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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 11 2020 16:05 GMT
#31721
Anyone gonna be playing HC trade?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 17:56:16
March 11 2020 17:46 GMT
#31722
SC trade babyyyyyyyy

my internet bad

I think I'm going to YOLO and league start Kinetic Bolt + spell slinger. Thinking Elementalist with golems, heralds, hybrid build leeching life and ES. Inquisitor should be pretty good too but then mana reservation is slightly bigger issue. Also, going crit feels a bit annoying, because most nodes are either spell crit or attack crit, but not both.

Not sure what spell to use... I'm thinking Ball Lightning or Wave of Conviction

Is casual Blade Blast in any spell build good for the free Unverve?
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 11 2020 18:56 GMT
#31723
Spellslinger Ball Lightning sounds like a surefire way to cause some proper eyecancer. Why not magma orb while you're at it? =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
March 11 2020 18:56 GMT
#31724
You can take new cluster jewel to make curse or warcry unnerve
GO OG
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 11 2020 19:04 GMT
#31725
On March 12 2020 03:56 r.Evo wrote:
Spellslinger Ball Lightning sounds like a surefire way to cause some proper eyecancer. Why not magma orb while you're at it? =P

Spellslinger is .5s cd and only gains CDR as it levels, not a lower base cool down. I don't think you'll ever get it to eye cancer levels the way CoC can be. Compare to CwC builds.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 19:28:05
March 11 2020 19:12 GMT
#31726
I'm sure we'll see new highs of eye cancer builds with it. You can have multiple different spells with it, imagine something like Kinetic Bolt CoC Ball Lightning + Spellslinger Magma Orb + Spellslinger Spark and two spells from Poet's Pen on top. Of course it sounds like a terrible idea (the listed spell combo & you don't have that much gem spot) but I'm sure someone will try something even worse and post it just for the reddit karma.

I'd be surprised if Spellslinger really just gives spells linked to it 15% mana reservation or if it's already nerfed at the 20/20 reveal. Because unless I'm wrong you could (in theory; although gloves/helmets with extra links exist) have like two 6L spells with Spellslinger that way (but no auras then ofc; also it depends on the gems and might requires a couple aura nodes).
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 11 2020 19:45 GMT
#31727
Well, spellslinger requires a wand which precludes a second six link.

Depending on supports, a 6L spellslinger setup consisting of skill, spellslinger, and 4 reasonable damage supports looks like it will run you between 40-65% mana.

Considering this puts you on a virtual 5L with a cool down of 500ms, and takes your only 6L (excluding "supported by" gloves/hats), I don't think it's so insane for DPS abilities. It's more along the lines of convenient and reliable triggering of various combo or utility skills. Somewhat similar to "trigger a socketed skill" veiled/crafted mods.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 20:04:43
March 11 2020 19:58 GMT
#31728
On March 11 2020 22:39 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 22:24 disformation wrote:
agree. cold iron point could get pretty expensive this league.
it is very good with AW and if blade blast is really good and physical as well I could see ppl go EK + Blade Blast or BV + Blade Blast.

current ideas:
a) stormbind mana hierpants. will probably suck in a league where you want to go fast to keep up with the fog. but dont let your memes be dreams.
more seriously: i kinda like channelling stuff and the cluster stuff for channel looks good. maybe ill try another channelling skill. not sure which one though.
b) bane occultist (with ed for single target boost). prolly super solid. profane bloom works against delirium stuff cause it doesn't need corpses. bit nervous since delirium difficulty will scale monster defenses though.
c) RF chieftain. i like tanky stuff i like lazy stuff. very sick notables. again: bit worried about the damage against later delirium stuff.
d) minion instability necro. they didnt nerf skellingtons HP.
e) maybe totems or ballista stuff? not entirely sure. played divine ire totems in Blight and that was pretty cool. But kinda not feeling totems. maybe ill look into ballista stuff, haven't tried that, since it seemed fairly mediocre last league. not sure if the buffs are good enough though.

i'll leave the wand stuff to other ppl, dont like attacking builds (as you probably have guessed by now). Maybe ill copy some popular build if spellslinger turns out hilarious.

I have a ballista build from last league which I was thinking about trying again, however after thinking about it more I remembered how garbage the placement of ballistas is. The placement speed is great, however you have to place them at your feet which really sucks in some maps.

oooh. right. yeah, there was that thing. pass.

playing around with PoB a bit. for MI purposes SRS seem to be better than skellies. unfortunately SRS MI really wants a tavukai... which is a Legion League specific unique. so i am going to bench that approach too.

Edit: since this is a zoom zoom league, why not link lightning warp, flame dash and frostblink to your spell slinger. So you can go ultra fast
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 20:58:56
March 11 2020 20:58 GMT
#31729
I need to PoB numbers but I was planning on doing a psuedo 5L shaper helm (hypothermia or innervate), just for the extra dps. Because the Wand DPS is added to the spell's damage, it should be respectable damage. Or could do stuff like Wave of Conviction + Ice Bite + PCoC + Energy Shield Leech. Wave of Conviction curse on hit would be neat too, if it can work

Lightning warp is probably optimal for clear speed but I'd wait until I have enough damage to keep up

In any case there's a lot of flexibility so it should be fun. Worst case scenario I have an ele wander which is a perfectly fine build
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 11 2020 22:45 GMT
#31730
100% starting with coc ice nova. I'll be life based (yuck) for about 2 days I think.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 11 2020 22:59 GMT
#31731
I think spellslinger lightning warp was part of one of the demos, it did look like it had potential for some speed. I do think the most "common" (i.e. decent even if not silly/OP) uses for it will be things like Wave of Conviction and curse on hit and other things that debuff or provide utility, rather than just damage. But it will still be fun to play with sillier things, especially leveling and in early maps. I'm looking for it mostly to supplement single target damage since the clear with Kinetic Bolt looks fine as it is, and more rare/boss dmg means one button pepega gameplay.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28089 Posts
March 11 2020 23:27 GMT
#31732
On March 12 2020 01:05 Alur wrote:
Anyone gonna be playing HC trade?

Maybe if this league isn't as rippy as the last one. Starting with a SC private league though.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 23:30:07
March 11 2020 23:29 GMT
#31733
Every league is more rippy than the past, it's beyond stupid what's happened to hc. Just wait for an intervention under delirium effect, should be good.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28089 Posts
March 11 2020 23:34 GMT
#31734
I'm still tilted over some HC deaths from last league. Metamorph was insanely fun in SC, but in HC it was super fucking scary
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 12 2020 00:38 GMT
#31735
spellslinger is 20% mana now fuck
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 01:28:23
March 12 2020 01:19 GMT
#31736
So. Stormbind is pretty big damage as expected.

Archmage seems fairly busted?
Archmage also allows one to fully upgrade the stormbind runes in one tick starting at 1600 unreserved mana.
And adds a fuckton of lgt damage.

With two call of the brotherhood everything not dead is probably very frozen.

Might actually try to make Stormbind happen. Not sure which ASC though.

Edit: oh. Apparently you can have a spell totem cast the runes with stormbind and then detonate/upgrade them with runeblast.

Wait I'm confused now.
Also apparently archmage doesn't work with runeblast... So that doesn't work.

Ffs GGG is really bad at explaining mechanics
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 05:23:53
March 12 2020 05:22 GMT
#31737
when everything gets so complicated it makes me just want to easy mode ED. archmage storm brand seems amazing but I wouldn't be surprised if the gem gets nerfed further

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fh7qan/tytykiller_why_your_caster_leveling_sucks_tip/

handy tip, I usually did 1-2 of the base tier caster recipe, but never thought about the rare version
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 09:01:59
March 12 2020 08:51 GMT
#31738
How does herald of ice work with kinetic bolt. Does it add both damage source.

Edit. Changed anger to HoI
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 12 2020 09:24 GMT
#31739
On March 12 2020 09:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
spellslinger is 20% mana now fuck

Kind of called it. Was the same with Blasphemy and it seemed rather low to me.

On March 12 2020 10:19 disformation wrote:
Ffs GGG is really bad at explaining mechanics

QFT, I'm still not confident I understand the Archmage support. Maybe someone else here is?

Say I have 7000 unreserved mana, then 6% of it is 420. This is now the new base mana cost as far I understand. Meaning, my old one doesn't matter if it was betweeen 0 and 419. This base cost is now multiplied with support gem costs and mana cost multipliers as per usual and then 27% of that mana is being added as lightning damage? Doesn't sound bad at all.
Also do I understand correctly that if the base mana is higher due to say Indigon, Archmage will add (even more) damage as long as you are able to cast at all?

Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
March 12 2020 09:39 GMT
#31740
As I understand indigo.
increased Mana Cost of Skills for each 200 total Mana you have Spent Recently it effect the mana cost it self.
I have a feeling that this is to prevent free cast effect like vaal clarity. But wording is so clunky that i can't say for sure.
GO OG
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