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On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^
How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either
Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R)
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Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R)
should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well.
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On January 31 2013 14:31 crms wrote:
Welp, finally did it! Solo'd Piety on HC, off to cruel!
I didn't want to read about the fight prior to spoil it but once I found out I could kill the portals and changed my flasks it was quite a bit easier. I almost died at one point to ICE piety, 20hp out of 1000hp. I was freaking out.
Good fight, will go better in the future lol and maybe I'll group it. ~_~
happy playing! cruel gogogo.
Damn congrats man!
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On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well.
My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0
On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name
Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure.
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2 questions
1) Do you know how sometimes normal items come with a purple property like +5% spell increase. And then when I upgrade it to a magic item it got +1 magic property. And then I added an augmentation to get it +1 property. If I use an orb of alteration on it, will it take away the +5% spell increase? Or just re-roll the 2 other properties that I added myself?
2) If I get a passive skill that says +5% increased elemental damage, does that work for spells like frozen pulse, firestorm, spark?
Thanks for all the help these past few days, I really appreciate it. Its my first time playing one of these type of games lol
Edited for second question! hope someone sees!
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On January 31 2013 17:52 Archers_bane wrote:
2 questions
1) Do you know how sometimes normal items come with a purple property like +5% spell increase. And then when I upgrade it to a magic item it got +1 magic property. And then I added an augmentation to get it +1 property. If I use an orb of alteration on it, will it take away the +5% spell increase? Or just re-roll the 2 other properties that I added myself?
2) If I get a passive skill that says +5% increased elemental damage, does that work for spells like frozen pulse, firestorm, spark?
Thanks for all the help these past few days, I really appreciate it. Its my first time playing one of these type of games lol
Implicit properties are not removed when you use an orb of alteration.
If it doesn't specify then it works on everything so yes.
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On January 31 2013 17:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well. My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0 Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure.
I was thinking about getting Vaal Pact to not have to worry too much. Cant use flasks but basically life leech is equal to life on hit with it. Might think about it because of high life(mana) costs. Only problem would be maps that deal damage over time.
What do you think about it?
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On January 31 2013 18:05 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 17:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well. My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0 On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking about getting Vaal Pact to not have to worry too much. Cant use flasks but basically life leech is equal to life on hit with it. Might think about it because of high life(mana) costs. Only problem would be maps that deal damage over time. What do you think about it?
I'm only using LoH with this because it hits 64 times or something retarded like that. Pwere calculated it earlier in the thread somewhere and I just copied his idea. I use life leech on my Elemental hit link. Vaal is something I'm gonna try out to see if I like it or not eventually. Still plowing through act 3 right now so ^_^
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I'm so jelly. I dont have chain nor fork nor elemental hit. My DPS with ice shot is just ~850 on level 52 T_T... fuck my life. I really need that 5L and those gems. I could use LMP though.
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On January 31 2013 18:05 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 17:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well. My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0 On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking about getting Vaal Pact to not have to worry too much. Cant use flasks but basically life leech is equal to life on hit with it. Might think about it because of high life(mana) costs. Only problem would be maps that deal damage over time. What do you think about it?
Lol, don't use Vaal Pact until you start dying to elemental reflect auras. Outside CI builds Vaal Pact is only useful for that.
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On January 31 2013 18:37 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 18:05 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 17:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well. My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0 On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking about getting Vaal Pact to not have to worry too much. Cant use flasks but basically life leech is equal to life on hit with it. Might think about it because of high life(mana) costs. Only problem would be maps that deal damage over time. What do you think about it? Lol, don't use Vaal Pact until you start dying to elemental reflect auras. Outside CI builds Vaal Pact is only useful for that.
Can you please explain to me how Vaal Pact works? Do you get instant 100% of the damage you do with a max life leech of 20% of your entire health (or energy shield if you have CI) from your spells/physical instead of just the 100% life leech with a max of 20% of your health/ES per second? Whats so good about that, or am I missing a big point?
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On January 31 2013 20:44 Archers_bane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 18:37 -Archangel- wrote:On January 31 2013 18:05 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 17:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On January 31 2013 17:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On January 31 2013 11:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.
I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.
Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^ How is Blood Magic a nightmare? Its a blessing to me. Don't own a 5L/6L yet but with either Lightning Arrow (G) + Chain (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) /// Ice Shot (G) + Fork (G) + Faster Attacks (G) + Elemental Hit (R) OR Weapon Elemental Damage (R) + Life Leech (R) should be sick DPS. Can replace fork with chain. Auras Wrath + Grace. Hatred sucks with BM, because a lot of life is reserved. Actually I was thinking about re-rolling a Templar for a elemental Bow build, because there are so many elemental damage nodes-_-; oh well. My Elemental hit didn't have a leveled life leech gem so I was killing myself (and I was using faster attacks for like .4 attack time) ^_^ My Lightning Arrow costs 107 life now though (LA+Chain+LMP+WED+LoH) so I have to pay attention. If it hits a few enemies it full heals me though so :0 On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name Just got my first map in the marketplace (area level 61). I think it is item level 60 to drop maps now, but I'm not entirely sure. I was thinking about getting Vaal Pact to not have to worry too much. Cant use flasks but basically life leech is equal to life on hit with it. Might think about it because of high life(mana) costs. Only problem would be maps that deal damage over time. What do you think about it? Lol, don't use Vaal Pact until you start dying to elemental reflect auras. Outside CI builds Vaal Pact is only useful for that. Can you please explain to me how Vaal Pact works? Do you get instant 100% of the damage you do with a max life leech of 20% of your entire health (or energy shield if you have CI) from your spells/physical instead of just the 100% life leech with a max of 20% of your health/ES per second? Whats so good about that, or am I missing a big point?
Vaal Pact = Life Leech applies instantly. So if you deal 10000 damage and got 2% LL, you'll instantly recover 200HP and not recover it over time. The reason I mentioned it is because of high - mana costs of my attacks (I got Blod Magic skilled) so I lose life and the flasks possibly cannot keep up. Vaal Pact would mean I recover more life than I spend with my attacks.
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Can anyone describe the best way to farm as a 1h+shield marauder tanky style?
RIght now Im using heavystrike/ground slam/molten/shield charge, and its fine when u got physical mobs hitting you since molten shield does awesome damage, but for example faciing tons of elemental groups i have no damage at all..
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Do i understand you correct that Molten Shield is like your main DPS? O_o.
Whiteout seeing your tree i would say get more Phys-DPS nodes or use some Elemental-Attack (Lightning Stirke, Glacial Hammer or Fire-Nocluehowitscalled and grab a bit of elemental dmg if you can't get anymore Phys-Dam? This seems to be mainly a Templar build but about half the Talents are spent in the Marauder "beginner" area so...?
Leaping Slam could also help a bit, i found leaping way better than Shieldcharge.
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Breaking the build crafting cycle to bring you news from GGG: Races are in the pipe! In the coming week they will present a schedule of events.
For all the players starting in open beta: Races are usually short period leveling events with bonuses. It works by GGG adding a new league you can choose to start a character in from about 30 minutes before the race begins! The races are mostly hardcore and most of them are 1-4 hours duration! Your main task is to reach as high a level as you can from level 1. There are usually also bonuses for killing all monsters in selected side-zones! It is very exciting to do as soon as you understand how to level efficiently! Some races are team efforts where strategies are a bit more varied, while solo is pure survival if you want to compete! Are you any kind of competitive short period races are what you want to play in untill pvp-tournaments are running.
Longer leagues are usually a week to a month and is still a leveling competition. Usually maps will be reached within a few days and the rest is about map management for the best players.
Prices have not been revealed yet, but expect it to be microtransaction money, currency items and special items to stand out from the rabble in towns!
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On January 31 2013 22:07 radiatoren wrote:
Breaking the build crafting cycle to bring you news from GGG: Races are in the pipe! In the coming week they will present a schedule of events.
For all the players starting in open beta: Races are usually short period leveling events with bonuses. It works by GGG adding a new league you can choose to start a character in from about 30 minutes before the race begins! The races are mostly hardcore and most of them are 1-4 hours duration! Your main task is to reach as high a level as you can from level 1. There are usually also bonuses for killing all monsters in selected side-zones! It is very exciting to do as soon as you understand how to level efficiently! Some races are team efforts where strategies are a bit more varied, while solo is pure survival if you want to compete! Are you any kind of competitive short period races are what you want to play in untill pvp-tournaments are running.
Longer leagues are usually a week to a month and is still a leveling competition. Usually maps will be reached within a few days and the rest is about map management for the best players.
Prices have not been revealed yet, but expect it to be microtransaction money, currency items and special items to stand out from the rabble in towns!
Really can't wait for races. I love the short 3~ hourish solo races.
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If a rare has 3 properties, and you use a chaos, will it also be 3?
Also, do spells have to be socketed on the weapons if the weapons have a critical spell chance %'s and/or global critical spell chance %?
P.S. I've posted so many questions in here, and get informative answer. TL best community ever 
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No, rerolling a magic/rare basically rolls a new one for that item/itemlevel. It can have 6 properties even if it had 4 before, and vice versa, but it keeps its sockets and implicit property.On January 31 2013 17:24 udgnim wrote:
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps
not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless
IGN: Witch_Summoner or you can PM me with your character name SC or HC?
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On January 31 2013 16:33 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 16:29 Ghin wrote:
Holy crap Cruel Vaal does a lot of damage. I got smooshed from 1850hp to 0 with one fire crush thing. I definitely wasn't expecting that. I'm at a loss trying to figure out how to even survive a hit from it. You don't. You dodge it :p Also Lightning Arrow LMP Chain is awesome. Highly recommended if you can afford it :0
It is, after you and Pwere's posts I went back to Ele Hit and LA, my killing power increased. I also had nice luck with alchs and got myself a temporary thicket until I buy a 5L one. Ele Hit is only lvl 10 or 11 right now (had to buy a new one) and I'm seeing the power now lol..
On January 31 2013 22:47 Archers_bane wrote:If a rare has 3 properties, and you use a chaos, will it also be 3? Also, do spells have to be socketed on the weapons if the weapons have a critical spell chance %'s and/or global critical spell chance %? P.S. I've posted so many questions in here, and get informative answer. TL best community ever
The mods reroll randomly, there could still be 3 mods, there could be 6.
If a weapon has an implicit mod of crit chance, it applies to attacks. If it is global then it should apply to spells regardless of where they are socketed since you don't need a weapon to use spells. Hope I was clear enough and right, if I said something wrong, feel free to correct it.
A lot of things in this game are either specific or general, if it is specific then it applies to what it specifically states. If it is general then it can apply to everything that could be modified, i.e. elemental damage with weapons vs elemental damage.
Also, where something is socketed doesn't matter.
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Fuck. I died to "Kole". I guess I shouldn't had faced him anyways he 2 hitted me. Was 6% from level 35.
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God, summoner so slow, finally beat Vaal Oversoul on normal ~_~
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