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On August 30 2018 00:42 bo1b wrote:
Caustic arrow is absurd in every single way, kinetic blast mechanic with good single target? Sign me up. Full abyss gear with a good bow and as many phys bow + life abyss jewels for 7k+ hp and excellent damage.
Pathfinder vs Champion is what I'm unsure about. Since they're reasonably close in damage I might just go Champion. You lose the increased AoE and the lower virulence disappearance but eh, fortify ftw. 8k+ life should be reasonable with Kaom's as usual.
I'm also trying really hard to make a nice LL Guardian Summoner/Melee hybrid to work but it's all a bit iffy. It should be possible though.
Worst case I'll do either Glad or RF for my 2nd char to dive deeper into the darkest dungeons.
...Gunde? Lag? Are you guys going to be around at all this league? I think Echelon is dead so HC is starting to get a bit lonely at leaguestarts. ;;
On August 29 2018 22:23 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2018 13:48 r.Evo wrote:
Hmmm...
Lightning and Fire Trap got buffed, interesting.
The new minion clusters sound pretty bonkers at a glance, including a passive that gives the scourge bonus to you via the passive tree. There's gotta be bullshit builds just with that one notable, maybe even as a guardian. Guardian summoner in general could be funny.
I hope we can get the gem info before launch, the buff to Caustic Arrow is still insane. Currently 765 dmg/s and 4.8s duration, after the patch 1714.8 dmg/s and 2s duration at lvl 20.
e: Path of building is updated for the passive tree, we won't get the gems and whatnot before the GGPK file is out though - aka prolly a few hours before launch. Unrelated: People on reddit are saying spectre levels in delve will cap at max map level. But I have yet to see a GGG source on it, and the FAQ could easily be interpreted as lvl 100 spectres being possible, does anyone here know what's up?
...which people on reddit? If Spectres cap at 84 then that'd kind of defeat the point of playing them at all. If they cap at 100 then GGG is screwed because stuff like Shaper will be pretty much instakilled. I understood it as them not having a cap apart from gem level as usual.
The main question for summoners is survivability imo, block got gutted pretty hard. Sure you have 9k life or more but your defense is a bit thin unless you manage to get a Guardian to work.
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Occultist bv could be godlike for delves too.
I think pathfinder is far superior to champion, flasks are op. I also think non crit is the way to go for ca. In all honesty pathfinder with mom is really appealing to me.
Rofl just looked at the gems, ca does base 70% more damage than ed and has an inbuilt shotgun effect.
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On August 30 2018 09:30 Haasts wrote:
ZiggyD has a video showcasing a bunch of the new Guardian summoner stuff, HolydaKing. Quite a different vibe to a Necro summoner - curious to see how it does in maps with a bunch of minion speed.
Also, looking for advice from people who've played SSF before - if you're looking to target-farm not-too-rare divination cards for build-specific uniques, is it better to do it while levelling or wait until endgame?
e.g., I could try and farm up The Incantation ~17-27 in A2 Western Forest, ~48-58 in A6 Western Forest or wait until T3 Burial Chambers; ditto A Mother's Parting Gift in A3 Imperial Gardens ~30-40 or A8 High Gardens ~58-whenever.
Holy moly, both of the sentinels are slow af (only compared to other PoE skills ofc). Although the charge kinda helps the Sentinels of Dominance. But I definitely would skip Herald of Purity and the 4 Sentinels of Purity (which require active self killing) and go for the other old summons instead.
Realistically, I'll probably go with SRS instead, they gotta be real strong now with more minion dmg + accuracy and Victario's Charity.
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On August 30 2018 10:04 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2018 00:42 bo1b wrote:
Caustic arrow is absurd in every single way, kinetic blast mechanic with good single target? Sign me up. Full abyss gear with a good bow and as many phys bow + life abyss jewels for 7k+ hp and excellent damage. Pathfinder vs Champion is what I'm unsure about. Since they're reasonably close in damage I might just go Champion. You lose the increased AoE and the lower virulence disappearance but eh, fortify ftw. 8k+ life should be reasonable with Kaom's as usual. I'm also trying really hard to make a nice LL Guardian Summoner/Melee hybrid to work but it's all a bit iffy. It should be possible though. Worst case I'll do either Glad or RF for my 2nd char to dive deeper into the darkest dungeons. ...Gunde? Lag? Are you guys going to be around at all this league? I think Echelon is dead so HC is starting to get a bit lonely at leaguestarts. ;; Show nested quote +On August 29 2018 22:23 Alur wrote:On August 29 2018 13:48 r.Evo wrote:
Hmmm...
Lightning and Fire Trap got buffed, interesting.
The new minion clusters sound pretty bonkers at a glance, including a passive that gives the scourge bonus to you via the passive tree. There's gotta be bullshit builds just with that one notable, maybe even as a guardian. Guardian summoner in general could be funny.
I hope we can get the gem info before launch, the buff to Caustic Arrow is still insane. Currently 765 dmg/s and 4.8s duration, after the patch 1714.8 dmg/s and 2s duration at lvl 20.
e: Path of building is updated for the passive tree, we won't get the gems and whatnot before the GGPK file is out though - aka prolly a few hours before launch. Unrelated: People on reddit are saying spectre levels in delve will cap at max map level. But I have yet to see a GGG source on it, and the FAQ could easily be interpreted as lvl 100 spectres being possible, does anyone here know what's up? ...which people on reddit? If Spectres cap at 84 then that'd kind of defeat the point of playing them at all. If they cap at 100 then GGG is screwed because stuff like Shaper will be pretty much instakilled. I understood it as them not having a cap apart from gem level as usual. The main question for summoners is survivability imo, block got gutted pretty hard. Sure you have 9k life or more but your defense is a bit thin unless you manage to get a Guardian to work.
Random people.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/97dy9e/delve_frequently_asked_questions/e47sq7b/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9au5t9/questions_thread_august_28_2018/e4zm62r/
Only spell block got rekt, but you can still get 50ish as a summoner without crazy investment.
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Croatia7457 Posts
I think I am going to use this Smite, Herald of Purity and Holy Relic and Zombies/Skeletons to level up until my Flame Golems are ready. Seems more fun and better than spamming SRS.
Also that new amulet + a bunch of Stone Golems might be fun for a whacky Golem character. Too bad Holy Relic does not work with that amulet.
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I wonder if you can use Smite + Brutality so that you don't apply EE with it? I think no, since it got an area effect that I can't imagine to not deal lightning dmg. Else it might be a nice dmg boost against tough stuff in a build I created if you apply EE with a fire spell / attack.
edit: It will most probably work, since it works with Lightning Strike and the current Static Strike. That's pretty nice although it adds extra micromanagement. A bit too much if I think about it, you'll need to use it as often as Offerings as Necro I guess.
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Assuming you overcap block, does the shaper mod "Gain x% of block chance as spell block" work for more than the 75%?
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I thought all sources of spell block are now flat increases rather than conversion (except for glad)
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Oh? I haven't read all the patch notes I confess. I knew they nerfed it, just assumed they left shaper affixes in place.
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I wonder if Smite can be used with Generosity? It got the aura tag after all. I'll definitely try that.
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On August 30 2018 10:04 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2018 00:42 bo1b wrote:
Caustic arrow is absurd in every single way, kinetic blast mechanic with good single target? Sign me up. Full abyss gear with a good bow and as many phys bow + life abyss jewels for 7k+ hp and excellent damage. Pathfinder vs Champion is what I'm unsure about. Since they're reasonably close in damage I might just go Champion. You lose the increased AoE and the lower virulence disappearance but eh, fortify ftw. 8k+ life should be reasonable with Kaom's as usual. I'm also trying really hard to make a nice LL Guardian Summoner/Melee hybrid to work but it's all a bit iffy. It should be possible though. Worst case I'll do either Glad or RF for my 2nd char to dive deeper into the darkest dungeons. ...Gunde? Lag? Are you guys going to be around at all this league? I think Echelon is dead so HC is starting to get a bit lonely at leaguestarts. ;; Show nested quote +On August 29 2018 22:23 Alur wrote:On August 29 2018 13:48 r.Evo wrote:
Hmmm...
Lightning and Fire Trap got buffed, interesting.
The new minion clusters sound pretty bonkers at a glance, including a passive that gives the scourge bonus to you via the passive tree. There's gotta be bullshit builds just with that one notable, maybe even as a guardian. Guardian summoner in general could be funny.
I hope we can get the gem info before launch, the buff to Caustic Arrow is still insane. Currently 765 dmg/s and 4.8s duration, after the patch 1714.8 dmg/s and 2s duration at lvl 20.
e: Path of building is updated for the passive tree, we won't get the gems and whatnot before the GGPK file is out though - aka prolly a few hours before launch. Unrelated: People on reddit are saying spectre levels in delve will cap at max map level. But I have yet to see a GGG source on it, and the FAQ could easily be interpreted as lvl 100 spectres being possible, does anyone here know what's up? ...which people on reddit? If Spectres cap at 84 then that'd kind of defeat the point of playing them at all. If they cap at 100 then GGG is screwed because stuff like Shaper will be pretty much instakilled. I understood it as them not having a cap apart from gem level as usual. The main question for summoners is survivability imo, block got gutted pretty hard. Sure you have 9k life or more but your defense is a bit thin unless you manage to get a Guardian to work.
I am indeed going to be here for league start this time, took the day off work.
I was thinking about occultist CA, was watching waggle put something together and it uses the minion notable to help scale the cloud. Seemed interesting. Will actually be playing the full HC league this time around, the SSF was fun for a bit but got burned out with some bad RNG.
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Besides the new skills, the passive tree changes are big boost to summoners, you can get a lot more minion dmg without having to resort to jewels. Arc traps will be weaker but probably still prevalent I think, unless trap throwing speed was completely shafted. I'm going to give skeletons a try.
Might play some of the new chaos bow stuff after.
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On August 31 2018 05:12 LagLovah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2018 10:04 r.Evo wrote:On August 30 2018 00:42 bo1b wrote:
Caustic arrow is absurd in every single way, kinetic blast mechanic with good single target? Sign me up. Full abyss gear with a good bow and as many phys bow + life abyss jewels for 7k+ hp and excellent damage. Pathfinder vs Champion is what I'm unsure about. Since they're reasonably close in damage I might just go Champion. You lose the increased AoE and the lower virulence disappearance but eh, fortify ftw. 8k+ life should be reasonable with Kaom's as usual. I'm also trying really hard to make a nice LL Guardian Summoner/Melee hybrid to work but it's all a bit iffy. It should be possible though. Worst case I'll do either Glad or RF for my 2nd char to dive deeper into the darkest dungeons. ...Gunde? Lag? Are you guys going to be around at all this league? I think Echelon is dead so HC is starting to get a bit lonely at leaguestarts. ;; On August 29 2018 22:23 Alur wrote:On August 29 2018 13:48 r.Evo wrote:
Hmmm...
Lightning and Fire Trap got buffed, interesting.
The new minion clusters sound pretty bonkers at a glance, including a passive that gives the scourge bonus to you via the passive tree. There's gotta be bullshit builds just with that one notable, maybe even as a guardian. Guardian summoner in general could be funny.
I hope we can get the gem info before launch, the buff to Caustic Arrow is still insane. Currently 765 dmg/s and 4.8s duration, after the patch 1714.8 dmg/s and 2s duration at lvl 20.
e: Path of building is updated for the passive tree, we won't get the gems and whatnot before the GGPK file is out though - aka prolly a few hours before launch. Unrelated: People on reddit are saying spectre levels in delve will cap at max map level. But I have yet to see a GGG source on it, and the FAQ could easily be interpreted as lvl 100 spectres being possible, does anyone here know what's up? ...which people on reddit? If Spectres cap at 84 then that'd kind of defeat the point of playing them at all. If they cap at 100 then GGG is screwed because stuff like Shaper will be pretty much instakilled. I understood it as them not having a cap apart from gem level as usual. The main question for summoners is survivability imo, block got gutted pretty hard. Sure you have 9k life or more but your defense is a bit thin unless you manage to get a Guardian to work. I am indeed going to be here for league start this time, took the day off work. I was thinking about occultist CA, was watching waggle put something together and it uses the minion notable to help scale the cloud. Seemed interesting. Will actually be playing the full HC league this time around, the SSF was fun for a bit but got burned out with some bad RNG.
Awesome! I'll be around an hour or two early as usual, we'll see.
Still unsure build wise tbh. CA Pathfinder/some Templar that respecs into LL RF/VD Inquisitor.
CA seems to top out around 400k dps for Pathfinder with just the cloud plus whatever your herald spider of doomfuckdeath does, the item progression would be super smooth though. Porcupine cards, essence for +2 bow gems, 6L done within 24h of the league easily.
...then I look at VD with an easy 100k per ball and am wondering why it's still even a thing.
Bit unsure, judging from Ziggys video the herald minion did like 10x his damage when it comes to singletarget, so all in all it might be insanely good. =P
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Croatia7457 Posts
That new Static Strike looks fracking sweet. Now I am really considering switching my league starter for a Static Strike Trickster with Touch of Anguish and a stat stick (if skill will not be using both hands to attack) or a shield.
I would use abyss body armor and stack flat elemental jewels. Skill has base damage of 145% so that works well with flat damage. That armor lets me use any element and get same amount of pen which would make buying those jewels a much easier practice. Also good with MoM. Wrath in Essence Worm, acrobatics and phase acrobatics. Maybe even that new amulet (Aul's Uprising) that gives free Wrath and then Anger in Essence Worm.
But I would need a PoB update with new Static Strike updated before I can be sure the numbers would let me access end game.
EDIT: seems wording on Static Strike skill gem does not specify main hand so it probably uses both.
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Well, the new Static Strike will be OP like many things are if you add in Inpulsa (gotta be completely insane for clearing, especially fun with Mjölner), but still good otherwise. Except for killing bosses without great gear I suppose, since it's not possible to use stat sticks with it.
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On August 31 2018 16:38 Alur wrote:![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/y48ntTW.jpg)
Thanks for digging deeper (ha), that's... an interesting answer.
So basically increases in difficulty past lvl84 are done via something that's not straight up monster/zone level. Kinda curious what exactly it's going to be.
Regarding Smite btw I think some good old Scion Elementalist/Slayer could be super decent.
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I wonder if delve spectres will inherit the difficulty increases past lvl84, like if the game technically just makes a new monster category for each additional depth, so that it would carry over. Or if it's a map style modifier that your spectres would lose upon being re summoned.
It's most likely the second option so that spectre builds can't completely trivialize existing game content with insane spectres.
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Super dumb idea time, someone talk me out of this/help me refine this.
Now that we have a whole bunch of minion damage on the tree as well as minion damage applies to you (as global damage)...
What if I combine attacks, spells, and minions into one single build?
Ele Hit in a frostferno, VD/unearth/spirit offering in poet's pens, and 6L spectres in a chest, while running necromancer?
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