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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 27 2019 14:58 GMT
#30501
On March 27 2019 23:33 Logo wrote:
What's the logic behind running Mind over Matter + Eldritch Battery? I'm having a little trouble figuring out all the ramifications of doing that, but it seems popular.

It seems to me what you end up with is the ability to reserve all your mana with auras and still cast & the ability to leech more efficiently because damage will hit your life & energy shield more equally.

If you go that build do you still want a lot of +Mana, or do you instead just focus on Energy Shield and try to get Energy shield to be ~40% of your Life total?

If you go for MoM+EB you don't want to put any points into more mana.
And you will probably want more ES than 40% of life since you can recover life faster than ES you might find yourself in situations with no ES to use skills.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 15:21:49
March 27 2019 15:11 GMT
#30502
That should basically never be an issue as Trickster because you regain ES on being hit, on kill and there is ES leech. You probably won't need any "extra" ES, at least not due to regen/es issues .


I run my CI Trickster on really low Mana (Despair + Disc Aura + no mana nodes + barely any mana on gear) and can do red no regen maps with harsh mods whiteout any issues as long as i don't mindlessly spam my skills when there are no enemies to kill...

Trickster is plain insane atm.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 16:07:33
March 27 2019 16:07 GMT
#30503
On March 28 2019 00:11 Velr wrote:
That should basically never be an issue as Trickster because you regain ES on being hit, on kill and there is ES leech. You probably won't need any "extra" ES, at least not due to regen/es issues .


I run my CI Trickster on really low Mana (Despair + Disc Aura + no mana nodes + barely any mana on gear) and can do red no regen maps with harsh mods whiteout any issues as long as i don't mindlessly spam my skills when there are no enemies to kill...

Trickster is plain insane atm.

How do you fight bosses, you only get mana on kill?
And only if you took that one node that is not that useful for non DoT based tricksters.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
March 27 2019 16:47 GMT
#30504
On March 28 2019 00:11 Velr wrote:
That should basically never be an issue as Trickster because you regain ES on being hit, on kill and there is ES leech. You probably won't need any "extra" ES, at least not due to regen/es issues .


I run my CI Trickster on really low Mana (Despair + Disc Aura + no mana nodes + barely any mana on gear) and can do red no regen maps with harsh mods whiteout any issues as long as i don't mindlessly spam my skills when there are no enemies to kill...

Trickster is plain insane atm.

Could you provide a link to your CI Trickster build?
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
March 27 2019 17:13 GMT
#30505
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAFvBAcG5w18DkgPqxB7EQ8RUBGWE20UCRSwFr8YahpyHwIfQR9MIG4i6iL0JIsmiCepLKYsvy9vL9YzozQKNbk2xTdmOVI5mTsNPLZJE0lRSbFMLUyDTLNObVAwUq9YB1gxXEBca13yZ_xqjGwLbRlwu3DUdIF1nnaCfll_xoIehEiExYfLieCLeo_6kNaTH5Mnl5WX9JhTm6GbtZwyoS-i2aOjpAWlxKcrp5utSrDYtAy00bVItzC3OLkCuW-7Tb46vorBxcM6w23IDMgUylnK088V0UXZE9o72xrbXt1f4vfjYuZY6rrsGO_r8NX1b_X699f5pA==?accountName=aDoreMe&characterName=Velr

I think this Link should work.
There are probably better/more streamlined builds but so far i had no issues with anything the game threw at me, I didn't make it to Guardians yet (i basically only played on the weekends so far).

With my Weapon/Shield damage will likely be a bit low for real lategame but with a decay-wand there is plenty of potential to easily boost it.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
March 27 2019 17:23 GMT
#30506
On March 28 2019 02:13 Velr wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAAFvBAcG5w18DkgPqxB7EQ8RUBGWE20UCRSwFr8YahpyHwIfQR9MIG4i6iL0JIsmiCepLKYsvy9vL9YzozQKNbk2xTdmOVI5mTsNPLZJE0lRSbFMLUyDTLNObVAwUq9YB1gxXEBca13yZ_xqjGwLbRlwu3DUdIF1nnaCfll_xoIehEiExYfLieCLeo_6kNaTH5Mnl5WX9JhTm6GbtZwyoS-i2aOjpAWlxKcrp5utSrDYtAy00bVItzC3OLkCuW-7Tb46vorBxcM6w23IDMgUylnK088V0UXZE9o72xrbXt1f4vfjYuZY6rrsGO_r8NX1b_X699f5pA==?accountName=aDoreMe&characterName=Velr

I think this Link should work.
There are probably better/more streamlined builds but so far i had no issues with anything the game threw at me, I didn't make it to Guardians yet (i basically only played on the weekends so far).

With my Weapon/Shield damage will likely be a bit low for real lategame but with a decay-wand there is plenty of potential to easily boost it.

Thanks! Been kinda debating whether I want to get involved in this league or not, been a bit low on time and sorta burned out last season towards the middle of it, but I am interested in trying out different builds from what I normally run and CI Trickster sounded like it would be fun. Appreciate it
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 27 2019 17:24 GMT
#30507
Yeah I was doing CI Trickster with bane/soulrend and even without stellar ES gear it's so good for mapping. The on kill regen is sick. Haven't played in a week or two unfortunately but definitely not done with the league. I think next time around I'll actually go life + EB/MoM like a lot of folks seem to have this league. But for my first dabble with chaos skills (started ED/Contagion but bane and soulrend are way too good as new skills) I'm enjoying it immensely and will probably do a similar character next league starter as well.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 27 2019 17:30 GMT
#30508
Man synthesized items can be so incredibly overpowered, but damn are they expensive as fuck to make.
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The bow is probably the strongest item you can have right now. As in it boosts your char the most. Lvl 33 main skill and you dont need any other increased damage gear anymore. But the bases for that are basically not available, have to live-search for them and then snipe them before someone else does and then it still costs a mirror or so.
Hopefully the patch makes more people pick up fractured items and lower the prices a bit.
Then again those items are so beyond what is necessary to "beat" the content.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10229 Posts
March 27 2019 17:52 GMT
#30509
Holy fuck that bow is absurd.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 18:09:21
March 27 2019 18:04 GMT
#30510
On March 28 2019 01:07 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2019 00:11 Velr wrote:
That should basically never be an issue as Trickster because you regain ES on being hit, on kill and there is ES leech. You probably won't need any "extra" ES, at least not due to regen/es issues .


I run my CI Trickster on really low Mana (Despair + Disc Aura + no mana nodes + barely any mana on gear) and can do red no regen maps with harsh mods whiteout any issues as long as i don't mindlessly spam my skills when there are no enemies to kill...

Trickster is plain insane atm.

How do you fight bosses, you only get mana on kill?
And only if you took that one node that is not that useful for non DoT based tricksters.


Well, i am Dot-Based and regen has just not be an issue so far. I mainly use Bane and Blight from the gloves to speed up bosskills (they die FAST). Soulrend is just on a 4 Link to sometimes Offscreen a bit. With Soulrend as mainskill i would probably have mana issues but Bane is basically free. Imho Soulrend shines with the Mom/EB builds, but a Bane focussed build just doesn't need any Mana...

For endgame bossing some adjustments would probably be required (Perfect form instead of Qotf, 2 Decay Wands instead of Mace/Shield) but for general mapping this is probably one of the fastest and by far safest build i have ever played.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 18:30:06
March 27 2019 18:05 GMT
#30511
Yeah the synth items are pretty crazy, though it's certainly kind of overwhelming as a newish player in terms of what things are worth what. Though that's sort of PoE in general. I have no calibration for what's worth what with the synth stuff.

Like I RNG-crafted a +9% increased maximum energy shield belt implicit which I was pretty happy about (it even rolled with +life +energy shield but at lower-ish tier levels). But it seems like I could just buy a dozen of those at 1c if I really wanted to. I really wasn't expecting +9% to just be the low end roll for max energy shield on a belt since usually the % life or es increases are the top roll on other pieces of gear.

I guess putting another way, there's this weird gap with synth where you can make some stuff that's a notch above random rare drops pretty easily, and you can make real end game GG gear, but the leg work or effort to make that middle tier is pretty tough. There's not great tooling to buy fractured items and you'll never get enough of the same rolls to get any of the mid tier mod results on your own.
Logo
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 27 2019 18:49 GMT
#30512
Jesus fucking christ that gear Warri posted
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 27 2019 18:53 GMT
#30513
On March 28 2019 03:05 Logo wrote:
I guess putting another way, there's this weird gap with synth where you can make some stuff that's a notch above random rare drops pretty easily, and you can make real end game GG gear, but the leg work or effort to make that middle tier is pretty tough. There's not great tooling to buy fractured items and you'll never get enough of the same rolls to get any of the mid tier mod results on your own.

You can actually select exactly which mods you want fractured or how many.
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It's just that the highend items that you need to cross the thresholds are dozens of ex, if they are available at all. There isnt a single double fractured vaal regalia with those es mods for example right now. I have a few things in the mid tier on live search whole day and its...not looking good
But as i said, patch will change the availability of those items, they will drop a bit more so hopefully more people will sell them.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 19:37:23
March 27 2019 19:36 GMT
#30514
On March 28 2019 03:53 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2019 03:05 Logo wrote:
I guess putting another way, there's this weird gap with synth where you can make some stuff that's a notch above random rare drops pretty easily, and you can make real end game GG gear, but the leg work or effort to make that middle tier is pretty tough. There's not great tooling to buy fractured items and you'll never get enough of the same rolls to get any of the mid tier mod results on your own.

You can actually select exactly which mods you want fractured or how many.
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It's just that the highend items that you need to cross the thresholds are dozens of ex, if they are available at all. There isnt a single double fractured vaal regalia with those es mods for example right now. I have a few things in the mid tier on live search whole day and its...not looking good
But as i said, patch will change the availability of those items, they will drop a bit more so hopefully more people will sell them.


Yeah, but if I'm looking to kind of cursory engage with the synth mechanic (beyond just throwing in whatever junk I get as drops) looking up specific fractured mods on Poe.trade is still a ton of work just to get a synth base that I then need to put more work into. I guess I am underestimating the value of scour -> crafting onto a fractured base maybe.

By comparison it feels pretty easy to engage a bit with say fossil crafting, essences, and the like even for mediocre crafting when I just want something for some nominal amount (like 50c or whatever) I can still grab some cheap fossils that are relevant for my build and interact with the system that way.
Logo
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 27 2019 23:45 GMT
#30515
Welp, they stealth fixed dead mods, that just cost me 4ex. [image loading]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-28 12:58:25
March 28 2019 12:47 GMT
#30516
On March 28 2019 04:36 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2019 03:53 Warri wrote:
On March 28 2019 03:05 Logo wrote:
I guess putting another way, there's this weird gap with synth where you can make some stuff that's a notch above random rare drops pretty easily, and you can make real end game GG gear, but the leg work or effort to make that middle tier is pretty tough. There's not great tooling to buy fractured items and you'll never get enough of the same rolls to get any of the mid tier mod results on your own.

You can actually select exactly which mods you want fractured or how many.
[image loading]
It's just that the highend items that you need to cross the thresholds are dozens of ex, if they are available at all. There isnt a single double fractured vaal regalia with those es mods for example right now. I have a few things in the mid tier on live search whole day and its...not looking good
But as i said, patch will change the availability of those items, they will drop a bit more so hopefully more people will sell them.


Yeah, but if I'm looking to kind of cursory engage with the synth mechanic (beyond just throwing in whatever junk I get as drops) looking up specific fractured mods on Poe.trade is still a ton of work just to get a synth base that I then need to put more work into. I guess I am underestimating the value of scour -> crafting onto a fractured base maybe.

By comparison it feels pretty easy to engage a bit with say fossil crafting, essences, and the like even for mediocre crafting when I just want something for some nominal amount (like 50c or whatever) I can still grab some cheap fossils that are relevant for my build and interact with the system that way.

This league mechanics are for traders and crafters again. Just like the last one and even delve was like that. But at least in delve I could just easily sell all my found fossils to those that like crafting.
And in Incursion I could mostly ignore crafting parts (double corruptions) as I never had any good/extra items to double corrupt but I still got currency and maps from temple runs.

I just sell all fractured items, who knows if I found anything worth something. I don't. I don't care to spend extra 10h trying to appraise every item through poe.trade (or other sites) so that maybe I could get one that sells for more than 1 alch.
I guess with changes to map drop in league I can finally start getting something that is worth to me.

All the focus on crafting in PoE is really starting to get on my nerves, I am not playing Diablo like aRPG to consult 5 different tables on how to craft all my gear. I want to loot the gear off dead enemies. Focus on trading for gear is already bad enough.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
March 28 2019 12:48 GMT
#30517
I don't know what it is this league but I just can't sustain maps at all. got stuck at tier 3 ffs. Just ran another half dozen t3 maps, all alched and all monsters cleared. Not a single T4 drop and ended with less T3 then I started and that has happened a few days in a row now.

Guess i'm done playing for this league, maybe next one GGG will get the drops rate better.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 28 2019 12:49 GMT
#30518
On March 28 2019 21:48 Gorsameth wrote:
I don't know what it is this league but I just can't sustain maps at all. got stuck at tier 3 ffs. Just ran another half dozen t3 maps, all alched and all monsters cleared. Not a single T4 drop and ended with less T3 then I started and that has happened a few days in a row now.

Guess i'm done playing for this league, maybe next one GGG will get the drops rate better.

Zana is answer to all your problems :D
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
March 28 2019 12:56 GMT
#30519
On March 28 2019 21:49 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2019 21:48 Gorsameth wrote:
I don't know what it is this league but I just can't sustain maps at all. got stuck at tier 3 ffs. Just ran another half dozen t3 maps, all alched and all monsters cleared. Not a single T4 drop and ended with less T3 then I started and that has happened a few days in a row now.

Guess i'm done playing for this league, maybe next one GGG will get the drops rate better.

Zana is answer to all your problems :D
I shouldn't need to buy T3 maps from Zana to pray that for once it drops a T4 so I can then have that not drop a T4/5 and fall down to T3 again. I never had to do that before in the last few leagues I played.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-28 13:00:37
March 28 2019 12:59 GMT
#30520
On March 28 2019 21:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2019 21:49 -Archangel- wrote:
On March 28 2019 21:48 Gorsameth wrote:
I don't know what it is this league but I just can't sustain maps at all. got stuck at tier 3 ffs. Just ran another half dozen t3 maps, all alched and all monsters cleared. Not a single T4 drop and ended with less T3 then I started and that has happened a few days in a row now.

Guess i'm done playing for this league, maybe next one GGG will get the drops rate better.

Zana is answer to all your problems :D
I shouldn't need to buy T3 maps from Zana to pray that for once it drops a T4 so I can then have that not drop a T4/5 and fall down to T3 again. I never had to do that before in the last few leagues I played.

I will admit that your luck with maps is strange, but my suggestion was more about buying t4 maps instead of waiting for them to drop :D
Also when you find a wild Zana always do missions on maps you don't have unlocked yet.

also go do nexus stuff now after the patch. Lots more maps should be dropping now.
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