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Duvon
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 28 2018 17:43 Miragee wrote: For a 6 socket craft, lol. I would rather level Vorici to 7 (or was it 6)... Well, a long way to go I guess. Maybe I'll just waste 2000 jeweler's. Thank you anyways.  I always 6 socket my stuff within 150 jews. Why would you need 2000? | ||
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Duvon
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HolydaKing
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Jealous
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On December 29 2018 03:46 HolydaKing wrote: If you're scared socketing will be expensive, you can just 20% quality it (or even 28% with Hillock) and alch it. Then craft quality on it if it has open suffix for even more quality and then spam jewellers. High IQ holy shit. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 28 2018 16:03 -Archangel- wrote: Zana that I meet in the wild often gives me shaped maps and very rarely maps that I have not unlocked. Its not wild Zanas, its the fact that you can refresh Zana's shop stock multiple times per day due to the fact that any time you complete her Atlas objective, she refreshes her stock. Combined with buffed 3->1 recipe and the fact that you get a map every time you reach a new tier, there's really no reason for anyone to get stuck below T10, even if you're unlucky. Just be a little smart about what order you unlock maps and you should pretty smoothly get to T10. Getting "stuck" is completely a thing of the past. Seriously, the #2 SSFSC player did a writeup on reddit where he said he basically just did all maps that came to him and played around with the 3->1 vendoring maps and completed everything up to T10 with zero difficulties. That's basically unheard of in SSF prior to this league, where you had to do maps in a certain order to maximize drop chance for maps that couldn't be 3->1ed. After T10 its a bit of a crapshoot because Zana's shop stock gets diluted with white and yellow maps, but if you're concerned about map sustain, you're going to be running a shaped Atlas after T10 anyway. And Zana does not refresh her inventory every 24h like before (this is how I got to red maps in previous leagues and would get stuck there). She refreshes her shop stock every time you complete her Atlas objective. This means she refreshes a minimum of once per day (as long as you don't fail her daily objective) plus potentially more due to the fact that Atlas objectives can randomly reappear. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Atm I have her daily on a map I don't have. I also got Niko on map I don't have and have no way to get except by mapping on connected maps and hoping for RNG to like me (it hasn't so far). I done same as the SSFHC guy, and I am still stuck and can only do t7/8 I already have unlocked. | ||
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Jealous
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On December 29 2018 05:09 -Archangel- wrote: I didn't notice that refresh happens every time you do her objective. Are you 100% sure about that? Atm I have her daily on a map I don't have. I also got Niko on map I don't have and have no way to get except by mapping on connected maps and hoping for RNG to like me (it hasn't so far). I done same as the SSFHC guy, and I am still stuck and can only do t7/8 I already have unlocked. Not having the specific map for a quest happens to me too (less now that I've started trying to save at least one copy of each map, making chisels out of low level duplicates). However, I don't know how you got so stuck either. This season, I went from T1 to T9 without doing a single repeat map or having to do the 1 chaos change map mod. Still have 2 harbinger orbs, used one horizon orb after T9. By the time I had to repeat a map/use currency, I already had 70/150 on the Atlas. I know it sucks to hear about other people not understanding your issue, I just wanted to show that in my experience idk how you can get stuck either :/ I only focused on expanding atlas until T9, started to intentionally do quest maps after that (including Shaper/Elder stuff). When I did Elder T10 (or something like that), Zana had 5 new T10/11 maps for sale. I think part of it could have been that I started chiseling earlier, like T7/8 to make sure I kept sustaining. I hear some people don't chisel anything lower than red but I wanted to expand atlas as fast as possible, figured this was the best way (also I barely ever buy items so I needed better gear heh). I would sell low level uniques and tri-res items and such for chisels, now I never really go below 100 chisels saved up for later. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
When I say stuck I mean I got some t9 and even t10 unlocked but I used up all those maps and no new ones dropped. Atm I am down to two t8 and rest t7 maps. But now I am going to start shaping all my t5 maps I got to try to solve this issue. | ||
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Duka08
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On December 29 2018 05:09 -Archangel- wrote: I didn't notice that refresh happens every time you do her objective. Are you 100% sure about that? Atm I have her daily on a map I don't have. I also got Niko on map I don't have and have no way to get except by mapping on connected maps and hoping for RNG to like me (it hasn't so far). I done same as the SSFHC guy, and I am still stuck and can only do t7/8 I already have unlocked. Running into Zana randomly in the wild doesn't reset her inventory. Running into her on the map her icon is on always will. And her appearing on a specific map is what resets daily, so even if she's on a map you don't have, she'll shuffle the next day. I've also done no trading this league and I have all but 2 maps completed in white/yellow tiers. It's reds that have gotten more finnicky. I was abusing the shit out of buying from Zana early on, kept me almost bankrupt on Alchs for a long time. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 29 2018 06:28 Duka08 wrote: Running into Zana randomly in the wild doesn't reset her inventory. Running into her on the map her icon is on always will. And her appearing on a specific map is what resets daily, so even if she's on a map you don't have, she'll shuffle the next day. I've also done no trading this league and I have all but 2 maps completed in white/yellow tiers. It's reds that have gotten more finnicky. I was abusing the shit out of buying from Zana early on, kept me almost bankrupt on Alchs for a long time. OK, that makes more sense. Also it is still worse than previously. Your daily was guaranteed. You could even just fast fail the mission and her maps would reset. Not having access to her daily map and waiting until she moves to another map is one day less of maps. Also no guarantee that new map would be good. For example, I could not do Niko daily for days, he kept moving to maps I didn't have. | ||
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Miragee
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On December 28 2018 22:24 -Archangel- wrote: I always 6 socket my stuff within 150 jews. Why would you need 2000? Because my luck hates me. 2000 is obviously an exaggeration but I never hit 6 sockets under 350 jeweler's before. That's why I was pumped when Vorici got implemented. I went lucky with fusings once though and hit a 5L after 3 fusings... On December 29 2018 03:46 HolydaKing wrote: If you're scared socketing will be expensive, you can just 20% quality it (or even 28% with Hillock) and alch it. Then craft quality on it if it has open suffix for even more quality and then spam jewellers. It's a unique but thanks. :D | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
On December 29 2018 06:51 -Archangel- wrote: my experience with maps was bad too. i botched 4 Zana missions(2 with 1 portal that i just forgot about, 1 i didn't have the map, 1 game crash) in the beginning and it was really tough to recover. i was getting t6 to t8 lucky drops and had to run them with half of t3 and couple t4's completed. it felt like a waste+ Show Spoiler +OK, that makes more sense. Also it is still worse than previously. Your daily was guaranteed. You could even just fast fail the mission and her maps would reset. Not having access to her daily map and waiting until she moves to another map is one day less of maps. Also no guarantee that new map would be good. For example, I could not do Niko daily for days, he kept moving to maps I didn't have. ssfbtw. it has gotten better(playing when i can, pushing into red maps at the moment) but from my perspective, for casuals, it feels worse than it was; rng can be crushing. about Niko - while leveling, i tried to have her in my hideout but couldn't invite her(don't know why). so, what happens here is that when your incursion temple is completed you don't get Niko anymore in the wild and she doesn't appear in her daily map either. eventually i figured it out and managed to inv. her in my hideout to start the temple but you know, couple days passed again. Zana map inventory refreshes on opening her map; you don't even need to enter in it. Edit: yea, i meant Alva. Alvas everywhere | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
2 the icd for cyclone thing is wrong, so with cooldown reduction I'd want over 7 apps? I'm still not sure though. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 29 2018 16:21 xM(Z wrote: my experience with maps was bad too. i botched 4 Zana missions(2 with 1 portal that i just forgot about, 1 i didn't have the map, 1 game crash) in the beginning and it was really tough to recover. i was getting t6 to t8 lucky drops and had to run them with half of t3 and couple t4's completed. it felt like a waste+ Show Spoiler + ssfbtw. it has gotten better(playing when i can, pushing into red maps at the moment) but from my perspective, for casuals, it feels worse than it was; rng can be crushing. about Niko - while leveling, i tried to have her in my hideout but couldn't invite her(don't know why). so, what happens here is that when your incursion temple is completed you don't get Niko anymore in the wild and she doesn't appear in her daily map either. eventually i figured it out and managed to inv. her in my hideout to start the temple but you know, couple days passed again. Zana map inventory refreshes on opening her map; you don't even need to enter in it. I recovered a bit yesterday. Shaping lvl 5 maps kind of worked. Also I finally got some higher level maps from a Temple run. But I spend most of the time yesterday running maps I already have. I unlocked 1 or 2 new maps only. Niko is the Delving guy, you probably mean Alva Yea, I noticed yesterday when I finally got a map that Zana daily was on. I went to sell stuff before I finished her mission and her inventory of maps has changed. Managed to get some more t8 to t10 maps from her | ||
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HolydaKing
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
On December 29 2018 16:50 hunts wrote: Making a coc cospri scion, trying to figure out how much attack speed I need. From what I can tell the needing 1/ 2 the icd for cyclone thing is wrong, so with cooldown reduction I'd want over 7 apps? I'm still not sure though. Lockstep mode; server refresh/tick rate is 33 ms. You want your attackspeed to be as close to a multiple of 33ms as possible, coming from above, or being a multiple of that 0 cdr: < 6,06 APS; > 0,165 attacktime 14+ cdr: < 7,57 APS; > 0,132 attacktime. (quick math: cd/tick rate, round up. multiply by tick rate, you have the target attack time) That said, raw damage will in many cases outperform procrate for net dps. And keeping survivability has so far been my biggest challenge, though im on shit gear, having a cospri and lyco will hardly change that. | ||
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Jealous
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 29 2018 23:07 Duvon wrote: Lockstep mode; server refresh/tick rate is 33 ms. You want your attackspeed to be as close to a multiple of 33ms as possible, coming from above, or being a multiple of that 0 cdr: < 6,06 APS; > 0,165 attacktime 14+ cdr: < 7,57 APS; > 0,132 attacktime. (quick math: cd/tick rate, round up. multiply by tick rate, you have the target attack time) That said, raw damage will in many cases outperform procrate for net dps. And keeping survivability has so far been my biggest challenge, though im on shit gear, having a cospri and lyco will hardly change that. I theory crafted a build but not sure how good it is, if anyone wants to take a look. I based it on diabloyd's guide, but wanted to use cooldown reduction, and decided pathfinder might be better than inquisitor for 2nd scion ascendency. https://pastebin.com/gv5TepQ1 | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 29 2018 16:21 xM(Z wrote: about Niko - while leveling, i tried to have her in my hideout but couldn't invite her(don't know why). That was a bug from the first week where the initial A7 Alva quest could bug out and become impossible to complete if you left her zone. Was fixed in the first big patch. On December 30 2018 02:45 Jealous wrote: Can someone give me a basic breakdown of how people generally earn their currency? As in, 80% found while running, 10% from selling uniques, 10% from selling crafted items, something like that. It varies heavily based on how much bank you have to start, what point in the league it is, and whether you're playing HC or SC. First week economy you earn more out of selling shit, but at this point in SC, 99% of stuff is worthless cuz that's how the SC economy works. So either you find something insane and make multi-ex on it, or its not worth your time to sell. EDIT: If you want to make currency in this game, I'd say that the #1 most important thing is to just not waste time. The game has tons of avenues for making currency now (bosses, Syndicate, Delve, Lab, etc.), and really any of them "work". The main thing is that you kind of just have to not waste time doing menial bullshit for irrelevant amounts of currency. Tons of people try to scrounge up currency selling random crap in the range of 1 alch to a couple chaos, and while I'm grateful these people exist because sometimes you're missing a random low tier map or need some shitty unique for something, the amount of time spent selling this crap running back and forth from your hideout is time spent not farming something. Same goes for stuff like chaos recipe. This kind of menial garbage isn't even fun, but people spend so much time not killing monsters for more loot because they think that they'll earn more currency this way way, when really they'd earn more currency killing monsters for more loot (and have a more fun time with the game doing it). I spent the majority of my first league doing a bunch of this kind of dumb shit (e.g. chaos recipe) and finally realized by the end that if only stopped to sell things that were *actually* worth something, I was both making more currency and having more fun because I was actually playing PoE and not hideout loot tetris. | ||
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