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On December 05 2019 02:40 Duka08 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2019 19:59 PoulsenB wrote:
yeah I've seen the assassin BV builds but it's been a while since I played some Elementalist so I would prefer to use the og BV build. I'm gonna PoB this and see what the numbers look like for Ele. Triple Herald (Mastermind of Discord) + lots of golems (Elemancer) is a solid foundation for damn near any skill. And bad gear too. The golems alone boost a bunch of damage and survivability stats. Mathil did this with Static Strike early in the league and that sort of build could be easily molded to work with pretty much anything. Even though it's static strike and "uses" voidforge, there's hardly any lightning damage or sword stuff on the tree. Very adaptable. I'd definitely bet that he includes it with his starter builds for next league. I'm sure BV would be great, if you're really feeling that in particular. The way the golem effects scale from the Liege of the Primordial and Elemancer ascendancies is really sick. Solid stuff.
Very interesting, I'll look into it! Thanks 
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I think ill finally go with Ice golems as elementalist. Wanted to it this league but decided to skip the league because i dont like the Tower defense. Ice golems are solid bosskillers, so it will hopefully work out pretty well with the league mechanic.
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On December 05 2019 00:20 Alur wrote:
HCSSF for entertaining death and "first to enter" messages.
true true. will be a hype league start for sure in that regard.
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On December 05 2019 09:14 LagLovah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2019 00:20 Alur wrote:
HCSSF for entertaining death and "first to enter" messages. true true. will be a hype league start for sure in that regard.
Chris on dropped frames said that maps are going to be harder in 3.9 than now so there is going to be a lot of dead people in this HCSSF try hard league.
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It should be interesting.. without being able to shape maps the whole experience will be different.
Thinking of making a miner to start anyways - something guardian if i want to attempt the new boss.
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I'm actually a bit mad about the new map system because I was going to finally do a proper shaped map strat in 3.9, and now with the new changes this plan goes out the window xd
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depending on how much necros get nerfed, that should be a pretty easy SSF start? even with some damage nerfs tabula is all you need
I'm glad for any map changes to shake things up. Don't worry, I'm sure there will be some abusable / high efficiency strat similar to shaping
I'm contemplating SSF too to be honest, HC trade will be deader than dead most likely, and I have meant to try SSF more seriously. I'm a bit leery of the somewhat higher time commitment to reach certain gear / progression milestones
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I'll probably start the league late anyway because my PC died a few days ago and it will take me some time to get it fixed, so maybe until I start some new atlas strats will have already emerged.
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Necros will most likely get nerfed, else there wouldn't be much of a meta change in the end and the recent patches did just that. However they won't nerf it enough for it to become bad. Honestly, they buffed the dps of minions through the roof with 3.8, it wasn't even bad before (not at all in fact). The new wands and the new ascendancy changes plus Feeding Frenzy made it so much stronger.
I'm almost certain Necro summoner will remain the best (SSF)HC ascendancy together with Guardian summoners.
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On December 06 2019 21:39 EchelonTee wrote:
depending on how much necros get nerfed, that should be a pretty easy SSF start? even with some damage nerfs tabula is all you need
I'm glad for any map changes to shake things up. Don't worry, I'm sure there will be some abusable / high efficiency strat similar to shaping
I'm contemplating SSF too to be honest, HC trade will be deader than dead most likely, and I have meant to try SSF more seriously. I'm a bit leery of the somewhat higher time commitment to reach certain gear / progression milestones
every time i have played SSF i progress faster in gear and levels than in trade.... since you know, you just map. Not wasting tons of time looking at trade sites.
I imagine summoners are going to get nerfed hard.... at least it feels like it would be weird for them to have a race challenge with such a strong outlier in balance.
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Sooo is now a good time to start playing again? Or rather wait until 4.0?
I have some time on my hands around christmas and not sure yet what I will be playing. PoE is definitely high upon that list right now
I am intrigued by SSF, be it HC or SC. The last time I quit with PoE with cause the trading system pissed me of (was a few years back)
Found a site (requnix) with some decent info on builds already
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if you wait till 4.0 you will not be playing for quite some time ~~
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On December 06 2019 23:03 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
if you wait till 4.0 you will not be playing for quite some time ~~
Yeah, at least one year. Common misconception, a lot of people think 4.0 follows after 3.9. Nope, there will be a lot of leagues in between.
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Does the chance to avoid ailments from the Elementalist golem nodes provides defacto ailment immunity if stacked up to 100+ % (basically with 3+ golems)? I'm not sure how avoidance chance is rolled with the % modifiers.
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On December 06 2019 21:39 EchelonTee wrote:
depending on how much necros get nerfed, that should be a pretty easy SSF start? even with some damage nerfs tabula is all you need
I'm glad for any map changes to shake things up. Don't worry, I'm sure there will be some abusable / high efficiency strat similar to shaping
I'm contemplating SSF too to be honest, HC trade will be deader than dead most likely, and I have meant to try SSF more seriously. I'm a bit leery of the somewhat higher time commitment to reach certain gear / progression milestones
Just play HC trade because it's gonna be so dead that it's basically SSF.
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On December 07 2019 01:14 PoulsenB wrote:
Does the chance to avoid ailments from the Elementalist golem nodes provides defacto ailment immunity if stacked up to 100+ % (basically with 3+ golems)? I'm not sure how avoidance chance is rolled with the % modifiers.
100% avoidance is equivalent to immunity (even for ground effects)
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If nothing tickles my fancy in a future league I would like to try out a golem build but as an SSF player I'm not sure how viable it is, the gems are just to rare 
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The new unique body armour that got teased surely will be a chase item, so I'm not planning to make a build with it just yet. That said, it looks very strong. Could even use it with a Necromancer with the corpse ES/Mana regen node aside from the obvious synergy with Hierophant.
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I like the design. It's not straightforward building like Kaoms or Shav's, you have to think about it a bit. I think it could be quite OP but would require specific gear.
Also it looks sick
On December 06 2019 22:42 Harris1st wrote:
Sooo is now a good time to start playing again? Or rather wait until 4.0?
I have some time on my hands around christmas and not sure yet what I will be playing. PoE is definitely high upon that list right now
I am intrigued by SSF, be it HC or SC. The last time I quit with PoE with cause the trading system pissed me of (was a few years back)
Found a site (requnix) with some decent info on builds already
we don't really know if next league will be good for "jumping back in". The league mechanic on paper seems like it will be a bit tough if you're not familiar with current boss mechanics, so HCSSF would be pretty hard, not to mention the revamped mapping system.
SSF in general is better though as far as I know. Not sure when you last played was, but things like fossil crafting (delve), cheaper/better bench mods make getting acceptable gear easier. and there are quite a few SSF friendly builds, with more guides for them since the playstyle is more popular than in the past
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On December 06 2019 20:34 PoulsenB wrote:
I'm actually a bit mad about the new map system because I was going to finally do a proper shaped map strat in 3.9, and now with the new changes this plan goes out the window xd
That and the new endgame quests might be the only reason for me to play the next league, the bow stuff GGG was teasing looks super boring to me and I often play bow builds anyways.
Maybe I find a build idea that seems fun to me until the league starts.
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