

On October 02 2014 22:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 20:47 Redox wrote:
The only thing I dislike about this game is that it forces you to barter. I dont want to have anything to do with other players, but it seems like it is impossible.
I leveled to 67 now and started doing maps, but the most I have on my gear is 2L lol. So I am not even close to doing the build I am supposed to do according to the guide I use. :/


Have you considered using some of the orbs you've found? Hoarding them is very inefficient in the long run.

Typically you will find a white 4L item with the right colors and then transmute/alteration it until it has two good affixes (typically life+resist). By this point you may have found a rare that is worth linking instead though.

That is something I have not even thought about. I used a few alchs instead on white items, but they were always crap. Your method sounds indeed much better, but I guess at 68 I am past the point where I want to use blue items.
Off-season = best season
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 02 2014 15:41 GMT
#16907
Getting a 4L was literally a matter of 5 jews and 4 fuses the last 4 times i did it
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 15:50:32
October 02 2014 15:42 GMT
#16908
Its literally a matter of 10 jews and 5 fuses if u've ever had vorici in ur hideout since thats the exact cost

Of course you can sell 10 jews and 5 fuses for almost 5 chaos so it may be worth considering purchasing 4-linked gear.

Use poe.trade (thats the url lol) to find gear that fits ur build.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 16:48:02
October 02 2014 16:39 GMT
#16909
On October 03 2014 00:39 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 21:05 Cynry wrote:
How can that be ? I play 95% self found and haven't had any issue crafting 4/5l...

Well didnt really want to use my precious orbs on that crap equip I got, only have 16 fuses. :D
Also I am still missing many of the spells I need.

Guess I have to use more orbs anyway, although I am retty sure buying would be way more efficient.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 22:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On October 02 2014 20:47 Redox wrote:
The only thing I dislike about this game is that it forces you to barter. I dont want to have anything to do with other players, but it seems like it is impossible.
I leveled to 67 now and started doing maps, but the most I have on my gear is 2L lol. So I am not even close to doing the build I am supposed to do according to the guide I use. :/


Have you considered using some of the orbs you've found? Hoarding them is very inefficient in the long run.

Typically you will find a white 4L item with the right colors and then transmute/alteration it until it has two good affixes (typically life+resist). By this point you may have found a rare that is worth linking instead though.

That is something I have not even thought about. I used a few alchs instead on white items, but they were always crap. Your method sounds indeed much better, but I guess at 68 I am past the point where I want to use blue items.


Some people prefer using alchs instead; it isn't a black and white situation where one method is strictly better. With the transmute/alteration method you are spending less currency at a time and your end result will have at maximum two affixes (although both of these affixes will likely be very good since it is so cheap to reroll). If you alch the item then you're guaranteed four affixes (and up to six), although chances are all of them won't be good, if any of them are. You have a much higher ceiling of what can come out although you're also investing a lot more currency without the hopes of rerolling unless you're willing to use chaos orbs which are even more expensive.

You do want to spend orbs while you're leveling up because it will increase your clear speed which will result in more items/orbs dropped. Past the point of using blues depends on what your gear looks like. If you have an item that has only two good affixes or three+ mediocre ones then you may be able to improve with a crafted blue item. Playing self found increases this threshold substantially as well since most of the drawbacks to crafting is that it is very easy to get low-mid tier rares for much cheaper than the orbs you would use to craft them from other players.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
October 02 2014 17:23 GMT
#16910
I'm still calling xyz xyz btw. Screw poe.trade, most bland name ever.

At level 68 you prob have around 10c+ worth of currency. If not then you probably did sth wrong. Just grap a simple 4l chest for 3-4c will likely double your dps.

Don't afraid to trade in poe, since it's in the game design. Noone can stop you from playing self-found though . Contrary to popular belief the mega asshat sellers areactually quite rare.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 02 2014 17:45 GMT
#16911
On October 03 2014 02:23 vndestiny wrote:
I'm still calling xyz xyz btw. Screw poe.trade, most bland name ever.

At level 68 you prob have around 10c+ worth of currency. If not then you probably did sth wrong. Just grap a simple 4l chest for 3-4c will likely double your dps.

Don't afraid to trade in poe, since it's in the game design. Noone can stop you from playing self-found though . Contrary to popular belief the mega asshat sellers areactually quite rare.

"Check xyz" rolls so much easier than "Check trade" where the other person can be like "u mean tradechat?" on top of it. =/
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2014 17:57 GMT
#16912
On October 02 2014 21:05 Cynry wrote:
How can that be ? I play 95% self found and haven't had any issue crafting 4/5l...

crafting 5l is a bitch. 150 fusings so expensive...
anything up to 4link is pretty cheap though.
liftlift > tsm
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 18:05:18
October 02 2014 18:03 GMT
#16913
Well, you don't need to use Vorici. The usual way it is like 120 fusings on average or even less. I've multiple times used less than 100, more often so than over 100. Plus, if you get super lucky you can get a 6L (only happened once to me). I also don't use his 4L recipe as I usually 4L in 3-4 fusings.

I basically don't use Vorici at all, but I'm wanting now I realized that having him at lvl 6 in hideout is super great so I'm finally pushing his lvl. He's got the best currency exchange.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 02 2014 18:06 GMT
#16914
On October 03 2014 03:03 HolydaKing wrote:
Well, you don't need to use Vorici. The usual way it is like 120 fusings on average or even less. I've multiple times used less than 100, more often so than over 100. Plus, if you get super lucky you can get a 6L (only happened once to me). I also don't use his 4L recipe as I usually 4L in 3-4 fusings.

I basically don't use Vorici at all, but I'm wanting now I realized that having him at lvl 6 in hideout is super great so I'm finally pushing his lvl. He's got the best currency exchange.

lololololol. reminds me of my friend who was trying to get 5l on his shavornne's like a year ago. fucker spent like 300 fusings before getting 5l.
liftlift > tsm
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 18:13:48
October 02 2014 18:07 GMT
#16915
Yeah having a level 6 vorici in ur hideout is roughly equivalent to printing currency, assuming you can farm/buy 64 jewellers per day (which is harder than it sounds).

Vagan, Tora and Catarina's are all pretty useless :/
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 18:16:50
October 02 2014 18:15 GMT
#16916
On October 03 2014 02:23 vndestiny wrote:
I'm still calling xyz xyz btw. Screw poe.trade, most bland name ever.

At level 68 you prob have around 10c+ worth of currency. If not then you probably did sth wrong. Just grap a simple 4l chest for 3-4c will likely double your dps.

Don't afraid to trade in poe, since it's in the game design. Noone can stop you from playing self-found though . Contrary to popular belief the mega asshat sellers areactually quite rare.

I think I have at least 30c in currency, more if I sold some stuff. The game designed around trading was kind of my intitial "complaint". It is just not something I enjoy, but I guess I will have to deal with it. Just annoying to me to know that my gear is a joke compared to what I could have if I invested some effort into trading.
Off-season = best season
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
October 02 2014 18:16 GMT
#16917
You don't really have to invest time into trading. If you're looking for stuff, just search on xyz for buyout and online. If you're selling stuff, just put a buyout on all the stuff you want to sell (this is the important part) on Procurement (makes it quick to update/bump your forum thread). Takes less than 5 minutes per day.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 18:26:43
October 02 2014 18:26 GMT
#16918
On October 03 2014 03:15 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 02:23 vndestiny wrote:
I'm still calling xyz xyz btw. Screw poe.trade, most bland name ever.

At level 68 you prob have around 10c+ worth of currency. If not then you probably did sth wrong. Just grap a simple 4l chest for 3-4c will likely double your dps.

Don't afraid to trade in poe, since it's in the game design. Noone can stop you from playing self-found though . Contrary to popular belief the mega asshat sellers areactually quite rare.

I think I have at least 30c in currency, more if I sold some stuff. The game designed around trading was kind of my intitial "complaint". It is just not something I enjoy, but I guess I will have to deal with it. Just annoying to me to know that my gear is a joke compared to what I could have if I invested some effort into trading.

Bartering for endgame gear is a bitch, but if you just need a couple resist piece rares with some side stats to do low level maps, it shouldn't cost you more than 10-20c total to gear out your character (with exception of rings/ammies). And your character will be relevant at least til level 75~80, before you'll really be hurting for BiS pieces that are way too expensive for normal people to afford.
liftlift > tsm
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 19:07:42
October 02 2014 18:53 GMT
#16919
Good builds with good skills used can make it to lvl 85+ easily on even Beyond (there of course you need to be careful) with minimal trading. My Flameblast build basically only bought his Cloak of Flame (which costed 1c), but then again I had lots of stuff in stash that I found with other chars (including a quality Flameblast which I GCP'ed to 20%).

I say with 20c invested you are able to reach lvl 85+ on some builds with ease if your dropluck isn't abysmal. Especially spell caster builds like Arc/Flameblast/Freezing Pulse etc. are strong enough with just leveling the gem and getting max res & high amounts of Life nodes.

Of course, with weapon based melee skills you are gonna need to invest more, since finding weapons that you can use for yourself is usually not happening. Though with weapon based builds out of popularity, very decent weapons are cheap nowadays... But still at least as a melee char you need to have better gear in terms of Armour/Evasion/Chaos/Life and whatnot in comparison.

And at least for me, about lvl 85 is the point when I ask myself whether playing a new char would be more fun to me... The leveling starts to get slow, at least if you don't have tons of high lvl maps.

EDIT: Also yup, trade chat is torment and XYZ makes trading so easy. Just always search for B/O and always online, and your trades are done in 1 minute.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 02 2014 18:59 GMT
#16920
Procurement and XYZ are the only waysI can play this game. I can't imagine sitting in trade chat spamming/interacting with monkeys all day trying to find/sell marginal upgrades here and there. What a nightmare.

As for the actual game, I lost a lot of steam because all my friends quit this season. I'm only Lv74 on beyond with my current character and the spec (dual searing) is actually incredibly boring and cumbersome at times. I really want to re-roll but I have no motivation since I have nobody to play with. I've actually been casually playing seasonal HC d3 (which is quite a mess) and random single player games I need to get caught up on.

Is the TL guild active and playing Beyond?
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