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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 17:51:20
August 14 2021 17:10 GMT
#33241
personally, after playing HC trade, any amount of SC population feels huge.

I remember trying to hunt specific fractured affixs in Synthesis League (56+ int). It took me weeks, and I failed the 50/50 for (Arcane surge on hit / Int %) Synthesis implicit like 3 times. That was true trading hell.

One thing I feel that could be hard to obtain with less SC population is specific helm enchants on uniques


On August 14 2021 18:28 FaCE_1 wrote:
Hoping to get to the end game... but i duno. starting with eye of winter something, will see how it goes.

I recommend Hydrosphere + Sniper's Mark + chains, if you're using Eye of Winter. Not sure if you played when they came out / got reworked, but it adds a bunch of single target
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
August 14 2021 23:23 GMT
#33242
On August 15 2021 01:32 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2021 17:22 Miragee wrote:
On August 14 2021 14:41 FaCE_1 wrote:
alright, after behing stuck in the UK for 2 months, I can finally start the season !

first time in a while I start that late... hopyfully it won't be to hard to do :|


I mean it depends on what your goals are. I started Heist a month late after a break and it was fine. But I had no goals so everything I achieved felt good. Trade in Expedition is kind of scuffed. Not as many people and some things are scarce (lvl1 Enlighten is 1.5 ex atm. for example....).

There is another reason for this. The demand of Enlighten lvl 1 gems is SO much higher than last league. Last league, Enlighten/Empower/Enhance were able to drop at lvl 2 and even 3. This league however people have to level it all the way from 1 to 3. And I bet a lot of people are trying to make bank leveling 6+ Enlightens for a chance of hitting a level 4 gem or just selling at 3.

I can't complain about trade being hard yet, maybe some of the tough to find GG rare items aren't available or more expensive though.


In the beginning I thought it was because of the mana changes but this makes sense, too. Also explains why there is not that much of a difference between lvl 1, 2 and 3 enlighten... And yes, I don't think it's actually hard. Just somewhat less supply/selection compared to the last leagues.

On August 14 2021 07:42 EchelonTee wrote:


Just realised this wasn't the podcast you linked lmao, that was good.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 14 2021 23:50 GMT
#33243
On August 15 2021 02:10 EchelonTee wrote:
personally, after playing HC trade, any amount of SC population feels huge.

I remember trying to hunt specific fractured affixs in Synthesis League (56+ int). It took me weeks, and I failed the 50/50 for (Arcane surge on hit / Int %) Synthesis implicit like 3 times. That was true trading hell.

One thing I feel that could be hard to obtain with less SC population is specific helm enchants on uniques


Show nested quote +
On August 14 2021 18:28 FaCE_1 wrote:
Hoping to get to the end game... but i duno. starting with eye of winter something, will see how it goes.

I recommend Hydrosphere + Sniper's Mark + chains, if you're using Eye of Winter. Not sure if you played when they came out / got reworked, but it adds a bunch of single target

Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.

I may got for the slinger way to do it but not sure yet... still only lvl 35
n_n
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 15 2021 15:26 GMT
#33244
I'm playing deadeye selfcast eye of winter. Not very good, a lot of it because I suck at gearing casters and that I dont like Unleash.

I started EO/MoM and damage sucked, went crit + auras and doubled the damage. Definately not the best choice as deadeye, but the free chain is very nice since im slow and playing ssf.

Of the builds I've seen, the assassin CoC one seems the best.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 15 2021 16:13 GMT
#33245
i'm looking into eeither occulist or elementalist cause i want explosion (either occulist passive or impulsa for elementalist) and base my dps on crit, maybe power charge

will see how it goes

n_n
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 15 2021 16:37 GMT
#33246
herald of ice explosion is good enough for clear imo.

I think you should go occultist if you're a witch. Power charges, badge of the brotherhood is such a nice base for big dips.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 15 2021 16:44 GMT
#33247
yeah but badge is like 1.5 ex, i currently have 5 chaos :D
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
August 16 2021 18:31 GMT
#33248
I have to say my starter (Dagger Poison Crit Cobra Lash) was suboptimal...Or still is for that matter. The damage is ok but not much more. Plague Bearer and Vaal Blight help immensely with bosses and tougher rares. All in all mapping feels quite slow though and even though I'm not dying that often I feel more squishy than I would like to. It's my first time playing Assassin and the defenses are so weak on top of the limited access to life nodes...
Seeing how squishy this character feels, the damage is kind of underwhelming. Although it might be a gearing issue as well. I haven't had that much time to play so I'm fairly low on currency and only started to push into red maps over the weekend. Currently, I'm trying to figure out my gear to get enough str and int to wear Zerphis Heart. I got one yesterday with Whisper of Doom annointed so that should give me a good offensive and defensive boost (can run enfeeble then). Then I need to figure out how to get ailment immunity since I only realise yesterday they nerfed the Elegant Form cluster jewel node, which I had planned to use for the remaining 30%...

Since this char is not going to be fun to do any bosses, are you guys having any suggestions? I'm kind of lost as to what I want to play next...
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-17 12:33:17
August 17 2021 08:26 GMT
#33249
I started this league with Caustic Arrow (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077932). Originally I was following this Bladefall/Blade Blast guide (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3063150/) which leveled using Caustic Arrow and switched into the combo at ~level 38, but I liked CA and never switched out. Once I bought a cheap 6L bow with +2 to level of bow gems and a level 21 CA gem, monster packs and bosses in maps were melting. I played till character level 90 and tier 11 red maps, and it felt fine to run those maps.
Due to following a different guide to start out with, I played a Shadow ascendency, Trickster, instead of the usual Raider. Trickster is ok too, he has massive health and mana recovery as long as he's killing packs.

For HC I played Spectral Helix. I'll add a caveat that I'm a bit of a casual, and before jumping into this league my last league was 3.0 years ago. I also never got far into hardcore until this league. This time I copied a top build from poe.ninja (SSFHC ladder, Spectral Helix) and got to level 75 in SSFHC and finished the campaign, which is a personal accomplishment for me.

The meta build would be Spectral Shield Throw, Gladiator (https://poe.ninja/challengehcssf/builds). I tried leveling it in softcore, and I can see why it is the most popular choice. You have the max block, 75/75% block/spell block of Gladiator with a high armor shield, but you're not melee. The skill lets you be ranged, and you have enough damage with bleed.

Lastly, a non-fad of the month melee build would be Dominating Blow. I haven't tried it myself, but saw Haasts from the thread above playing it, and from looking at a guide, it seems like it has good damage against bosses with the summoned minions from Dominating Blow.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-17 16:58:34
August 17 2021 16:52 GMT
#33250
On August 17 2021 03:31 Miragee wrote:
I have to say my starter (Dagger Poison Crit Cobra Lash) was suboptimal...Or still is for that matter. The damage is ok but not much more. Plague Bearer and Vaal Blight help immensely with bosses and tougher rares. All in all mapping feels quite slow though and even though I'm not dying that often I feel more squishy than I would like to. It's my first time playing Assassin and the defenses are so weak on top of the limited access to life nodes...
Seeing how squishy this character feels, the damage is kind of underwhelming. Although it might be a gearing issue as well. I haven't had that much time to play so I'm fairly low on currency and only started to push into red maps over the weekend. Currently, I'm trying to figure out my gear to get enough str and int to wear Zerphis Heart. I got one yesterday with Whisper of Doom annointed so that should give me a good offensive and defensive boost (can run enfeeble then). Then I need to figure out how to get ailment immunity since I only realise yesterday they nerfed the Elegant Form cluster jewel node, which I had planned to use for the remaining 30%...

Since this char is not going to be fun to do any bosses, are you guys having any suggestions? I'm kind of lost as to what I want to play next...

Can you convert into Spectral Helix poison maybe? I read that one is actually good.

If you want another build, the shield skills are obviously good for all kind of things (bleed, cold conversion crit, poison etc). Forbidden Rite totems is really good but also has some mad expensive chase items that make it much better. Spectre builds are still good, Summon Reaper bleed builds are good (might have to use Occultist if you want it to be cheap while having good clear), Eye of Winter is said to be pretty good if used correctly, might be fun for you if enjoy Frozen Orb from D2. Any kind of trapper will do as well honestly, but that's not everyones style.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 17 2021 20:10 GMT
#33251
well, finally got to map and eye of winter is pretty cool so far (lvl~74). Decided to go the low-life version and it fell good.

Also, those logbook map are nice.
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-17 21:46:32
August 17 2021 21:45 GMT
#33252
On August 18 2021 01:52 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2021 03:31 Miragee wrote:
I have to say my starter (Dagger Poison Crit Cobra Lash) was suboptimal...Or still is for that matter. The damage is ok but not much more. Plague Bearer and Vaal Blight help immensely with bosses and tougher rares. All in all mapping feels quite slow though and even though I'm not dying that often I feel more squishy than I would like to. It's my first time playing Assassin and the defenses are so weak on top of the limited access to life nodes...
Seeing how squishy this character feels, the damage is kind of underwhelming. Although it might be a gearing issue as well. I haven't had that much time to play so I'm fairly low on currency and only started to push into red maps over the weekend. Currently, I'm trying to figure out my gear to get enough str and int to wear Zerphis Heart. I got one yesterday with Whisper of Doom annointed so that should give me a good offensive and defensive boost (can run enfeeble then). Then I need to figure out how to get ailment immunity since I only realise yesterday they nerfed the Elegant Form cluster jewel node, which I had planned to use for the remaining 30%...

Since this char is not going to be fun to do any bosses, are you guys having any suggestions? I'm kind of lost as to what I want to play next...

Can you convert into Spectral Helix poison maybe? I read that one is actually good.

If you want another build, the shield skills are obviously good for all kind of things (bleed, cold conversion crit, poison etc). Forbidden Rite totems is really good but also has some mad expensive chase items that make it much better. Spectre builds are still good, Summon Reaper bleed builds are good (might have to use Occultist if you want it to be cheap while having good clear), Eye of Winter is said to be pretty good if used correctly, might be fun for you if enjoy Frozen Orb from D2. Any kind of trapper will do as well honestly, but that's not everyones style.


Thanks for the suggestions! I don't really want to convert. I managed to figure out my gear and with Zerphis my clear is absolutely fine in T16s now. Boss damage still kind of sucks but I'm releveling my plague bearer which is part of the problem. Also my mana sucks vs bosses, when Cwdt takes hefty chunks (enfeeble costs 40...) However, I still feel too squishy. Only 4,8k Life and 400 ES, Acro/PhaseAcro/Winddancer, Cwdt with IC/Enfeeble, Fortify with Dread Banner, Blood & Sand and the defensive stuff from assassin. As I said, I don't die that often. As long as I don't get one-shot I'm fine. But dangerous mods+sirus/beyond mobs, conquerers, logbooks etc. will just one-shot me more often than I enjoy...

Long story short, I want something more tanky with good boss damage. I don't really need clear. I'm fine with running maps on one char and log to a different one for conquerers etc. I wanted to play Eye of Winter (Frozen Orb is one of my favourite skills from D2) but atm. I don't feel like playing another chain build. Maybe Spectre as I have never played a summoner before or Forbidden Right. That one would probably be fun on a champion with Kaoms and Replica Forbidden Shako for maximum tankiness but that's definitely outside of my budget (this league anyways).

On another note: My frames have been getting worse and worse this league. My game is usually quite fluid and rarely drops below 30 fps even with delirium and shit. This was still the case at the start of the league. But now I often have multi second freezes when mobs spawn during expedition encounters, beyond, breach, conquerer spawns etc. It's super annoying. :/

On August 18 2021 05:10 FaCE_1 wrote:
well, finally got to map and eye of winter is pretty cool so far (lvl~74). Decided to go the low-life version and it fell good.

Also, those logbook map are nice.


Nice, what setup are you running right now? Also yes, Logbooks are great. I just don't get enough of them. :>
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 17 2021 22:38 GMT
#33253
that's my pob: https://pastebin.com/MQxW1MHi

trying to fallow 2-3 build taht i saw on poe ninja
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
August 18 2021 13:30 GMT
#33254
On August 18 2021 07:38 FaCE_1 wrote:
that's my pob: https://pastebin.com/MQxW1MHi

trying to fallow 2-3 build taht i saw on poe ninja


Thank you, looks interesting! I got a few questions though:

1. Why are you running power charge on crit. Is your acendency not enough to sustain power charges atm.?
2. Why do you traveling along the outside, right of the cold clusters? Is there something else you are planning to take?
3. You didn't allocate Pain Attunement yet. Is that by mistake because that should give you a massive damage boost.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-18 16:28:37
August 18 2021 16:28 GMT
#33255
Eye of Winter can do nutty DPS, I present you a T15 Hunter kill by UberDan on Hardcore Expedition:



Now, do not expect to get that much damage without MASSIVE investment, even with a less tanky build. UberDan is just simply crazy in how much he minmaxes his characters... https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/PoEDan79/characters for the profile.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 18 2021 17:07 GMT
#33256
I am doing a hollow palm ice crash Raider , is beginning to do good damage. And still have couple of upgrades that will give some major buff in damage.
GO OG
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8620 Posts
August 18 2021 18:27 GMT
#33257
On August 19 2021 01:28 HolydaKing wrote:
Eye of Winter can do nutty DPS, I present you a T15 Hunter kill by UberDan on Hardcore Expedition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPob9lZF28s

Now, do not expect to get that much damage without MASSIVE investment, even with a less tanky build. UberDan is just simply crazy in how much he minmaxes his characters... https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/PoEDan79/characters for the profile.


That's nuts. Also explains one of my questions (PCoC, haven't read that one in ages).
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
August 18 2021 21:08 GMT
#33258
On August 18 2021 22:30 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2021 07:38 FaCE_1 wrote:
that's my pob: https://pastebin.com/MQxW1MHi

trying to fallow 2-3 build taht i saw on poe ninja


Thank you, looks interesting! I got a few questions though:

1. Why are you running power charge on crit. Is your acendency not enough to sustain power charges atm.?
2. Why do you traveling along the outside, right of the cold clusters? Is there something else you are planning to take?
3. You didn't allocate Pain Attunement yet. Is that by mistake because that should give you a massive damage boost.

1. i didnt try without it but it ramp up quiclky with it. mayb ei'll try to remove it and see how it does
2. dam you're right, I don'y need to do all this !
3. yeah, mistake, I waited to put it until I was low life but forgot to actually put it
n_n
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-19 12:46:34
August 19 2021 12:44 GMT
#33259
On August 19 2021 03:27 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2021 01:28 HolydaKing wrote:
Eye of Winter can do nutty DPS, I present you a T15 Hunter kill by UberDan on Hardcore Expedition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPob9lZF28s

Now, do not expect to get that much damage without MASSIVE investment, even with a less tanky build. UberDan is just simply crazy in how much he minmaxes his characters... https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/PoEDan79/characters for the profile.


That's nuts. Also explains one of my questions (PCoC, haven't read that one in ages).

Also if you're still looking for a build idea, Rage Vortex is insane as well. There are so many new builds that are good tbh, even though some old ones don't work well anymore I don't think build diversity is bad at all atm.

https://poe.ninja/streamers/builds/char/Quantrik/QuantrikVortex?type=streamers&i=1&search=name=quantrik
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
August 20 2021 08:52 GMT
#33260
Looked at poe ninja. I like this Shield Crush AS build. Thinking about saving up for it.
GO OG
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