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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 00:08:59
December 08 2019 23:30 GMT
#31361
Yeah still trying to reconcile ideas. Conflicted when it comes to all the new bow stuff they're pushing except I want to play something with survivability cuz new fresh atlas content and bosses and shit

Might start ED Trickster and transition into something chaos converty later on for big dmg, but I've also started with ED/Contagion like 3-4 times now... Hmm
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
December 09 2019 01:03 GMT
#31362
You can build bow characters with survivability, its just that people usually don't because it requires giving up some damage or clear speed and the main reason people play bow skills is to zoom around the map oneshotting everything and never getting hit.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 09 2019 02:43 GMT
#31363
Yeah that's true but the trade off always feels way steeper than melee imo. I'm really only considering it because of the new supports and ballistas and all that, just cuz new. In no other league or circumstance would I ever consider starting bow just based on personal experience and preference, so that's probably my answer.

Also the first league in a while where I'm more excited about trying new CONTENT than I am about trying a new build/skill. Which is maybe why I'm feeling the urge toward playing something solid and that I'm familiar with, and it's not bothering me like it usually does.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
December 09 2019 12:58 GMT
#31364
Is Stormbrand still good?

I'm kinda lost on what i want to Play, I used Stormbrand a few leagues ago as a "sidespell" to have some extra clear on the go for a spell-dmg focussed Character and it seemed really nice but afaik it got nerfed since then?
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 09 2019 13:11 GMT
#31365
It lost some DPS, but the mechanics of brand skills in general are still great. So I guess it just takes a bit more gear to make it feel powerful.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
December 09 2019 14:41 GMT
#31366
Crit storm brand is the go-to nowadays from what I've seen, assassin and occultist are both quite strong with it
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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 09 2019 17:58 GMT
#31367
On September 25 2019 13:43 Haasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2019 15:10 Haasts wrote:
Trundling along in SSF; not sure what my goals are now I've downed uber elder (5L slave drivers in Pledge of Hands are preeeeeetty good) - saving up jewellers/fusings to 6L the staff (and my chest's 5S4L, heh) but if I've killed uber elder ...
Just had a Shavs drop as well, so I might try to go LL and throw some more auras around - I've been trying to farm yellow/red elder guardians for a Memory Vault, but no luck yet (though I have ~80% of the other drops).


Still no Memory Vault, but had a Mask of the Tribunal drop from my one Synthesis boss so that's doing the job in a pinch, 6Led the Shavs on the first fuse when I'd just popped my Jeweller's Touch prophecy(!!), and eventually threw fuses at my staff after I'd saved up ~1800 while unsuccessfully trying to delve down to find a Primeval Ruins (~352, was the fifth deepest delver in SSF last I checked) - hit the 6L in just under 600, which was nice after my terrible fusing luck in Legion.

Hoping to grind out 36 challenges, but a bunch of them are a pain (been a few leagues since I've captured a bestiary boss, and no luck with a Beachhead so far this league), and it'll be hard to do a number of the fiddly challenges as a summoner, even if I can probably finesse some with a Mark of the Red Covenant.


I totally burned out not long after this - got busy with a new job/relaysh/etc; had made it to ~34 challenges but was either going to be grinding out master missions or respeccing from summoner to something that could get a bunch of the "defeat boss by hopping on one leg blindfolded while not DPSing for 10 secs" challenges, ah well. Missed all the exciting Exilecon stuff despite living in the same city

Excited for new Atlas mechanics, kinda w/Duka on this one:

On December 09 2019 11:43 Duka08 wrote:
Yeah that's true but the trade off always feels way steeper than melee imo. I'm really only considering it because of the new supports and ballistas and all that, just cuz new. In no other league or circumstance would I ever consider starting bow just based on personal experience and preference, so that's probably my answer.

Also the first league in a while where I'm more excited about trying new CONTENT than I am about trying a new build/skill. Which is maybe why I'm feeling the urge toward playing something solid and that I'm familiar with, and it's not bothering me like it usually does.

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ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
December 09 2019 19:44 GMT
#31368
I can't think of any specific reason why the trade off would be worse for bow characters, but if you are just interested in the content and not that keen on bow stuff there are almost certainly more pleasant league starter builds, unless one of the new/reworked bow skills is crazy overtuned like normal. Gonna have to wait for patch notes/lvl 20 gems to see that tho.
Inaam
Profile Joined December 2019
1 Post
December 09 2019 20:39 GMT
#31369
Which ascendancy classes are most suited to bow builds?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
December 09 2019 21:00 GMT
#31370
Hi,

I'm just starting POE, i played 1 character this past month up to doing T2 map, and I would like to restart when the next season start this week.

Any recommendation on a site with build to fallow ?

I did a ranger/bow and I would like to try some kind of summoner.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-09 21:47:11
December 09 2019 21:39 GMT
#31371
On December 10 2019 05:39 Inaam wrote:
Which ascendancy classes are most suited to bow builds?

There are many, any of the Ranger ones work well, you can go Shadow and Assassin or even Trickster if you wanna use a poison skill. Then you could go Duelist and use Slayer/Champion for a phys bow build, and even the Marauder and other classes can work if you know what you're doing.

As a starter, I'd rather go Ranger and probably Deadeye or Raider.

On December 10 2019 06:00 FaCE_1 wrote:
Hi,

I'm just starting POE, i played 1 character this past month up to doing T2 map, and I would like to restart when the next season start this week.

Any recommendation on a site with build to fallow ?

I did a ranger/bow and I would like to try some kind of summoner.

Did you check the official Necromancer forum? There are many good builds.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
December 09 2019 21:51 GMT
#31372
There are a couple of resources you could use:
Zizarian's and Mathilification's youtube channels. They post builds that they think will be good for the next league, a few days before the actual league starts.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mathilification
https://www.youtube.com/user/Pcchild88

2nd: The official forums. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/22
Crazy, am I right? They actually DO have some pretty nifty threads detailing builds on specific class forums that are updated every league with changes. I assume you'll want a witch to be a summoner, but have a look around at the different classes and ascendencies as well.

3rd: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds If you don't mind starting a little slow/later than average going there and cherry picking exactly what you want will show you EXACTLY what people are running. Their gear, skill point distributiion, etc.

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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 09 2019 23:58 GMT
#31373
Yeah highly recommend mathil's "league starters" vid. He hasn't posted the 3.9 one yet but if you're itching for ideas early you could look at his starters for the most recent couple leagues. There tend to be some overlap anyway.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-10 03:40:44
December 10 2019 03:39 GMT
#31374
On December 10 2019 06:39 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2019 05:39 Inaam wrote:
Which ascendancy classes are most suited to bow builds?

There are many, any of the Ranger ones work well, you can go Shadow and Assassin or even Trickster if you wanna use a poison skill. Then you could go Duelist and use Slayer/Champion for a phys bow build, and even the Marauder and other classes can work if you know what you're doing.

As a starter, I'd rather go Ranger and probably Deadeye or Raider.


I really liked Raider as my introduction to the game when I played awhile back. There's a lot of quality of life things you get with Raider (Ignore Elemental Ailments, high evasion, phasing, Onslaught) that makes them pretty good when you are getting the hang of things.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
December 10 2019 04:34 GMT
#31375
On December 10 2019 04:44 ThaddeusK wrote:
I can't think of any specific reason why the trade off would be worse for bow characters, but if you are just interested in the content and not that keen on bow stuff there are almost certainly more pleasant league starter builds, unless one of the new/reworked bow skills is crazy overtuned like normal. Gonna have to wait for patch notes/lvl 20 gems to see that tho.

in my experience, bow characters are very gear dependent, so while you can eventually become tanky and strong, it takes longer compared to builds like summoner or ED contagion

the exception is stuff like toxic rain, explosive arrow, elemental hit. I'm looking at one of those for league start maybe... I really don't like bow starting though. guess just have to have good judgement and pick the overtuned skill xD
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
December 10 2019 04:39 GMT
#31376
Think they changed bow gems to do more damage and less base damage. So they are less gear dependent on early levels. Not sure if this means less damage late game.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 10 2019 09:19 GMT
#31377
Hmm, tough to say who got hit the most by the patch. Bosses getting a lot more tanky due to having more resistances, more life, and higher life scaling at high tiers... RIP builds that don't have a lot of damage.

I think since there are not many ways to reduce chaos res, so higher chaos res on bosses sucks a lot for chaos builds. Also I'm quite unsure how higher monster armour will feel, I could imagine it to end up horrible for phys skills that hit fast (Cyclone, Barrage?).
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
December 10 2019 11:05 GMT
#31378
On December 10 2019 06:51 Latham wrote:
There are a couple of resources you could use:
Zizarian's and Mathilification's youtube channels. They post builds that they think will be good for the next league, a few days before the actual league starts.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Mathilification
https://www.youtube.com/user/Pcchild88

2nd: The official forums. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/22
Crazy, am I right? They actually DO have some pretty nifty threads detailing builds on specific class forums that are updated every league with changes. I assume you'll want a witch to be a summoner, but have a look around at the different classes and ascendencies as well.

3rd: https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds If you don't mind starting a little slow/later than average going there and cherry picking exactly what you want will show you EXACTLY what people are running. Their gear, skill point distributiion, etc.


Thx, will take a look at that !
n_n
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6929 Posts
December 10 2019 13:57 GMT
#31379
I've just read a bit about what's to come in 3.9

I mean this game has the most complicated endgame I've ever encountered anyway and now it gets even more complicated? How on earth can someone new to the game and its mechanics understand this?
I don't want to read for hours on end how to do stuff. I wanna jump in for an hour or 2 and get stuff done and have a sense of accomplishment :/

I really wanna get into this but this seems like a huge obstacle in addition to the freakishly complicated builds and character development.

How did you guys get started?
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
December 10 2019 14:29 GMT
#31380
On December 10 2019 22:57 Harris1st wrote:
I've just read a bit about what's to come in 3.9

I mean this game has the most complicated endgame I've ever encountered anyway and now it gets even more complicated? How on earth can someone new to the game and its mechanics understand this?
I don't want to read for hours on end how to do stuff. I wanna jump in for an hour or 2 and get stuff done and have a sense of accomplishment :/

I really wanna get into this but this seems like a huge obstacle in addition to the freakishly complicated builds and character development.

How did you guys get started?


Don't think too much about what happens later.

The game is pretty simple if you borrow a build in the beginning of a league and just want to get through maps. Pick a guide with some leveling advice. Usually it doesn't seem worth it to get too deep into league specific content either.

Most things before end-game is probably just optimizations and don't matter too much for the casual and/or beginner.
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