• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:23
CET 02:23
KST 10:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Which season is the best in ASL? Data analysis on 70 million replays BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1270 users

Path of Exile - Page 157

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 155 156 157 158 159 1753 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 12 2013 23:51 GMT
#3121
Duelists will start very far from most good Witch passives. It will be really hard to use them effectively, and won't have the Int to use most skills for a while. But Shadows or Templars can do most Witch builds just as effectively. They'll simply have different routes for the first ~30 levels.

Any class can be made to use a Bow, for example, but they will have different playstyles. Templars will concentrate more on elemental damage, shadows on crits, and Rangers on physical damage, but people make almost anything work as long as it's carefully planned.
Soulmate
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Japan138 Posts
January 12 2013 23:54 GMT
#3122
On January 13 2013 08:41 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 08:20 radiatoren wrote:
On January 13 2013 04:52 Levistus wrote:
On January 13 2013 04:21 Obstikal wrote:
On January 13 2013 03:27 Levistus wrote:
anyone got a spare beta key? i just quit diablo 3 and want to try this game.


welcome to the dark side MUAHAHAHAHA!

or at least when you get your key.

god dammit i just lost in a say something witty contest!!! i want a keyyy lol.

edit:
got my key!
checked the forums to check info on the classes. holy shit there a lot of builds. and the passive skill tree omg! i dunno what to make!

can any class get the spells of other classes?

Every spell and every build is possible with every type of character(not exactly the same, but pretty close in most cases). It is extremely complex in that way.

What do you mean exactly not the same? What are the differences if for example i made a duelist with witch spells and skills compared to a witch with the same spells and skills?

also if classes can get every spell and skill, what should i then look for when choosing a class?

i want to plan out my character well.



Check : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anunpnd0-mAudHIxazRvZGpqLXdlQ3JfT0hkWVRjV2c#gid=1
You can get skill as reward for quest or you can loot them (or trade)
SC2Q
Profile Joined November 2012
United States3 Posts
January 12 2013 23:59 GMT
#3123
Hello all, member of the closed alpha here, and I can say that this game has some great progression going to it. I can't discuss any full details of things in development, however the build we are currently playing is absolutely awesome. One thing this game has going for it are the devs, the developers in this game regularly spend time with the players, taking feedback and listening appropriately. There is about a 10% respond rate on the regular forums of staff replying to threads, and that increases to easily over 80-90% on the alpha forums. Many of the changes you guys will see in the coming few weeks were directly suggested by players, and discussed over a period of many iterations by players and devs in the alpha client.

The devs in this game are very active, and generally roll out changes to the alpha client daily or bi-daily, resulting in ALOT of great testing.

Highly recommend this game.
Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 00:19:42
January 13 2013 00:18 GMT
#3124
so what you guys are saying is the only difference between classes are the passive skills? meaning duelists start far away from the witch's passive skills which means it's not worth it to waste points to reach them? so if i wanted to Chaos Innoculation i should choose witch instead or maybe the templar and shadow?

now i don't know what class to choose and especially what build especially since everyone can get the same spells.

edit: what spells and active skills are strong that i should focus my build around them?
hey man just curious
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 13 2013 00:22 GMT
#3125
On January 13 2013 09:18 Levistus wrote:
so what you guys are saying is the only difference between classes are the passive skills? meaning duelists start far away from the witch's passive skills which means it's not worth it to waste points to reach them? so if i wanted to Chaos Innoculation i should choose witch instead or maybe the templar and shadow?

now i don't know what class to choose and especially what build especially since everyone can get the same spells.

edit: what spells and active skills are strong that i should focus my build around them?


Just experiment and have fun for a couple weeks doing whatever and get your feet wet. Everything is gonna get reset so you have nothing to lose. If you're intent on copying a build just pick one from the forums that you think looks cool.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
lenjurik
Profile Joined September 2010
49 Posts
January 13 2013 00:30 GMT
#3126
Anyone know of a way to get a hold of a beta key? Another d3 washout here....
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 13 2013 00:36 GMT
#3127
I've been wanting to make a tank/support build. Any recommendations ?? I've only gotten to lvl 40 so I havent seen many skills but I was hoping to make a sort of paladin type class so to speak. One that can tank hits(high health pool) and with support skills that will help other people but my question is what are the support gems out there? I have a feeling im just going to level a char to max and have to learn the game that way lol >.<
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
January 13 2013 01:13 GMT
#3128
On January 13 2013 09:30 lenjurik wrote:
Anyone know of a way to get a hold of a beta key? Another d3 washout here....

At least some seems to be given out on twitch.tv channels every day. Go fishing and good luck!
Also, make an account on their site: Here Your chances seem to be pretty good if you use both methods.
There are two other options: Buy one here.
Or wait 11 days for the open beta to start.
Repeat before me
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 02:33:52
January 13 2013 01:13 GMT
#3129
What do you guys think is the best way to make burning arrow work as a pseudo AoE? Right now I have it attacked to LMP and Chain. I was thinking maybe I could take one of those off and use ele proliferation. I started to use Burning arrow for AoE and single target, I like what I have for single target except I am unsure if weapon elemental damage is better or if fire penetration is. I could have both single target, except one with crit damage and one with ele proliferation, but I would have to get more burn damage, really unsure at the point. I might even want to use something else for AoE but unsure still. The main reasons I am using burning arrow is cheap mana cost, damage isn't too bad, and the DoT of burn can be useful vs life regen/leech. I am unsure though, I might end up changing skills again.

I stopped using eldritch battery and started to use less auras so currently I am re-exploring my skill choice.

"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 13 2013 01:17 GMT
#3130
On January 13 2013 09:36 Obstikal wrote:
I've been wanting to make a tank/support build. Any recommendations ?? I've only gotten to lvl 40 so I havent seen many skills but I was hoping to make a sort of paladin type class so to speak. One that can tank hits(high health pool) and with support skills that will help other people but my question is what are the support gems out there? I have a feeling im just going to level a char to max and have to learn the game that way lol >.<


support stuff are auras (can stack as many as possible just limited to mana or health pool if you get Blood Magic), curses, or totems like Decoy Totem or using some skill that can proc a status effect
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
SC2Q
Profile Joined November 2012
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 02:04:29
January 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#3131
Best Advice For New Players

New Players generally believe that jumping into the skill tree and investing a lot of points into damage, attack speed, or critical hits are going to make them kill very quickly. The fact about path of exile is that a very large portion of your damage comes from your gear and skill gem level, which is then augmented by the passives. Many things in this game all work MULTIPLICATIVELY, and it is much easier to get survivability (and in larger amounts) by passives, rather than gear.

The damage will come with very very few passives invested. You lose experience when you die, up to 15% of your current level, or 30% in cut-throat, so dying is VERY VERY bad. Focus entirely on sustainability, defense, and easy to reach damage nodes that compliment your build design only, don't go crazy about damage, or around level 30 you will find yourself getting killed very frequently, and be unable to advance farther.

edit: spellcheck failed me.
Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens.
Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
January 13 2013 09:39 GMT
#3132
^Cannot stress enough what SC2Q said. That would be PoE builds 101.
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
January 13 2013 10:41 GMT
#3133
On January 13 2013 10:13 radiatoren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:30 lenjurik wrote:
Anyone know of a way to get a hold of a beta key? Another d3 washout here....

At least some seems to be given out on twitch.tv channels every day. Go fishing and good luck!
Also, make an account on their site: Here Your chances seem to be pretty good if you use both methods.
There are two other options: Buy one here.
Or wait 11 days for the open beta to start.

I think the 11 days is the best option. I am registered for 1 1/2 years now with no luck of the draw
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 13 2013 15:59 GMT
#3134
On January 13 2013 09:36 Obstikal wrote:
I've been wanting to make a tank/support build. Any recommendations ?? I've only gotten to lvl 40 so I havent seen many skills but I was hoping to make a sort of paladin type class so to speak. One that can tank hits(high health pool) and with support skills that will help other people but my question is what are the support gems out there? I have a feeling im just going to level a char to max and have to learn the game that way lol >.<
Tanky support builds don't really work at the moment, and to be fair, I'm not sure they ever will. This is not an MMO, everyone has to be able to take a hit, and there are no healers. That said, the tankiest builds at OB will certainly be marauders/templars with high life and shield. But the utility of such a build is severely limited unless you know exactly what you are doing. Support skills are limited mostly to auras and curses, but it is not a very satisfying way to play.

One of the best support class, however, is a wand/shield Templar with Conduit and Power Siphon. Conduit allows you to share your charges with nearby allies, and Power Siphon grants power charges (that grant increased crit chance). Throw in some Enduring cry, and you'll be sharing both power and endurance charges, while still doing good damage, mostly using the weapon elemental damage nodes from the Templar area. You can even grant some chance to shock to increase the damage monsters take. Pretty powerful build overall, and it uses elemental damage wands, which not many people use.

But don't be afraid to screw up your first character(s). We all did =)
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 13 2013 16:04 GMT
#3135
Can anyone recommend a good starter first char build for POE?

I hear bow templar/Dual Spork templar are easy? what about the other classes
Mew Mew Pew Pew
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
January 13 2013 16:42 GMT
#3136
On January 14 2013 01:04 Mithhaike wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good starter first char build for POE?

I hear bow templar/Dual Spork templar are easy? what about the other classes

I found the fun in PoE was creating my own classes and trying them out. Sure they didn't make it end game and most of them died as I played hardcore but I enjoyed changing some things and going at it again. So I recommend that you just try your own. Be creative. If not go look at the PoE character build forums.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
January 13 2013 17:22 GMT
#3137
Okay who wants to be on America HC 1 week race? Just to start off let's go together, no need to put in commitment to go all week.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 17:32:13
January 13 2013 17:31 GMT
#3138
On January 14 2013 01:04 Mithhaike wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good starter first char build for POE?

I hear bow templar/Dual Spork templar are easy? what about the other classes

Easiest way for a new player to level a character is to make a Marauder and just grab as many health nodes as possible. Something like this.

Go for Resolute Technique asap (skip the Elemental Adaptation node until you get past Normal, maybe after Cruel too), then go down and pick up Blood Magic to eliminate the need for mana flasks. Only pick up Unwavering Stance after you get Iron Reflexes. Feel free to pick up any nearby 30 int or 30 dex nodes to meet gem/item requirements.

Use a 2h weapon, with Heavy Strike (single target) and Sweep (or Ground Slam; for AoE). IR gets picked up because the Grace aura gives a TON of evasion rating to be turned into delicious and more reliable armor. Past Cruel you will need to keep up Endurance Charges to be able to stand up with big packs (and by big I mean 2-3 yellow mobs and a bunch of rares) since you might end up using some lower level gear for a long while. Gear-wise, a ton of damage on the weapon, soft cap ele resists to 55% (you will have 80% ele resist with 5 Endurance Charges up); any damage on jewelry/gloves is just extra, but don't sacrifice too much defense for it.

One more beauty of the Marauder is that you get a whole load of useful gems and supports as quest rewards. Not the case now, but at OB launch IIQ/Reduced Mana/Life leech or gain on hit supports will be really sought after.

Continuing the build is up to taste, you can go for Iron Grip + the ele damage nodes in the Templar section and use bows, specialize in one type of 2h, or go sword-n-board. I don't know how viable it will be once you start running maps, but it offers HUGE survivability up till Merciless, after that you have to either get good items or play more cautiously (as in stop going head-first into big big packs and pay attention to elites).
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 17:48:27
January 13 2013 17:38 GMT
#3139
On January 14 2013 00:59 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:36 Obstikal wrote:
I've been wanting to make a tank/support build. Any recommendations ?? I've only gotten to lvl 40 so I havent seen many skills but I was hoping to make a sort of paladin type class so to speak. One that can tank hits(high health pool) and with support skills that will help other people but my question is what are the support gems out there? I have a feeling im just going to level a char to max and have to learn the game that way lol >.<
Tanky support builds don't really work at the moment, and to be fair, I'm not sure they ever will. This is not an MMO, everyone has to be able to take a hit, and there are no healers. That said, the tankiest builds at OB will certainly be marauders/templars with high life and shield. But the utility of such a build is severely limited unless you know exactly what you are doing. Support skills are limited mostly to auras and curses, but it is not a very satisfying way to play.

One of the best support class, however, is a wand/shield Templar with Conduit and Power Siphon. Conduit allows you to share your charges with nearby allies, and Power Siphon grants power charges (that grant increased crit chance). Throw in some Enduring cry, and you'll be sharing both power and endurance charges, while still doing good damage, mostly using the weapon elemental damage nodes from the Templar area. You can even grant some chance to shock to increase the damage monsters take. Pretty powerful build overall, and it uses elemental damage wands, which not many people use.

But don't be afraid to screw up your first character(s). We all did =)



ah sweet thx so much. I realize its not a mmo. I just want a good build to help buddies in hardcore, clearing maps and bosses and of course who wouldnt want to be doing runs with someone whose going to make them stronger
I'd figure it would be a good build to start off with as a first char but chances are I will probably die anyway and have to remake him but thats okay because I'm probably going to fuck up the build around level 40 and realize it around 60 and have to remake him anyway. ittsss aaaallll goooooooood

Edit: hmm on second thought maybe I should try to do this as a witch.
Edit2:or.. or a templar
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
January 13 2013 18:13 GMT
#3140
On January 14 2013 02:38 Obstikal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 00:59 Pwere wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:36 Obstikal wrote:
I've been wanting to make a tank/support build. Any recommendations ?? I've only gotten to lvl 40 so I havent seen many skills but I was hoping to make a sort of paladin type class so to speak. One that can tank hits(high health pool) and with support skills that will help other people but my question is what are the support gems out there? I have a feeling im just going to level a char to max and have to learn the game that way lol >.<
Tanky support builds don't really work at the moment, and to be fair, I'm not sure they ever will. This is not an MMO, everyone has to be able to take a hit, and there are no healers. That said, the tankiest builds at OB will certainly be marauders/templars with high life and shield. But the utility of such a build is severely limited unless you know exactly what you are doing. Support skills are limited mostly to auras and curses, but it is not a very satisfying way to play.

One of the best support class, however, is a wand/shield Templar with Conduit and Power Siphon. Conduit allows you to share your charges with nearby allies, and Power Siphon grants power charges (that grant increased crit chance). Throw in some Enduring cry, and you'll be sharing both power and endurance charges, while still doing good damage, mostly using the weapon elemental damage nodes from the Templar area. You can even grant some chance to shock to increase the damage monsters take. Pretty powerful build overall, and it uses elemental damage wands, which not many people use.

But don't be afraid to screw up your first character(s). We all did =)



ah sweet thx so much. I realize its not a mmo. I just want a good build to help buddies in hardcore, clearing maps and bosses and of course who wouldnt want to be doing runs with someone whose going to make them stronger
I'd figure it would be a good build to start off with as a first char but chances are I will probably die anyway and have to remake him but thats okay because I'm probably going to fuck up the build around level 40 and realize it around 60 and have to remake him anyway. ittsss aaaallll goooooooood

Edit: hmm on second thought maybe I should try to do this as a witch.
Edit2:or.. or a templar


I think you get 12 skill refund points, so unless you massively screw up a build, it's possible to fix it or at least make it better by using those skill refund points
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Prev 1 155 156 157 158 159 1753 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
StarCraft Evolution League #16
CranKy Ducklings121
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 233
Vindicta 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13711
Artosis 766
Shuttle 727
Larva 198
League of Legends
C9.Mang0322
Cuddl3bear4
Counter-Strike
minikerr28
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor116
Other Games
tarik_tv9452
summit1g8809
Day[9].tv683
shahzam414
taco 156
XaKoH 130
Maynarde119
ViBE93
PPMD29
Mew2King26
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler44
League of Legends
• Doublelift4335
Other Games
• imaqtpie1010
• Day9tv683
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
1d 1h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
WardiTV 2025
1d 10h
SC Evo League
1d 11h
IPSL
1d 15h
Dewalt vs ZZZero
BSL 21
1d 18h
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
1d 20h
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs KameZerg
BSL 21
2 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV 2025
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.