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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 31 2013 01:27 GMT
#4661
With those numbers, Ele Hit is still the strongest single target bow skill, even for a physical build. The DPS number won't represent this, but there is no way the 30% added fire damage from burning arrow can be worth 130-240 base damage. The only advantage Burning Arrow will have is that it will cost about half, but Ele Hit deals 10-60% more damage.

Using a spreadsheet for my CB Ranger, the elemental build would have:
+ Show Spoiler +
- 1760 dps with lvl 15 Burning Arrow, excluding chances to ignite (at best another 10% damage)
- 3007 dps with that lvl 15 Ele Hit
- ~1300 dps with new lvl 15 LA
- ~1800 dps with lvl 15 Ice Shot

My phys build would have:
+ Show Spoiler +
- 2405 dps with Burning Arrow
- 2761 dps with Ele Hit
- ~1600dps with LA
- ~2180dps with Ice Shot


I think that was level ~62, with 1.5 base speed bows and decent gear.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 31 2013 01:28 GMT
#4662
On January 31 2013 09:41 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 09:25 Killmouse wrote:
got a question is evasion=dodge ?

and does evasion also evade spells? or only physical


Nop evade and dodge is different. You cant evade spells but you can dodge spells if you take a passive node.

When you getting attack the game will roll first you evade chance and then you dodge chance and then block chance


ah thx

is it recommended to skill dodge as a ranger??
yo
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
January 31 2013 01:29 GMT
#4663
Does anybody who knows the game/economy better want to be by go-to for price checks? Don't really wanna clutter the thread. For example 16% quality double strike?
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
January 31 2013 01:38 GMT
#4664
Ok, you guys win ^^
I haven't learned all the calculations and stuff yet, need to get spreadsheets and things set up for myself.

Yeah Blitz, I know my bow is not good. It was good through cruel but in merci it sucks which is why i've started to look for a good base to invest in. I had a much better phys/aps bow in CB. Even with my slow bow I do almost 2aps on my single target.

Well, for AoE, what is best? And can you and Pwere guide me on what things for bow will work best with ele damage scaling and ele hit/AoE?
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
January 31 2013 01:57 GMT
#4665
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdEFhAW1BfkIiQuREC0ZtBn-GwEhdiLqJT8s6TB8MfoylDnUUUdW-l1oX-FrJG89b_J0QXb3d9d_An8rh0GNfo2_kyWVBZXpmvGbJqGkokCjiqTCpuCn1KvSr-u0GrTFt7a-p8EzxKLKj8qpytPNmNQj1orZxtpk2o3cFd0N3sbh2-LL6NbqYusU8EL0-Pqx_MX-yA==

How's this for a bow ranger. Asides from the large cluster of nodes very close to the start, there doesn't seem to be a hugely optimal route to grab as many bow nodes as possible. The remaining points would go into life/attack speed/movement speed/resist/evasion nodes. Also for the three Keystone Nodes, Point Blank, Arrow Dodging, and Acrobatics (and after acrobatics the spell dodge one as well): Does Point Blank basically add 50% to 0% on top of your regular damage? As in at range it doesn't actually lower your normal damage at all?

I screwed up my witch by missing an obvious path in the passive panel so I just don't want that to happen again lol
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 31 2013 02:00 GMT
#4666
I don't know what spreadsheets Pwere has, but I just enjoy theorycrafting and doing math and stuff. Half the fun of playing a game like this is trying to find out the optimal way to play your character.

I'm still trying to figure out what I'm using for AoE still. I haven't been able to pick up a chain to try out lightning arrow+LMP+Chain+LoH yet, but I will post my results when I do.

Right now I'm still using Lightning Arrow with fork, but I finally figured everything out last night after I decided to pick up blood magic. Don't get me started on that nightmare ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
January 31 2013 02:03 GMT
#4667
I got a deal for my chain, a guy wanted reduced mana so I gave him my level 11ish one for chain. I think LA is better but I'm unsure, it's skewed by my bow being high in lightning damage.

I also enjoy theorycrafting and the like, I have google docs with character plans but I haven't built spreadsheets yet.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:14:15
January 31 2013 02:04 GMT
#4668
On January 31 2013 10:57 AnotherRandom wrote:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdEFhAW1BfkIiQuREC0ZtBn-GwEhdiLqJT8s6TB8MfoylDnUUUdW-l1oX-FrJG89b_J0QXb3d9d_An8rh0GNfo2_kyWVBZXpmvGbJqGkokCjiqTCpuCn1KvSr-u0GrTFt7a-p8EzxKLKj8qpytPNmNQj1orZxtpk2o3cFd0N3sbh2-LL6NbqYusU8EL0-Pqx_MX-yA==

How's this for a bow ranger. Asides from the large cluster of nodes very close to the start, there doesn't seem to be a hugely optimal route to grab as many bow nodes as possible. The remaining points would go into life/attack speed/movement speed/resist/evasion nodes. Also for the three Keystone Nodes, Point Blank, Arrow Dodging, and Acrobatics (and after acrobatics the spell dodge one as well): Does Point Blank basically add 50% to 0% on top of your regular damage? As in at range it doesn't actually lower your normal damage at all?

I screwed up my witch by missing an obvious path in the passive panel so I just don't want that to happen again lol


You're going to get absolutely wrecked with that build. Just start completely over and think defensively instead of offensively. Your passive tree is mostly about picking up defensive nodes and keystones that define your build. Having zero life nodes is a ticket to disaster.

Point Blank does indeed decrease your long distance damage and I'm pretty sure it scales very poorly so you end up doing substantially less damage if you aren't utilizing it. If you intend to solo then the majority of your fighting will actually benefit from point blank though so it isn't something you should worry about.

Either dig back a few pages or just search through Pwere's posts in this topic and he has posted some Bow Ranger builds.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:21:46
January 31 2013 02:12 GMT
#4669
How much do glassblowers bauble / whetstones / armour scraps go for?

And can someone confirm that life leech with ghost reaver works for witch spells? People on global chat were telling me it doesn't, and I probably was getting trolled
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 02:37:13
January 31 2013 02:35 GMT
#4670
On January 31 2013 11:12 Archers_bane wrote:
How much do glassblowers bauble / whetstones / armour scraps go for?

And can someone confirm that life leech with ghost reaver works for witch spells? People on global chat were telling me it doesn't, and I probably was getting trolled


Unless it said so on ghost reaver you shouldnt think otherwise. Just attach a lifeleech support gem to a spell and it should be fine.

Also this is a free game + a lot of people that played d2 from what I remember were a bunch of theives and trolls so you will have a few of them here or a lot rather.. It seems poe's community is a lot more mature more so than most free games.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
January 31 2013 02:43 GMT
#4671
Btw...
Isnt for a elehit-bow ranger this funny lvl5 unique bow quillrain by far most insane weapon?
4-11 dmg
3.11 (!!!) ATS
+15 dex
50% increased projectile speed
50% less weapondmg (this should not apply to elehit)
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 31 2013 04:54 GMT
#4672
Ele hit deals weapon damage....
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 05:48:44
January 31 2013 05:31 GMT
#4673
Welp, finally did it! Solo'd Piety on HC, off to cruel!

I didn't want to read about the fight prior to spoil it but once I found out I could kill the portals and changed my flasks it was quite a bit easier. I almost died at one point to ICE piety, 20hp out of 1000hp. I was freaking out.

Good fight, will go better in the future lol and maybe I'll group it. ~_~

happy playing! cruel gogogo.
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 31 2013 05:55 GMT
#4674
On January 31 2013 14:31 crms wrote:
Welp, finally did it! Solo'd Piety on HC, off to cruel!

I didn't want to read about the fight prior to spoil it but once I found out I could kill the portals and changed my flasks it was quite a bit easier. I almost died at one point to ICE piety, 20hp out of 1000hp. I was freaking out.

Good fight, will go better in the future lol and maybe I'll group it. ~_~

happy playing! cruel gogogo.



Congrats, didnt know you could kill portals either. Nice
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 06:34:06
January 31 2013 06:25 GMT
#4675
How much armours scrap does it take to get to 20% of each normal/magic/rare item? Are they all just 1%?


And Vaal's Pact, does that mean 100% of the damage you do is instantly added to your life? Or will it still only be max 20% of your max life but rather per second the instance it hits? I dont really get the mechanism.
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 31 2013 07:07 GMT
#4676
On January 31 2013 15:25 Archers_bane wrote:
How much armours scrap does it take to get to 20% of each normal/magic/rare item? Are they all just 1%?


And Vaal's Pact, does that mean 100% of the damage you do is instantly added to your life? Or will it still only be max 20% of your max life but rather per second the instance it hits? I dont really get the mechanism.


5%/2%/1%
white/blue/yellow

Also just found a cheap chain so I'll be trying that out now with Lightning Arrow
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
January 31 2013 07:29 GMT
#4677
Holy crap Cruel Vaal does a lot of damage. I got smooshed from 1850hp to 0 with one fire crush thing. I definitely wasn't expecting that. I'm at a loss trying to figure out how to even survive a hit from it.
Legalize drugs and murder.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 07:34:05
January 31 2013 07:33 GMT
#4678
On January 31 2013 16:29 Ghin wrote:
Holy crap Cruel Vaal does a lot of damage. I got smooshed from 1850hp to 0 with one fire crush thing. I definitely wasn't expecting that. I'm at a loss trying to figure out how to even survive a hit from it.


You don't. You dodge it :p

Also Lightning Arrow LMP Chain is awesome. Highly recommended if you can afford it :0
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
January 31 2013 07:35 GMT
#4679
To anyone who has microtransaction effects: did they just add particle effects to the weapon ones? I don't remember ever seeing them, but now when I hit monsters little colors appear. Kind of cool if they just added them in.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 08:24:27
January 31 2013 08:24 GMT
#4680
if anyone is interested in grouping, I'll probably kill Merciless Vaal tomorrow, see how scary A3 Merciless is, and try to progress to A3 Docks and start farming there and hopefully start building up a pool of maps

not sure when maps start dropping, but I haven't seen any in A2 Merciless

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