Path of Exile - Page 790

On July 26 2014 03:01 incinerate_ wrote:
To be honest I don't have that many issues with desync. Some precautions you can take:

- Have /oos on a macro for when you really need it.
- Always shift attack as melee
- doorways are the devil
- be careful with leap slamming if obstacles are around (this is another major desync issue).

Basically I think the more you play the more you learn to live with it/avoid it.

On the other hand the thing I am most sorely missing is a working trade system. It's so goddamn annoying especially if you want to buy an item from a guy that has totally different time zones.

On July 26 2014 03:24 MaRCsoN wrote:
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My issue is that I shouldnt have to "play to avoid" desync at all. I know how to do that, and I do it well. Without even activating any of the usual triggers for desync, my last character died in merc lower submerged because I got a ridiculous desync spike and was 2 screens away from where I actually was. Ill be honest, I havent had much of an issue with it in the past few months, but any desync is too much.

The trading and item system in this game is what makes it unique. The fact that there is no auction house gives me great joy. I already played WoW for 4 years I dont want that feeling again. Im actually worried about the changes that Chris eluded to in the forums. Something about being able to bid even when a person is offline? Cant find it right now.

On July 26 2014 03:47 incinerate_ wrote:


Honestly, I don't even know if you can fix desync so that it becomes a non-issue if you have meaningful collision detection and stun mechanics. Maybe they can improve their prediction code and include some more auto-resyncs (e.g. I still think that you do not always get resynced if you get stunned despite some anouncements I seem to recall).

Re auction house:
I think in the end it all depends on how they implement it. Diablo 3 did it wrong in my opinion.
Some things that I would like to see changed:

Being able to authorize trade requests while not being in the same act (e.g. I am mapping and somebody offers me 3c for something in my shop. I authorize the trade and it's done).

They could make a semiautomated auction house. E.g. people can submit offers which you then manually have to accept/decline. As long as it is not fully automated and fully searchable as in D3 I guess it should be okay. But then again my only other experience in this regard is D3 so I don't know.

On July 26 2014 03:24 MaRCsoN wrote:


My issue is that I shouldnt have to "play to avoid" desync at all. I know how to do that, and I do it well. Without even activating any of the usual triggers for desync, my last character died in merc lower submerged because I got a ridiculous desync spike and was 2 screens away from where I actually was. Ill be honest, I havent had much of an issue with it in the past few months, but any desync is too much.

The trading and item system in this game is what makes it unique. The fact that there is no auction house gives me great joy. I already played WoW for 4 years I dont want that feeling again. Im actually worried about the changes that Chris eluded to in the forums. Something about being able to bid even when a person is offline? Cant find it right now.

On July 26 2014 06:44 WhiteDog wrote:
Anybody knows what does the timer that I see in the log in stands for ?
By the way I'm a noob but I would gladly play with anybody in any next hard core event !

On July 26 2014 06:46 Hier wrote:

Countdown to the August expansion.

On July 27 2014 03:15 Eschaton wrote:


Countdown to the TL guild playing PoE for 5 days until everyone rips.

On July 27 2014 05:30 r.Evo wrote:

League is over after getting a char into 80ies and getting the first couple of exalts, yo!

On July 28 2014 03:41 Taguchi wrote:
GGG have said multiple times that they won't add an auction house, they'll add asynchronous website based trading instead. I take that to basically mean a CoD mail system accessible through the website interface - or something similar that requires the seller to put an item up for sale, the buyer to come to an agreement with the seller about price (possibly automation involved if seller specifies buyout but don't know for sure) and finally the buyer sending an offer and seller accepting the offer (or maybe seller CoDs the buyer so the buyer is the last to act but it's the same thing anyway).

That'd likely be in addition to trading tabs and/or some form of searching for items instead of simply browsing for them - perhaps they'll implement something similar to what procurement does and you'll be able to populate your shop with items easily while ingame. But no fully automated AH, that's been a given for a long time and I hope their stance didn't change since then.

On July 28 2014 08:55 Capped wrote:



So basically, a shitty warped hard to use version of an auction house.

On July 28 2014 09:38 rebuffering wrote:


Haha not a bad assessment, for me, the D3 auction house worked great. Don't get me wrong, i hate D3, and will never return to it, but the AH functioned just fine, as in, it was very easy to sell/buy stuff, you got your items/money immediately, it just worked well. The problem was that drops in the game were shit, and since it was using gold for the economy, inflation just made playing around in the AH a pain in the ass, since, hey i need to go farm like 10 million gold to buy some slight upgrade. And since the drop rates were so garbage back when it 1st started, the odds of you getting some sick legendary and making money off of it, was incredibly slim. Whats a pain in the ass in PoE, is sometimes, you'll msg someone for an item, and they'll say "hey, ill check after this map", which means, in best case scenario, your sitting around for 5+ mins waiting on someone for an item, or, they just plain forget. The other issue is that right now .xyz, eveyone looks for items whos sellers are Online, which at any given time, can be like 1/2 the player pool, so looking for items/upgrades means your not getting the full list of potential items/upgrades possible.

If PoE incorporated a D3 style AH In-Game, which let us set buy outs, and not requiring the seller to be online, or click accept on purchase, would make trading WAY better IMO. Its annoying waiting on people to get back to you, when you just want to get back to mapping, or if im ready to buyout an item, but the person is online but AFK, just sucks so much.

On July 28 2014 21:22 bluQ wrote:

I think you are missing the point of async. The AH in D3 was synchron, which means the second someone puts something in it could be instant-bought. That made it way easier to dominate markets with AHbots etcpp.

GGG doesn't want that. The economy will suffer anyways from guys who try to manipulate it by investing a lot and then reselling. Some instant-buy AH would make that a lot easier.

If you have 3rd party website invovled and a hand-to-hand trade you'd need to invest way more time and effort to control markets. And from a socializing PoV its also pretty neat. I dunno how many guys I added for trades etc which I ended up either helping out with items or even mapping.

Automatation always means easier automated-abuse.

On July 29 2014 04:27 rebuffering wrote:



You are correct, i did miss the point. But isn't it still possible for people to do the same type of market control with A-synch? I mean, i buy something on the cheap, and try to sell it off at a higher amount at a later time?