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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
July 11 2014 23:11 GMT
#15661
Hm, original Descent is my best race atm. Dunno why this is but in most races I get over the bottom line of the 7 point treshhold, in Descent however I always scratch on the 10 point treshold.

Dunno if I'm going to play the 1 month. Racing for the next week, then I'll see. My friends are going to play SC, dunno if I want to do that as well.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
July 11 2014 23:57 GMT
#15662
3 mins!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
July 12 2014 09:01 GMT
#15663
How is it going so far for you guys?
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
July 12 2014 10:00 GMT
#15664
On July 12 2014 18:01 Miragee wrote:
How is it going so far for you guys?


Well im playing solo, and seeing Hellman and his group already lvl 60+ is disheartening, although most of them are using flameblast, so i guess i cant feel too bad about it. As usual, new leagues are always tonnes of fun, i love the self-found factor until the league picks up, my only complaint is that the 1st 4 days are basically just playing Invasion league again, so its kinda meh. But when we get access to strong boxes, mmm i cant wait! Im lvl 38 right now, 1h/shield ground slam Rauder, cheap and tanky, just the way i like it. Going to bed now, but cant wait to play much much more!

Stay safe guys!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
July 12 2014 10:10 GMT
#15665
On July 12 2014 19:00 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 18:01 Miragee wrote:
How is it going so far for you guys?


Well im playing solo, and seeing Hellman and his group already lvl 60+ is disheartening, although most of them are using flameblast, so i guess i cant feel too bad about it. As usual, new leagues are always tonnes of fun, i love the self-found factor until the league picks up, my only complaint is that the 1st 4 days are basically just playing Invasion league again, so its kinda meh. But when we get access to strong boxes, mmm i cant wait! Im lvl 38 right now, 1h/shield ground slam Rauder, cheap and tanky, just the way i like it. Going to bed now, but cant wait to play much much more!

Stay safe guys!

Ill be playing for a few hours now.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
July 12 2014 18:24 GMT
#15666
Yea seeing Helmann party with 5 other people who were all using flameblast and searing bond kinda made me sad. I realize some of them will probably spec out of flameblast before they hit maps or something but it is so boring and predictable to go flameblast and I hope GGG buffs some other skills or nerfs flameblast so we can get some variety in the levelling techniques.
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#15667
So, posted some theorycraft on poe forums, and I'd like to get some thoughts from here as well. I'm sure there are some math of exiles around

Just as an appetizer, flicker build using Avatar of Fire to proliferate 180k+ ignite damage. Should be fun if this works...

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/967303
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 19:01:50
July 12 2014 19:01 GMT
#15668
On July 13 2014 03:40 Cynry wrote:
So, posted some theorycraft on poe forums, and I'd like to get some thoughts from here as well. I'm sure there are some math of exiles around

Just as an appetizer, flicker build using Avatar of Fire to proliferate 180k+ ignite damage. Should be fun if this works...

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/967303


I saw ZiggyD do this build a few days ago. (Or one very similar to it) It seemed to work fairly well, but he couldnt sustain a good clear speed becuase he had no reliable way of generating frenzy charges, which you need to bypass the flicker strike cooldown. Is ur plan to simply do like 1 flicker then let the prolif do its work?
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 12 2014 19:23 GMT
#15669
On July 13 2014 04:01 MaRCsoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 03:40 Cynry wrote:
So, posted some theorycraft on poe forums, and I'd like to get some thoughts from here as well. I'm sure there are some math of exiles around

Just as an appetizer, flicker build using Avatar of Fire to proliferate 180k+ ignite damage. Should be fun if this works...

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/967303


I saw ZiggyD do this build a few days ago. (Or one very similar to it) It seemed to work fairly well, but he couldnt sustain a good clear speed becuase he had no reliable way of generating frenzy charges, which you need to bypass the flicker strike cooldown. Is ur plan to simply do like 1 flicker then let the prolif do its work?


Oh, do you have a link or something like that ? Would be interested.
Didn't plan much so far actually, but was thinking about frenzy, which could double as a single target dps, relying on a more standard elemental damage setup, with fast attack/multistrike and the like. Blood rage could work if all of it kills fast enough, but then I'd have a regen issue I guess. I'll think a bit more about it.
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 20:11:53
July 12 2014 20:11 GMT
#15670
On July 13 2014 03:40 Cynry wrote:
Oh, do you have a link or something like that ? Would be interested.


It was on stream, Ill try to find it when I get home tonight and link it in here! Yea I tried doing a flicker strike build twice and I never really had much luck, this does seem like a cool idea tho~!
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
July 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#15671
Is anyone going to be doing the few party races that are left?
www.twitch.tv/varanice
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 13 2014 04:41 GMT
#15672
hmm, i think i'll do a trapper for the 1 month. probably stick wit softcore, do some kind of ele equilibrium/ele prolif firetrap
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 04:48:40
July 13 2014 04:47 GMT
#15673
So it took me like an hour to find the video. It was actually WillyWonka doing a Flicker Strike Prolif build as he was playing with chroming a 6-link Shavs. Here's the link for your enjoyment! http://www.twitch.tv/willywonka_hc/b/545368961
4:21:31 is when he starts with the flicker stuff. 4:29:11 is when he starts actually killing some stuff...
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
July 13 2014 07:13 GMT
#15674
On July 13 2014 09:57 Varanice wrote:
Is anyone going to be doing the few party races that are left?


Hm first of, half of these lie in my sleeping scedule. I didn't plan to do the rest but might I probably have time for the 1h Fracture on wednesday and the 2h FixedFamine on saturday. No intent to do turbo races, they aren't fun to me.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
July 13 2014 09:53 GMT
#15675
On July 13 2014 13:47 MaRCsoN wrote:
So it took me like an hour to find the video. It was actually WillyWonka doing a Flicker Strike Prolif build as he was playing with chroming a 6-link Shavs. Here's the link for your enjoyment! http://www.twitch.tv/willywonka_hc/b/545368961
4:21:31 is when he starts with the flicker stuff. 4:29:11 is when he starts actually killing some stuff...

Thanks man !
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 13 2014 16:46 GMT
#15676


this guy won the game
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
July 13 2014 16:58 GMT
#15677
On July 14 2014 01:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RfAztaRXE&feature=youtu.be

this guy won the game


lol, mind blown
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
July 14 2014 07:31 GMT
#15678
Ripped @ lvl 57. Ledge farming, died to some Invader doing Firestorm, almost instakilled me, was 31% fire res, really didn't have a chance! Oh well, Re-rolling time! Going to find another cheap build to do, wanted to do Arc, but theres SOOO many people doing Arc, not sure if i wanna do it. Anyways, gl guys, stay safe!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
July 14 2014 08:20 GMT
#15679
On July 14 2014 16:31 rebuffering wrote:
Ripped @ lvl 57. Ledge farming, died to some Invader doing Firestorm, almost instakilled me, was 31% fire res, really didn't have a chance! Oh well, Re-rolling time! Going to find another cheap build to do, wanted to do Arc, but theres SOOO many people doing Arc, not sure if i wanna do it. Anyways, gl guys, stay safe!


lvl57 with only 31 fire res...
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 09:43:55
July 14 2014 08:37 GMT
#15680
On July 13 2014 03:40 Cynry wrote:
So, posted some theorycraft on poe forums, and I'd like to get some thoughts from here as well. I'm sure there are some math of exiles around

Just as an appetizer, flicker build using Avatar of Fire to proliferate 180k+ ignite damage. Should be fun if this works...

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/967303


Didn't read too much of your thread, at least not the numbers, i'll just trust you math skills.

I played a flickerer for funzies on hardcore to level ~76.
My experience with it:
- your eyes will hurt, fall out, explode, implode and bleed all at the same time.
- even tho I went to limit my aps by only using up to 1.35 atk/s weapons it was still too fast to efficently target mobs.
- you need a solid and fast frenzy generator otherwise you will be too slow in terms of clearing speed.
- try to use Bloodrage if possible, my toon had positive Chaos resi on merci and enough Lifereg to sustain Bloodrage even without Frenzy charges (was using Blooddance)
- when generating frenzy charges via "on kill" you most likly won't have fun in partys.
- Quartz flask and Leap slam was mandatory to not end up in weird and strange situations ^^'
- going crit sounds funny because of "Recharge one charge on Criticalstrike" stat of flasks -> 90-100% uptime on granite and ~60% uptime on quartz is awesome as flickerer
- impact damage is HUGE. So your general idea sounds legit, just try to fix the "problems" with flickerstrike
- last but not least: /oos

edit:
looked a bit into ur passive tree; are you sure you want to go 2hand? with 1hand you could get away with a lot higher crit-efficiency (crit multi only at 55% with mediocre critchance)
and did i miss the critchance calculation? ^^ 6,68 * 4,4 = ~30% cc before equips. would end up at approx ~35% with slight crit-equips.

edit2:
forgot that flicker had critchance on quality. 4*20 = 80% so about 5% needs to be added

My 2cents to critchance, flicker strike and why I think you need auto-generation or go onehanded/dualwield for more crit:
+ Show Spoiler +

1,25 * 1,15 = 1,4375 attacks per second
1,4375 * 0,9 = ~1,3 aps with 90% accuarcy
1,3 * 0,4 = 0,52 crits per second
So roughly every second attack will crit.
With 3 frenzy stacks that would mean you will most likly consume two to proc one crit.
That would end you up with 2x frenzy usage to proc one flicker-crit to proliferate a burn.
1. frenzy = 0,77 seconds
2. frenzy = 0,533 seconds
3. frenzy = 0,44 seconds
using 3x frenzy going to take you about 1,7seconds (assuming NO ias support gem )
Now you'd need to factor in the ias from flicker into the flicker aps to know about how much a full rotation would take to proc a crit for 100% on some mob.
Out of my ass errr head i would assume flicker will end up at something like 0,4 aps with full charges and lv20 gem.
If two frenzy charges are enough to proc a crit, the left over frenzy charge would make it faster to generate the next two etc. etc.
In all what I want to show with this is that if you don't "auto"-generate the charges i doubt that the clearing speed and skill rotation will be lot of fun


Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race ....
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
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