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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 01 2013 05:00 GMT
#4801
On February 01 2013 13:27 eluv wrote:
What do you guys think a 16% Split Arrow would be worth? Level 8 if it matters.

Edit: That's definitely false blitzkrieg - pretty much every support gem increases mana costs by a %, typically 10-50%.


What level does that happen? None of mine have increased in cost so far and most of them are over level 15...

and a 16% split arrow would probably sell for 3-4GCP.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 01 2013 05:02 GMT
#4802
Docks leveling is OP. I think I went from 66 to 69 today. I didn't even play all day, I wasted well over 6-7 hours with other stuff. I did 68 45% - 69 in roughly 35-40 min..
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:12:03
February 01 2013 05:04 GMT
#4803
oh my god LA + chain + LMP is soooo fun
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 01 2013 05:51 GMT
#4804
On February 01 2013 14:04 musai wrote:
oh my god LA + chain + LMP is soooo fun


Must be nice.. i have LA chain LMP and Ele dmg link but it costs 75mana, with hatred anger and the other one i can't remember I have 0 mana for it at all.

Still debating on projectile weakness vs conductivity for a curse too, have warlords mark as well but not sure if its worth using.

Finding gear is a nightmare, I read everywhere you should have 1500life to do cruel vaal.. I am nowhere near there, and the leveling in felshrine ruins is getting pretty slow at 49. Playing HC so trying to do it safe
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eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 01 2013 06:01 GMT
#4805
On February 01 2013 14:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 13:27 eluv wrote:
What do you guys think a 16% Split Arrow would be worth? Level 8 if it matters.

Edit: That's definitely false blitzkrieg - pretty much every support gem increases mana costs by a %, typically 10-50%.


What level does that happen? None of mine have increased in cost so far and most of them are over level 15...

and a 16% split arrow would probably sell for 3-4GCP.


I think one of us is misunderstanding the other. I'm talking about support gems - LMP, Chain, Added Fire Damage etc. When any of these are linked to a skill (and therefore modifying it) they increase the mana cost of that spell by a percentage. I think you know that, and we're just talking about two different things without realizing it.

Also, yes, Lightning Arrow + LMP + (well I only have the poor man's chain - fork) is pretty hilarious. The best part is how much lower it claims the DPS is than say poison arrow, but how stupidly fast it kills packs.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 06:02:22
February 01 2013 06:01 GMT
#4806
hi guys, i'm at a crossroads @ lvl 32 for my fire witch, can anyone give comments?

i'm debating whether to go top for the 2x curse (i would do ele weak + flamability to1 shot mobs) or to get defensive and take 2x body/soul + shield passives, currently i'm grouping for everything in normal and barely take dmg, but i dunno if i need the def nodes for later

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fire witch build
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 06:27:52
February 01 2013 06:07 GMT
#4807
On February 01 2013 15:01 eluv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 14:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 01 2013 13:27 eluv wrote:
What do you guys think a 16% Split Arrow would be worth? Level 8 if it matters.

Edit: That's definitely false blitzkrieg - pretty much every support gem increases mana costs by a %, typically 10-50%.


What level does that happen? None of mine have increased in cost so far and most of them are over level 15...

and a 16% split arrow would probably sell for 3-4GCP.


I think one of us is misunderstanding the other. I'm talking about support gems - LMP, Chain, Added Fire Damage etc. When any of these are linked to a skill (and therefore modifying it) they increase the mana cost of that spell by a percentage. I think you know that, and we're just talking about two different things without realizing it.

Also, yes, Lightning Arrow + LMP + (well I only have the poor man's chain - fork) is pretty hilarious. The best part is how much lower it claims the DPS is than say poison arrow, but how stupidly fast it kills packs.


Yes, but that cost is static and doesn't change by leveling it which is what the question asked (except in the case of reduced mana as previously mentioned). The levelup bonus for reduced mana is decreased mana cost.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
February 01 2013 06:11 GMT
#4808
My game keeps crashing on me while im partying...
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 01 2013 06:35 GMT
#4809
On February 01 2013 15:01 heartlxp wrote:
i'm debating whether to go top for the 2x curse (i would do ele weak + flamability to1 shot mobs) or to get defensive and take 2x body/soul + shield passives, currently i'm grouping for everything in normal and barely take dmg, but i dunno if i need the def nodes for later


I don't know if you have the HP necessary to make body and soul etc. worth it... especially as I think later on your #1 issue is going to be chaos damage nukes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
February 01 2013 07:12 GMT
#4810
anyone up for some sc maps some time soon? respect player drops, all maps go to map owner - the works.
level 70+ preferred, add me @Glull
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
February 01 2013 07:17 GMT
#4811
I'm a 48 Ranger on A2 Cruel right now Pwere. Was doing some felshrine grinding, got two levels now I guess I'll continue to Weaver and Vaal. My problem is finding a good armor with 4+ Links, even in trade. I'm still using my level 28 2slotter which is pretty useless.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 01 2013 07:20 GMT
#4812
On February 01 2013 16:17 Slardar wrote:
I'm a 48 Ranger on A2 Cruel right now Pwere. Was doing some felshrine grinding, got two levels now I guess I'll continue to Weaver and Vaal. My problem is finding a good armor with 4+ Links, even in trade. I'm still using my level 28 2slotter which is pretty useless.


I think I can get a 4L for you, but I cant get a 5L :D haha
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 01 2013 07:20 GMT
#4813
On February 01 2013 15:35 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:01 heartlxp wrote:
i'm debating whether to go top for the 2x curse (i would do ele weak + flamability to1 shot mobs) or to get defensive and take 2x body/soul + shield passives, currently i'm grouping for everything in normal and barely take dmg, but i dunno if i need the def nodes for later


I don't know if you have the HP necessary to make body and soul etc. worth it... especially as I think later on your #1 issue is going to be chaos damage nukes.


damn is this why CI is so popular on witch? is it possible to grab like 2 +40 chaos resist rings or something?
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 01 2013 07:24 GMT
#4814
I can't get the links that i want with the right stats

My killing power has dropped a lot but i cant find an upgrade for my Ranger. This is annoying =/
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
February 01 2013 07:31 GMT
#4815
On February 01 2013 16:20 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:35 Southlight wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:01 heartlxp wrote:
i'm debating whether to go top for the 2x curse (i would do ele weak + flamability to1 shot mobs) or to get defensive and take 2x body/soul + shield passives, currently i'm grouping for everything in normal and barely take dmg, but i dunno if i need the def nodes for later


I don't know if you have the HP necessary to make body and soul etc. worth it... especially as I think later on your #1 issue is going to be chaos damage nukes.


damn is this why CI is so popular on witch? is it possible to grab like 2 +40 chaos resist rings or something?


body and soul has nothing to do with hp, its great for CI regardless of chaos damage. CI is popular because everyone used it in closed beta where it had a 50% more energy shield modifier.

the only dangerous chaos mobs are snakes, vaal constructs and alchemists. snakes and constructs you can dodge quite easily, and alchemists only appear with serious damage in merciless catacombs (not considering maps). so until you are very lategame you dont need to worry all that much about your chaos resistance, and then you can simply decide to spec ci or grind some chaos resist gear.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 01 2013 07:33 GMT
#4816
On February 01 2013 16:20 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:35 Southlight wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:01 heartlxp wrote:
i'm debating whether to go top for the 2x curse (i would do ele weak + flamability to1 shot mobs) or to get defensive and take 2x body/soul + shield passives, currently i'm grouping for everything in normal and barely take dmg, but i dunno if i need the def nodes for later


I don't know if you have the HP necessary to make body and soul etc. worth it... especially as I think later on your #1 issue is going to be chaos damage nukes.


damn is this why CI is so popular on witch? is it possible to grab like 2 +40 chaos resist rings or something?


CI not so popular anymore - it was popular before because it was something like max HP 1 and +80% ES, so it basically replaced your HP with ES. Handy, given that +ES nodes were more accessible than HP nodes, and obviously the chaos immunity. Uh, I'd say while a lot of people (myself included) were bummed it got changed, CI was almost necessary/guaranteed to be a part of 90% of caster builds, so it was probably overpowered. Just happened to be the overpowered skill every build used.

You can get chaos resist rings but I think it's why people put a premium on Amethyst flasks (gives 35% chaos resist during duration), and then other random stuff. Anyways, point was that I'm not sure b+s would make much of a difference because resist caps at 75%, so what'll kick in more is your max HP... although if you have high ES then B+S does give you that.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Dirkinity
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany409 Posts
February 01 2013 07:38 GMT
#4817
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
February 01 2013 07:44 GMT
#4818
On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE.

not possible, nothing is worse than d3. The cardboard box that d3 came in was better than d3
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 01 2013 08:02 GMT
#4819
Glull and Southlight, thanks for the info, i was thinking about body and soul for ES, but keep forgetting chaos goes through it....i guess i'll look around and see if i can hit some more life nodes.

i actually dont like the chaos dmg mechanic, i wish they just stuck w/ poison and made it another element. seems really hard to balance especially when witches all seem stack ES
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
February 01 2013 08:03 GMT
#4820
On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE.


that is great to hear - enjoy the game you like playing!
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