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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 06:47:42
January 30 2013 06:40 GMT
#4561
On January 30 2013 15:31 Archers_bane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 14:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 30 2013 14:13 Archers_bane wrote:
How does a regal orb work? If my magic item has +20% all elemental resistance and +30 mana, and I upgrade it to rare with regal, will it keep the +20% all resistance and +30 mana with other added properties due to rare upgrade or will it give me a new numbers for that property?

Also do minion lifes and minion damages support gems stack?


Yes they rollover.

Life and damage will stack, but you can't use two of the same gem.



So whats the point of upgrading from magic to rare with regal? What bonuses will it add to the item if they rollover


A rare can have 4-6 properties. A magic item can only have 2. Guaranteed at least 2 additional properties rolled on it when you use a regal orb. When you craft with a regal orb you generally start with a white item (with max links) and use four quality items on it so that it is 20%. Then you use transmutes/augmentation/alteration until you get two affixes that you want. After that you'd regal it and hope it rolls additional properties that you want. If you're really rich you might scour it and try again too if it doesn't roll what you want ^_^

This is a really expensive crafting method that you use once you're rich and are hunting for not only a good item, but perfect rolls on said item.


and does anyone know what Elemental Hit is trading for?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
January 30 2013 06:49 GMT
#4562
I just sold one for 1 GCP 1 Chaos, but that was more of a steal for me than anything else. It isn't very good anymore, I gave it until being lvl 15 to work well but Ice Shot out performed it always.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
k0pf
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 06:51:47
January 30 2013 06:49 GMT
#4563

I dont know Why ppl are so upset that its hard to find good gearbeitet. Thats the fun in an arpg...

And craftig issnt like in other games. Its the Same like farm the items : you need luck. IT only takes one Aspekte of an item to reroll it not all three (mods, Sockets, base values).

I rly like the System as it is coz it makes me wanna farm :-D
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 30 2013 07:00 GMT
#4564
On January 30 2013 15:49 Tennet wrote:
I just sold one for 1 GCP 1 Chaos, but that was more of a steal for me than anything else. It isn't very good anymore, I gave it until being lvl 15 to work well but Ice Shot out performed it always.


Don't see how ice shot can outperform elemental hit just from the numbers unless you have an absolutely absurd bow.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 30 2013 07:11 GMT
#4565
On January 30 2013 15:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 15:31 Archers_bane wrote:
On January 30 2013 14:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 30 2013 14:13 Archers_bane wrote:
How does a regal orb work? If my magic item has +20% all elemental resistance and +30 mana, and I upgrade it to rare with regal, will it keep the +20% all resistance and +30 mana with other added properties due to rare upgrade or will it give me a new numbers for that property?

Also do minion lifes and minion damages support gems stack?


Yes they rollover.

Life and damage will stack, but you can't use two of the same gem.



So whats the point of upgrading from magic to rare with regal? What bonuses will it add to the item if they rollover


A rare can have 4-6 properties. A magic item can only have 2. Guaranteed at least 2 additional properties rolled on it when you use a regal orb. When you craft with a regal orb you generally start with a white item (with max links) and use four quality items on it so that it is 20%. Then you use transmutes/augmentation/alteration until you get two affixes that you want. After that you'd regal it and hope it rolls additional properties that you want. If you're really rich you might scour it and try again too if it doesn't roll what you want ^_^

This is a really expensive crafting method that you use once you're rich and are hunting for not only a good item, but perfect rolls on said item.


and does anyone know what Elemental Hit is trading for?

Actually, Regal adds only +1 ability. You get a rare with 3 mods. The advantage is you can roll mods on item with Alts until you get perfect ones, much easier to do this then with Chaos :D
Then you use Regal and then Exalted. Another more common way to do this is for maps, roll with Alts until you get two best mods for maps and then Regal it.
k0pf
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany180 Posts
January 30 2013 07:30 GMT
#4566
On January 30 2013 16:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 15:49 Tennet wrote:
I just sold one for 1 GCP 1 Chaos, but that was more of a steal for me than anything else. It isn't very good anymore, I gave it until being lvl 15 to work well but Ice Shot out performed it always.


Don't see how ice shot can outperform elemental hit just from the numbers unless you have an absolutely absurd bow.


You have to consider the Bonus on phisical dmg ice shot gets with levels.
On the other hand i think burnig arrow is rly nice. Its dmg is rly good and scales well. Plus the costs are low. I run an ice shot burnig arrow ele ranger atm.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 30 2013 07:46 GMT
#4567
On January 30 2013 16:30 k0pf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 16:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 30 2013 15:49 Tennet wrote:
I just sold one for 1 GCP 1 Chaos, but that was more of a steal for me than anything else. It isn't very good anymore, I gave it until being lvl 15 to work well but Ice Shot out performed it always.


Don't see how ice shot can outperform elemental hit just from the numbers unless you have an absolutely absurd bow.


You have to consider the Bonus on phisical dmg ice shot gets with levels.
On the other hand i think burnig arrow is rly nice. Its dmg is rly good and scales well. Plus the costs are low. I run an ice shot burnig arrow ele ranger atm.


Yeah, but that bonus on physical damage has to be more than what the elemental hits for...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
January 30 2013 07:46 GMT
#4568
At what point does the game really "pick up"

Levels 1-6 have been really slow so far.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 30 2013 07:51 GMT
#4569
Honestly depends on your build. My witch is level 26 and it's actually even slower, because I'm running a really late-game build without any of the skill gems I need. But I knew this going in.
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 30 2013 07:53 GMT
#4570
On January 30 2013 16:46 smOOthMayDie wrote:
At what point does the game really "pick up"

Levels 1-6 have been really slow so far.


usually A1 Cruel because it's easier than A3 Normal and you've accrued enough SP to start getting a feel for your build

so Lvl 30-35
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
January 30 2013 08:02 GMT
#4571
How is everyone doing in HC ?
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vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
January 30 2013 08:03 GMT
#4572
What should I expect to pay for a reduced mana gem? I have no idea what anything is worth really but I am starting to accumulate a good number of orbs and dont wanna get ripped off.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 08:08:45
January 30 2013 08:06 GMT
#4573
On January 30 2013 17:03 vol_ wrote:
What should I expect to pay for a reduced mana gem? I have no idea what anything is worth really but I am starting to accumulate a good number of orbs and dont wanna get ripped off.


Reduced mana is going for ~1 GCP (expect to pay a bit over that) on default. A lot of people are trying to sell them for double or triple that because so many people need them though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 30 2013 08:07 GMT
#4574
I'm too afeared to trade for a Spell Totem gem for essentially the same reason, hahah. Also new ladder inflation. Gueh.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1286 Posts
January 30 2013 08:08 GMT
#4575
On January 30 2013 10:41 Archers_bane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 10:39 AM wrote:
On January 30 2013 10:05 Archers_bane wrote:
On January 30 2013 09:20 AM wrote:
Inner force doesn't work on charges.
Also I wouldn't recommend taking CI unless you already have godly ES gear lying around. In its current form CI taken carelessly will leave you very fragile.
Same applies to Vaal Pact tbh, it is a lategame keystone.



Whoa, did not know Inner force didn't work for charges! Wtf...

Does it still work for righteous fire?


Inner Force does work for rigteous fire but I believe you can't use it in combination with CI. I think there is a mistake in wiki.



Oh wow, so my whole build is completely ruined! hahaha, back to the drawing board

How do you know Righteous doesn't work with CI?


RF stops when you are at 1 hp(irrespective of how much ES you have), so righteious fire stops instantly when you have CI.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-30 08:22:33
January 30 2013 08:19 GMT
#4576
On January 30 2013 17:03 vol_ wrote:
What should I expect to pay for a reduced mana gem? I have no idea what anything is worth really but I am starting to accumulate a good number of orbs and dont wanna get ripped off.


Definitely not this much http://imgur.com/bpCRjQ5 ;D.

On January 30 2013 17:02 Benjamin99 wrote:
How is everyone doing in HC ?


Currently on my second character which is copying this Invalesco build http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/70118. Only in act 2 normal at the moment because most of my playtime on it has been fishing through trade chat since the build is pretty particular about skill gems and gear :s .
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
January 30 2013 08:31 GMT
#4577
On January 30 2013 17:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 17:03 vol_ wrote:
What should I expect to pay for a reduced mana gem? I have no idea what anything is worth really but I am starting to accumulate a good number of orbs and dont wanna get ripped off.


Reduced mana is going for ~1 GCP (expect to pay a bit over that) on default. A lot of people are trying to sell them for double or triple that because so many people need them though.

ok thanks!
On January 30 2013 17:19 RuskiPanda wrote:
Definitely not this much http://imgur.com/bpCRjQ5 ;D.

lol!
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10881 Posts
January 30 2013 08:43 GMT
#4578
On January 30 2013 16:53 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 16:46 smOOthMayDie wrote:
At what point does the game really "pick up"

Levels 1-6 have been really slow so far.


usually A1 Cruel because it's easier than A3 Normal and you've accrued enough SP to start getting a feel for your build

so Lvl 30-35


This i find a little "strange".
Ive got 2 Templars.

One has Summons + a bit of Lightning Stirke/elemental DMG.
One is "classic" LS/Shield Tank/DPS.


The guy with the Summons was WAY weaker during "normal" but for some reason is doing better in Cruel (as long as there is not too much elemental dmg, because summons are a joke against anything that does elemental dmg)... My LS/Shield guy that actually needs to Tank got his ass handed to him in the fertid pools -.-, "side missions are harder in cruel/merciless"... Yeah, if you have to tank they are, else you don't even notice it....
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 30 2013 08:46 GMT
#4579
Well summons get much stronger mid-late... they're pretty ass early-on. Early being... normal.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10881 Posts
January 30 2013 10:20 GMT
#4580
I wonder.. How exactly do they get stronger?

Is the scaling of the games that extrem towards later levels?
Are the Uniques with bonusses to Summons that strong?

Btw: My Summons from Act 3 on were very good and still are, they tanked cruel Brutus whiteout a problem.. I think i lost 2 of my 5 Zombies (and i am missing ~4-5 life nodes for them). But one of these "normal" Fire-Goatmen before Brutus? 1 shot, dead Zombie... Feels just stupid to be honest ^^.
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