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AM
Profile Joined September 2011
50 Posts
January 29 2013 22:44 GMT
#4521
You can support spells with life leech gem, I don't think there is any other way, maybe some unique item I haven't seen yet.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
January 29 2013 23:13 GMT
#4522
Can anyone fill me in on what they're referring to as the 'barter mechanic'? I've never seen that mentioned anywhere before and have been completely oblivious to what it is so far.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
January 29 2013 23:16 GMT
#4523
On January 30 2013 08:13 ain wrote:
Can anyone fill me in on what they're referring to as the 'barter mechanic'? I've never seen that mentioned anywhere before and have been completely oblivious to what it is so far.


There is no gold in the game. In place of gold, there's items that have uses (such as re-rolling a mod on an item, adding a mod to an item, changing the colours of the sockets, etc.) that people trade with instead.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 29 2013 23:17 GMT
#4524
On January 30 2013 08:13 ain wrote:
Can anyone fill me in on what they're referring to as the 'barter mechanic'? I've never seen that mentioned anywhere before and have been completely oblivious to what it is so far.


they mean the only way to trade or acquire items outside of farming yourself is to barter with players. You have to use trade chat, local chat etc., and actively participate in bartering. You make offers, they make offers, agreements need to be met and the items are traded. There is no central auction house or anything.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 29 2013 23:44 GMT
#4525
Does Ice Crit Witch with CI + Ghostreave need Vaal's pact? Or is the hex master and whispers of doom better? I'm really stuck on my build.

I want to be able to utilize Blood Rage AND Righteous Fire at the same time, since Chaos Inoculation basically gives you both for free.
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 29 2013 23:51 GMT
#4526
On January 30 2013 08:17 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 08:13 ain wrote:
Can anyone fill me in on what they're referring to as the 'barter mechanic'? I've never seen that mentioned anywhere before and have been completely oblivious to what it is so far.


they mean the only way to trade or acquire items outside of farming yourself is to barter with players. You have to use trade chat, local chat etc., and actively participate in bartering. You make offers, they make offers, agreements need to be met and the items are traded. There is no central auction house or anything.


Which is yet another reason this game is fucking awesome.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#4527
I really really hate how you are trading and you get DC'd, and then you lose the person you were talking to. Messed up 3-4 important deals already
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
January 29 2013 23:58 GMT
#4528
righteous fire still drops you to 1 hp (after burning your es) and blood rage does very little for a caster - so your plan doesnt exactly work out.

the only reason for you to get vaal pact is to survive elemental reflect mobs more comfortably - i personally dont like it though.
the skill is much more important for melee builds that cant really avoid getting hit.

hex master+whispers of doom on the other hand is extremely effective and versatile - enfeeble, temporal chains, frostbite, elemental weakness and critical weakness are all curses you benefit from greatly, and using two (or more) at the same time is crazy effective.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 30 2013 00:14 GMT
#4529
On January 30 2013 08:58 Glull wrote:
righteous fire still drops you to 1 hp (after burning your es) and blood rage does very little for a caster - so your plan doesnt exactly work out.

the only reason for you to get vaal pact is to survive elemental reflect mobs more comfortably - i personally dont like it though.
the skill is much more important for melee builds that cant really avoid getting hit.

hex master+whispers of doom on the other hand is extremely effective and versatile - enfeeble, temporal chains, frostbite, elemental weakness and critical weakness are all curses you benefit from greatly, and using two (or more) at the same time is crazy effective.



I forgot to mention I am going for the inner effect node (+30% effect of buff on you), so blood rage would give me 3 frenzy charges (15% cast speed) but with the +30% buff effect, would give me around 20% cast speed basically for free since I have CI and no life costs. Righteous fire with CI basically gives me free +spell % damage but no regen on my ES shield. So I would need to life steal it back with Ghost Reave. At last thats my train of thought right now.

Which build would be better for PvP? Curse or Vaal's Pact?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
AM
Profile Joined September 2011
50 Posts
January 30 2013 00:20 GMT
#4530
Inner force doesn't work on charges.
Also I wouldn't recommend taking CI unless you already have godly ES gear lying around. In its current form CI taken carelessly will leave you very fragile.
Same applies to Vaal Pact tbh, it is a lategame keystone.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 30 2013 00:22 GMT
#4531
Softcore trade

Decent evasion boots with CR, FR, IQ, and IR for 1 Chaos & 1 Alchemy

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soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 00:25:11
January 30 2013 00:24 GMT
#4532
yo, been playing as much as I can between school and what not.
game is definitely a fun time, hope it lasts for me tho

any tips for a lvl 20 duelist?

i think i have a decent build going so not to worried bout that.
more like :
what skills should i have?
what stats on gear should i go for? (if im going for the evasion = armor thing, does that mean evasion might as well = armor?)
im focusing on dual wielding atm
young ho
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 30 2013 00:27 GMT
#4533
No life, no movespeed, no 4L.. these boots really aren't worth much imo.

And I don't think trading in this thread is gonna do much good.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 00:36:10
January 30 2013 00:35 GMT
#4534
Downloaded today. Played for a while with Shadow, but will turn my full attention to it later. Seems like an evolution from Diablo 2, but do not know yet.
LiangHao
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 30 2013 01:05 GMT
#4535
On January 30 2013 09:20 AM wrote:
Inner force doesn't work on charges.
Also I wouldn't recommend taking CI unless you already have godly ES gear lying around. In its current form CI taken carelessly will leave you very fragile.
Same applies to Vaal Pact tbh, it is a lategame keystone.



Whoa, did not know Inner force didn't work for charges! Wtf...

Does it still work for righteous fire?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#4536
and im dead again... this time I dont even know how I died.. sigh.. im just not cut out for hc i guess
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 30 2013 01:15 GMT
#4537
On January 30 2013 09:27 Pwere wrote:
No life, no movespeed, no 4L.. these boots really aren't worth much imo.

And I don't think trading in this thread is gonna do much good.


it's what I traded in-game

just giving people an idea of the trades out there since values are highly variable
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AM
Profile Joined September 2011
50 Posts
January 30 2013 01:39 GMT
#4538
On January 30 2013 10:05 Archers_bane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 09:20 AM wrote:
Inner force doesn't work on charges.
Also I wouldn't recommend taking CI unless you already have godly ES gear lying around. In its current form CI taken carelessly will leave you very fragile.
Same applies to Vaal Pact tbh, it is a lategame keystone.



Whoa, did not know Inner force didn't work for charges! Wtf...

Does it still work for righteous fire?


Inner Force does work for rigteous fire but I believe you can't use it in combination with CI. I think there is a mistake in wiki.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 30 2013 01:41 GMT
#4539
On January 30 2013 10:39 AM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 10:05 Archers_bane wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:20 AM wrote:
Inner force doesn't work on charges.
Also I wouldn't recommend taking CI unless you already have godly ES gear lying around. In its current form CI taken carelessly will leave you very fragile.
Same applies to Vaal Pact tbh, it is a lategame keystone.



Whoa, did not know Inner force didn't work for charges! Wtf...

Does it still work for righteous fire?


Inner Force does work for rigteous fire but I believe you can't use it in combination with CI. I think there is a mistake in wiki.



Oh wow, so my whole build is completely ruined! hahaha, back to the drawing board

How do you know Righteous doesn't work with CI?
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
AM
Profile Joined September 2011
50 Posts
January 30 2013 01:51 GMT
#4540
Well, I don't exactly know since I never checked myself, however when in doubt it is safe to trust the skill description. I have never heard of anybody running this setup and it is just common sense that if it worked then this combo would be just too ridiculous :p.
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