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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 22:56:42
June 12 2014 22:24 GMT
#15341
On June 13 2014 05:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 05:38 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
So I just got 16th templar and 48 overall in today's Dchamps race.

What. The hell.
I'm not even that good. I mean, yeah, I know what I'm doing, but this is my second Dchamps race of the season, and I only did half of the first one. Summer sword abuse can explain away the 48 overall, but 16th templar is just something I shouldn't be able to do, given the obscene skill gap between me and the best.


There is very little skill involved in flameblast.

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The same can be said for many skill choices. No matter what you choose, you need to:
1: stay alive with low life and defenses
2: attack packs in the most time efficient way possible
3: be able to allocate talents, equip gear, and various other miscellany while still clearing at full speed

I can do 1, 2 is somewhat hard and is challenging for different reasons with different skills. Spec throw needs stuff to be in a line, flameblast gives you the ability to waste more time by channeling the attack. 3 is something I can't do. At all. I just sit there and craft because I can't be bothered.
I watch streamers, then I watch me, and I see all the little things they do that add up. The things I don't do. At the end of the day, there was still a 4-5 level gap between me and the top finishers of the race, and while lucky blue packs can do a lot for you, top racers can consistently finish that high, whereas this is the first time I've even come close to them.

You could just be talking about how ridiculous flameblast is in Dchamps right now, though, and on that point I'd agree. There are precious few times where I feel threatened thanks to the awe-inspiring firepower of flameblast.

I just realized I wrote a nice long post telling you why you were wrong, when I could have just asked you, a far more experienced racer, why you think you're right. Odds are good that I'm wrong and that I'll learn something if I know your reasoning here.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-12 23:09:28
June 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#15342
Well for flameblast basically all you do is put flameblast on right click, move on left click then alternate clicking as fast as possible. You can flameblast like 3-5 times a second, and constant movement keeps you very safe. You barely need to build any damage because flameblast is such a strong skill already.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 12 2014 23:27 GMT
#15343
How is this game now ? Still very popular?
我是冠军
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 13 2014 00:21 GMT
#15344
On June 13 2014 07:24 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 05:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 13 2014 05:38 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
So I just got 16th templar and 48 overall in today's Dchamps race.

What. The hell.
I'm not even that good. I mean, yeah, I know what I'm doing, but this is my second Dchamps race of the season, and I only did half of the first one. Summer sword abuse can explain away the 48 overall, but 16th templar is just something I shouldn't be able to do, given the obscene skill gap between me and the best.


There is very little skill involved in flameblast.

+ Show Spoiler +
The same can be said for many skill choices. No matter what you choose, you need to:
1: stay alive with low life and defenses
2: attack packs in the most time efficient way possible
3: be able to allocate talents, equip gear, and various other miscellany while still clearing at full speed

I can do 1, 2 is somewhat hard and is challenging for different reasons with different skills. Spec throw needs stuff to be in a line, flameblast gives you the ability to waste more time by channeling the attack. 3 is something I can't do. At all. I just sit there and craft because I can't be bothered.
I watch streamers, then I watch me, and I see all the little things they do that add up. The things I don't do. At the end of the day, there was still a 4-5 level gap between me and the top finishers of the race, and while lucky blue packs can do a lot for you, top racers can consistently finish that high, whereas this is the first time I've even come close to them.

You could just be talking about how ridiculous flameblast is in Dchamps right now, though, and on that point I'd agree. There are precious few times where I feel threatened thanks to the awe-inspiring firepower of flameblast.

I just realized I wrote a nice long post telling you why you were wrong, when I could have just asked you, a far more experienced racer, why you think you're right. Odds are good that I'm wrong and that I'll learn something if I know your reasoning here.


You're vastly over analyzing my post for some reason. It is a jab at how more than half the top 100 of every DC race is a Witch or Templar using flameblast.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
June 13 2014 00:57 GMT
#15345
On June 13 2014 08:27 Adrian_mx wrote:
How is this game now ? Still very popular?

No it's deader than Starcraft.
+ Show Spoiler +
Doing great! Still many thousands of active players, still a thriving economy, so on, so forth. We're in that lull in activity near the end of the 4-month leagues atm, but that's only a temporary problem.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
June 13 2014 01:53 GMT
#15346
I'm still salty on the fact that for sig currently, top witch is more than double the xp of top shadow, and 1.8x the xp of top ranger. This is just sad.
Pretty sure if melee splash is available at lvl 1 dual sword viper strike is better than currently ranger atm.
Case in point, last night dchamp, top ranger had lower xp than 30th witch and 16th templar, say what :|
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 13 2014 04:01 GMT
#15347
Woot made it to lvl 20 in endless!! My best race so far, still garbage compared to some of you guys but im pretty happy with it regardless. Spec Throw Ranger fyi. Racing so much funsies!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8541 Posts
June 13 2014 09:43 GMT
#15348
Forgot about todays D:C. :X Started with 15 minutes left. I made 3,5 levels in the area after the brute within 2 minutes, lol. Blue pack size for the win.

Top 20 is 5 templars and 15 witches btw. Not a single other class.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 11:36:29
June 13 2014 11:29 GMT
#15349
On June 13 2014 18:43 Miragee wrote:
Forgot about todays D:C. :X Started with 15 minutes left. I made 3,5 levels in the area after the brute within 2 minutes, lol. Blue pack size for the win.

Top 20 is 5 templars and 15 witches btw. Not a single other class.

Templar struggles against Kuduku but otherwise is just as good as witch.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 13 2014 13:18 GMT
#15350
On June 13 2014 10:53 vndestiny wrote:
I'm still salty on the fact that for sig currently, top witch is more than double the xp of top shadow, and 1.8x the xp of top ranger. This is just sad.
Pretty sure if melee splash is available at lvl 1 dual sword viper strike is better than currently ranger atm.
Case in point, last night dchamp, top ranger had lower xp than 30th witch and 16th templar, say what :|


If Shadow got Storm Call in the first chest I'm pretty sure it would be up there with Templar. Besides Kuduku and The Brute everything evaporates to Dual Broken Sword fire trap. Those two just take sooooooo long to kill without an AoE+Single Target skill, though.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 14 2014 00:33 GMT
#15351
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3440 Posts
June 14 2014 01:38 GMT
#15352
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
June 14 2014 02:30 GMT
#15353
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.

Thats a really cool idea. Didnt know about that
www.twitch.tv/varanice
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 05:07:40
June 14 2014 05:04 GMT
#15354
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.


Very cool, will try that out tonight.

So just did my best race ever! lvl 21 in Endless Ledge, Spec Throw Scion. Got 65th place, and counting down from the top of the list, i think im 4th best Scion? Is that possible? Is there anywhere to check like top 10 of each class in a race, or something like that? Thanks guys.

Edit: Just found it heh, under Season & Events tab in my Profile, 4th Scion. Woot!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 05:18:42
June 14 2014 05:18 GMT
#15355
On June 14 2014 14:04 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.


Very cool, will try that out tonight.

So just did my best race ever! lvl 21 in Endless Ledge, Spec Throw Scion. Got 65th place, and counting down from the top of the list, i think im 4th best Scion? Is that possible? Is there anywhere to check like top 10 of each class in a race, or something like that? Thanks guys.

Edit: Just found it heh, under Season & Events tab in my Profile, 4th Scion. Woot!

I filter to top 100 per page and then Ctrl+F search for class and count down.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
June 14 2014 05:27 GMT
#15356
On June 14 2014 14:04 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.


Very cool, will try that out tonight.

So just did my best race ever! lvl 21 in Endless Ledge, Spec Throw Scion. Got 65th place, and counting down from the top of the list, i think im 4th best Scion? Is that possible? Is there anywhere to check like top 10 of each class in a race, or something like that? Thanks guys.

Edit: Just found it heh, under Season & Events tab in my Profile, 4th Scion. Woot!

Congrats, and good luck doing it again! It gets a lot harder to tolerate not breaking into the top 100 after a big win like this.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
June 14 2014 06:41 GMT
#15357
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.


That's an interesting take on it for sure, I always just ST him down, who cares about souls, though it can get frustrating if you have a really bad weapon.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 08:20:57
June 14 2014 07:56 GMT
#15358
On June 14 2014 14:27 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 14:04 rebuffering wrote:
On June 14 2014 10:38 vndestiny wrote:
On June 14 2014 09:33 rebuffering wrote:
^^ Yeah if anyone has any idea how to kill the brute with Spec Throw Scion, please let me know lol. I was thinking of grabbing Decoy Totem, cause every fucking time, i get The Brute to about 10% HP, and then its just fucking impossible. Why they give him movespeed and fucking frenzy and shit, so frustrating for me.


You kill him with hit and run tatic with viper strike using 1h + shield. Lvl the viper strike in off-hand. It's better than st and feed him soul, though still will take quite a bit.


Very cool, will try that out tonight.

So just did my best race ever! lvl 21 in Endless Ledge, Spec Throw Scion. Got 65th place, and counting down from the top of the list, i think im 4th best Scion? Is that possible? Is there anywhere to check like top 10 of each class in a race, or something like that? Thanks guys.

Edit: Just found it heh, under Season & Events tab in my Profile, 4th Scion. Woot!

Congrats, and good luck doing it again! It gets a lot harder to tolerate not breaking into the top 100 after a big win like this.


Heh, yeah ill try not to get too angry when i fail hard lol. Now its Descent time, this race gives me fits, so hard.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8541 Posts
June 14 2014 09:00 GMT
#15359
Anyone from EU up for the 1 Hour Famine Party starting in 1 hour?
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 09:03:01
June 14 2014 09:02 GMT
#15360
On June 14 2014 18:00 Miragee wrote:
Anyone from EU up for the 1 Hour Famine Party starting in 1 hour?

Im gonna be doing it, but im from NA, not sure if my racing friends will be on though, so maybe?
www.twitch.tv/varanice
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