Path of Exile - Page 1499

I theory crafted a build but not sure how good it is, if anyone wants to take a look. I based it on diabloyd's guide, but wanted to use cooldown reduction, and decided pathfinder might be better than inquisitor for 2nd scion ascendency.
https://pastebin.com/gv5TepQ1

On December 30 2018 03:47 TheYango wrote:

That was a bug from the first week where the initial A7 Alva quest could bug out and become impossible to complete if you left her zone. Was fixed in the first big patch.


It varies heavily based on how much bank you have to start, what point in the league it is, and whether you're playing HC or SC.

First week economy you earn more out of selling shit, but at this point in SC, 99% of stuff is worthless cuz that's how the SC economy works. So either you find something insane and make multi-ex on it, or its not worth your time to sell.

EDIT: If you want to make currency in this game, I'd say that the #1 most important thing is to just not waste time. The game has tons of avenues for making currency now (bosses, Syndicate, Delve, Lab, etc.), and really any of them "work". The main thing is that you kind of just have to not waste time doing menial bullshit for irrelevant amounts of currency. Tons of people try to scrounge up currency selling random crap in the range of 1 alch to a couple chaos, and while I'm grateful these people exist because sometimes you're missing a random low tier map or need some shitty unique for something, the amount of time spent selling this crap running back and forth from your hideout is time spent not farming something. Same goes for stuff like chaos recipe. This kind of menial garbage isn't even fun, but people spend so much time not killing monsters for more loot because they think that they'll earn more currency this way way, when really they'd earn more currency killing monsters for more loot (and have a more fun time with the game doing it).

I spent the majority of my first league doing a bunch of this kind of dumb shit (e.g. chaos recipe) and finally realized by the end that if only stopped to sell things that were *actually* worth something, I was both making more currency and having more fun because I was actually playing PoE and not hideout loot tetris.

On December 30 2018 05:37 TheYango wrote:
Idk how you bleed alchs unless you're rerolling low tier maps more than you should. Even on SSF yellow maps are net positive for alchs off of drops + vendoring uniques for alch shards. You don't need to trade currency to keep your alchs up. I don't even know how your chaos decreases.

On December 30 2018 06:08 -Archangel- wrote:
When I tried ignoring uniques and rares I ran many maps and didn't feel like I got any richer.

On December 30 2018 05:59 Jealous wrote:
Should I buy gear and hope to make that money back in increased clear speed and ignore rare drops altogether?

On December 30 2018 13:55 Jealous wrote:
I realized that I have this obsession with increasing my stats little by little. Like, I have an armor that is 4L, 60 health, 40 fire, 20 cold, 15 lightning (for example). I find an armor that is 80 life, 40 fire, 30 cold, 20 lightning. I socket it, link it, craft it, sell my old one for like 1 chaos. End up at a net deficit. Rinse repeat before and after. I realized that I am losing currency not only on crafting but also because of lost time looking for that one in a hundred armor that is better than my current.

On December 31 2018 01:05 TheYango wrote:

Thank you for perfectly illustrating what I called "hideout loot tetris".

Compared to just mass-dumping everything in a quad tab and looking at said quad tab once every hour, this is both a waste of time, and makes playing PoE feel like a job and not like a game.

On December 31 2018 00:58 r.Evo wrote:
I gave this chaos recipe guide a try like 2 leagues ago, probably one of the most efficient ways of going about it, including specific filters and whatnot.

Conclusion: It's okay if you're slow and like playing some tetris over making currency or are plain bad when it comes to pricing items. It's worse than most alternatives though. The core issue is that it's best very early in a league (first 3-5 days) when you can convert to exalts or *really* need your first gear upgrades. However, that's also the time when random shititems sell for good money. Can't imagine doing something like this more than a week into a league, gigantic waste of time compared to even just mapping at a reasonable pace.

In general I'd say ~10-15% of my currency is from straight drops, ~10-20% from lucky high tier drops and the remaining amount stems from a mixture of keeping currency in its most effective form at the time (e.g. not keeping chaos as chaos if alterations will go up soon) combined with crafting and pricing rares well. If I really want to make money now I'd farm uberlab or low level delves. Investing into items that you know will rise in price more than exalts (e.g. Might of the Meek / Unnatural Instincts) is also reasonable but can burn you if they rise slower than expected.

Based on experience with friends who are in the "I don't have currency because I don't get many drops"-category they bleed money like hell because they undervalue rares or buy currency/maps as needed and not as investments.

When it comes to selling rares people tend to undervalue obscure combos a bit and can easily lose an exalt here and there, especially when it comes to jewelry. When in doubt, stop for a second when you see multiple high tier rolls even if you're not sure if they're actually a good combination. Pricing something too high and reducing prices (unless you're confident that someone will pay a high amount soon) is also way better than lowballing yourself by accident.

What I mean by "buying currency/maps as investments": Everyone needs things likes alts, divines, annuls or fusings. Every league, at some point. If it's day2 and I don't need my chaos now then I convert most of them to these currencies. If I really need chaos I convert back and boom, more chaos than before. Exalts are usually a safe but not the best investment.

Analogue for maps: If I buy a T10 here and there if I'm in the mood or out of maps I'll lose money because the price of the maps will keep falling (or become so low that I wouldn't bother to sell it). If I buy everything I need quickly even at a high price early on it won't be an issue because I can sell excess drops over the next day or two for an amount close to what I payed initially. The later in the league, the slower prices change in general.

In general though there are loads of great ways of making currency at this point, pick a niche you enjoy and roll with it until you're rich/want to do something else. Lab, delves, (fossil-)crafting, flipping, buying items to annul/mastercraft and resell, bossing (in HC) or just mapping fast and efficiently. You're usually just screwed if you're really inefficient (e.g. by picking up wisdom scrolls) or try to profit from things way past the regular player curve (e.g. bossing in SC two weeks in).